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Hi,
I am seeking any details with regards some of my ancestors who appear to be absent from the census.
I am seeking a Charles Cursey and his family.
Charles was the son of James Cursey b Essex and Eliza Cooke
Charles b 1853 Thundersley Essex d 1932 Maidstone, Kent.
He married Mary Tookey 1853 Thundersley
They had
Charley "Toskey" b 1876 Thundersley
Ester b 1879 Cliffe Kent
Joseph b 1881 " "
Albert b 1883 " "
Agnes b 1885 " "
Arthur b 1886 " "
Mary b 1889 " "
I have tried all manner of spelling and variation I can think off in relation to Cursey or Kersey etc, but I cannot locate any reference to this family who I know are my ancestors.
Can you locate them anywhere please?
BFN
PeterY
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Hello Peter
You don't specify which census - but here they are in 1891:
RG12.. P. 652 Fol 43 Pg. 39
Living 29 Turner Road, Cliffe, Kent
KEARSEY
Charles Head M 38 Cement Labourer B. Essex Thundersley
Mary E Wife M 37 B. Essex, Landon Hills (?)
Esther Dau 12 Scholar
Albert H Son 8 ~
Arthur W Son 5 ~
Mary A Dau 2
Children all born Cliffe, Kent
same building, different household:
KEARSEY
Sarah Head M 43 B. Essex, Orsett
Edward C Son 5 B. Kent, Westham
Edith L Dau 1 ~ ~
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In 1871 Charles is living in Thundersley with Parents James B Kersey given as born in "Fingrinhoe" Essex in c 1821,and his wife Eliza given as born in Thundersley in c 1824.RG10/1667/62/11.
Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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In 1881 : RG11. P. 880 Fol. 41 Pg. 32
Living 2 Mill House, Cliffe, Kent
KEARSEY
Charles Head M 28 Cement Labourer B. Essex Thundersley
Mary E Wife M 27 ~
Charles Tookey Son 5 ~
Joseph Benjamin Son 2 B. Kent, Cliffe
Walter Robert ( # ) Un 19 Chalk Lab. B. Essex Thundersley
(#) not sure whether this is boarder or brother - possibly one over the other ?
Esther aged 2 is living in Essex with her grand Kearsey grandparents.
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I have found the following.
First the surname I have found is spelled Kearsey.
Charles Kearsey married Mary Elizabeth Tookey in Dec 1874.
in the 1881 census
2 Mill house, Cliffe, North Aylesford, Kent, England
Charles Kearsey born Thundersley 1853 cement laborer
Mary Elizabeth Kearsey born Thundersley 1854
Charles Toskey Kearsey born Thundersley 1876
Joesph Benjamin Kearsey born Cliffe, Kent 1879
Also lodging there is what I presume is Charles Brother
Walter Robert Kearsy born Thundersley 1862 chalk laborer
in the 1891 census
29 Turner Road, Cliffe, North Ayleford, Kent, England
Charles b1853 cement Laborer
Mary E b 1854
Albert H b 1883
Arthur W b 1886
Esther b 1879
Mary A b 1889
and in the 1901 census
29 Turner Road, Cliffe, North Ayleford, Kent, England
Charles b1853 cement laborer
Mary b1854
esther b 1879
Arthur b1886
Mary b 1889
Agnes b1895
Hope that was of help, there were quite a few other Kearseys living in the same area at the same time as Charles and Elizabeth. Let me know if you need any more help
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Just to fill out the 1901:
Charles Head M 48 Cement Labourer B. Essex Thundesley
Mary Wife M 47 ~ ~
Esther Dau 22 B. Kent, Cliffe
Arthur Son 15 Cement Labourer ~
Mary dau 12 ~
Agnes Dau 6 ~
Catherine Marshall (?) Vis 7 B. Essex Thundersley
Next door, at 30 Turner Rd.
Joseph B Kearsey Head M 20 Gen Lan B. Kent, Cliffe
Alice E Kearsey Wife M 18 B. Kent, Beckenham
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My thanks to all.
MAY I FIRST APOLOGISE, BUT I WAS CALLED AWAY FOR A FEW DAYS UNEXPECTEDLY.
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Sorry,
In my haste to apologize for disappearing I pressed the wrong key.
I Just wanted to say I was called away unexpectedly and will have to be away again next week.
May thanks for all infomation given. This has proved the people did actually exist and now I can prove a link between my self and another family tree forager.
I have to say that this site has to be the best on the net for infomation given by superb searchers who faultlessly seek out what others can not.
Many thanks again.
BFN
PeterY
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Saturday and still sleepy, but in 1881 I found
James Kearsey 1846 Orsett Cement Mixer m Sarah 1846 Orsett
I wonder in 1901 James had died and Sarah was the Sarah and children living with Charles.
BFN
PeterY
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I may not be able to help much but am researching the family of a friend: her great great grandfather was James B Kersey, father of your Charles Kersey...her great grandfather stayed in the areas and became a greengrocer and fishmonger living in West Ham ..RgdsSuse
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Hi
Joolsbaar:- I have Charles and Mary as Marrying on 13 Oct 1874. You say Dec. Mine came from a family chart, but I am worried now it might be wrong. Where did you get your info from?
Suse:- I have James Bengamin K(C)earsy being born 15/01/1881 son of Charles and Mary Tookey. You said James B was Charles father. Did you mean that? There are so many James.
Charles father was James Kearsey married to Mary Wood
Charles brother was also James M to Eliza Cooke
Does this help?
