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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Moray (Elginshire) => Topic started by: PrueM on Saturday 10 May 08 03:01 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
This baptism from 1732 has a placename that I can't decipher. To me it looks like "Steellbow" or "St Eelbow" ??? I can't find anything like it in the GENUKI Gazetteer, so wondered if anyone could suggest something?
Thanks!
Prue
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Looks like St. Hallbon or Haldbon. Not sure of the middle bit but the bit that looks like to small case g's. Could be an H. If you look at the other capital H's this seems to be similar.
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Hi Prue
It certainly looks like Steellbow to me, if you compare the letters with the others with the others on the page. I can't find it on any of the maps though. have you tried
http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/
Gadget
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Thanks both for the extra pairs of eyes :o :)
I've searched on the suggested names and not found anything, and have just spent an hour poring over the old maps in Gadget's link, and have now gone crosseyed ::) I certainly can't see anything that looks the remotest bit like "Steellbow" or "St Hallbon" etc.
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Prue
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It looks like Steellbow to me too - though the 'e's are very tall ...
My searches turned up the following - irrelevant, I'm sure, but sort of interesting.
Steelbow: "A condition of land-tenancy whereby a landlord provided the tenant with stock, growing grain, straw and implements under contract that the equivalent in quality and quantity should be returned at the end of the lease"
The above from the online Dictionary of the Scots Language.
JAP
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Thanks for that JAP. I wonder if the mysterious Steellbow was a place such as is described in that dictionary entry, and was also known locally by that name? It certainly doesn't seem to be an 'officially' recognised place name.
Thank you all for your help :)
Prue
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That's really interesting, JAP. Just wondering if there was something going on with leasehold agreements at that time and it was inserted for a reason.
I passed by at a distance on the A9 today, Prue, and thought of you.
Gadget :)
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Just a suggestion as to the name. If you go to
www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Boharm/indexhtml
and click on 'Names, Geographical' you'll see that there is a place/farm in Boharm Parish called STARRYHOW.
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Hi Gadget :D
Thanks for the thoughts - I hope they were good! ;) ;D I have to say I was feeling a bit wistful yesterday while looking at all those old maps, having visited the area last year - I was recognising all the place names and remembering how lovely it was in that neck of the woods... :D
Hello Isles :)
That is certainly an interesting possibility - I will have to look into that further :D
Thank you all :D
Prue
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Hi Prue,
Just saw this and wondered what your interest was... Hugh Calder and Margaret Moir are my ancestors. Are you likewise a descendant?
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It looks like Starryhow which is at 57:34:02N 3:03:57W and can be found on http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch I dont think there is a building there now although I know the nearest places on the map, Knowhead and Soundmoor have modern houses there but I don't even think there is a ruin where Starryhow was.
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thank you, lasochd :) I don't think it says "Starryhow" but you never know with this old writing ;) I never remember to look at the NLS maps site, so thank you for providing the link and reminding me of it!
Hi GDub71 :)
My husband (along with hundreds of others if you search the web!) is descended from this couple, through their descendants the Strathdees, who come into the picture about a century later.
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Hi Prue M,
I'd like to see the connection to the Strathdee family as my wife is descended from Strathdees and I've already done a great deal of reaearch on that family, which as you say were prolific child producers. Also, which of Hugh's children is your husband descended from?
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Hi GDub :)
If you go to my profile, you can click on the link to my family tree website, and view the whole kit and caboodle there ;) :D
I'd be really pleased if you could let me know if I have anything incorrect, or if you can add to the info I have (which is fairly sparse that far back).
Cheers
Prue
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Hugh Calder and Margaret Moir seem to have had a largish family, according to the IGI. Have you looked at other baptisms to see where the rest of them were born?