PeterY
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hello peter
The marriage info - I found the marriage on freebmd.org.uk - it has the marriage dated in the quarter of Dec 1874 (Dec, Jan or Feb), the only way to be really sure is to order the certificate - the details are Dec 1874 in the district of Rochford index number 4a 381.
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Hi
Thanks Joolesbaar
The Dec Qtr includes Oct, Nov, Dec so 13th Oct would come under that, but I did not know it was in the Rochford district so that help.
Many thank
PeterY
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Now have dome more research (and info provided to me) James benjamin Kersey (but spelt different ways) m to Elizabeth (Eliza) Cook, his father being James Kearsey a farmer (b. 1796) m to Mary Wood (b.c.1800) his father in turn Thomas (now spelt) Casey b. 1760 m to ann Smith b. 1760 Essex.
Suse
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MUM 44
Happy New year
Sorry to be absent (Health problems)
Walter Robert Keasey was listed as a boarder to Charles and Mary in 1881 cencus
Hope this helps
BFN
PeterY
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Suse
Happy new year. Apologies as previous
Yes I have James B Kearsey and Eliza in the 1881 census.
Dwelling: The Common
Census Place: Thundersley, Essex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341426 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1768 Folio 59 Page 5
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James B. KEARSEY M 62 M Fingringhoe, Essex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Ag Lab
Eliza KEARSEY M 58 F Thundersley, Essex, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Ag Lab Wife
Herbert J. KEARSEY 12 M Thundersley, Essex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Ag Lab
Esther KEARSEY 2 F Cliff, Kent, England
Rel: G Daur
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Hi I am very glad to see so much interest in the Kersey/Kearsey family. I am a descendant of Joseph William Kearsey, son of James Benjamin. My research spans almost 40 years, it wasn't easy in the past.
However, if you are still looking I have a wealth of information on these familys. For instance, three sons of James Benjamin married three Tookey sisters and subsequently moved from Thundersley to Cliffe in Kent.
I have a Thundersley wedding group photo that probably dates 1874, the first Kersey/Tookey marriage. All three couples and others are there.
This seemed to re-inforce the Cliffe side and for some reason a rift set in between the children of James Benjamin, so much that some deliberately spelt their name different.
When the West Ham side visited the Cliffe side they hid.
Kersey might not be the original name, it might be Casey, from Fingrinhoe.
If you have any queries please ask
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Hi
You caught me out a bit as I have had so many enquires relating to my tree as it is 11500 individuals strong and I had to think of who the Kearsey were.
Now my mother used to say they were spelt Cursey and another said this, but I have also been informed the name changed quite a bit in spelling as well as actual name.
My mother's brother was William Arnold Francis b 1829 Mountain Ash, South Wales and he married Winifred Agnes Cursey b 1905 West Ham Died 1980 Romford. She was dau of Arthur Curseyb 1886 Cliffe, Kent and Ann Gilmore b 1878 Great Warely, Essex.
Arthur was son of Charles Cursey and Mary Tookey both of Thundersley.
By the sound of it the photo is of their wedding and if possible I would love a copy and if you can supply one you could send it to (*) if it would be better for you.
I can supply a gedcom of my tree if you want or you can see in on Ancestry.co.uk or GenesReunited.co.uk which I find a fantastic site.
Please let me know.
I am always willing to share whatever I have which is mostly data with anyone though I am trying to collate and include a load of photos related to my tree. The trouble with a large tree is I am getting lots of people contacting me wanting to know info and how I relate to them. The later can be a nightmare to work of with second marriages etc involved.
I will contact you again soon.
BFN
PeterY
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Hi,
I just realised that Mary Elizabeth is the only Tookey family member I have. I thought I had others , but can't seem to locate them.
Never mind, the weekend is here and more time to look.
BFN
PeterY
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Hello Peter,
My mother's maiden name is Brown, Her mother's maiden name was Kearsey. Her Grandfathers names was Walter Kearsey, who's family home was Cliffe in Kent.... We have looked for Kearsey's from the Cliffe area. We know that 3 Kearsey brothers married 3 Tookey sisters and there is in the current family a tree that represents this .... My mother tells me that there was a sister that was adopted and brought up by a cousin and belives she married and lived in Wales ... We will find out more but look forward to hearing back from you as there is a strong possiblity that we are related in some way :o) ...
Stuart
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Hi,
Charles Cursey(kearsy)b 1853 m Mary Elizabeth Tookey b 1853
They lived in Cliffe Kent,
One of their sons was Arthur William b 1886 M Ann Gilmore 1878
Their Daughter was Winifred Anne Cursey 1905 m William Arnold Francis b 1899
They lived in Wales and were my Aunt and Uncle
Hope this helps
PeterY
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Hello Peter,
We are trying to work out which Kearsey/Tookey branch we are connected with. I will investigate more with my mother and Aunt. Hopefully we should be able to complete your family tree but the key figures in it are the 3 kearsey brothers who married the 3 tookey sisters... i will get back to you as soon as i can ...
note: My mother's name is Kearsey- Brown ( Brown from her fathers side and Kearsey from her mothers side ) ... It is her mothers side that i will trace back to the Tookey name when it becameconnected with Kearsey.
Take care,
Stuart
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Does anyone know who the parents were of Thomas (now spelt) Casey b. 1760 m to Ann Smith b. 1760 Essex.
I have found a record for him and it has his parents Thomas Caseye and Ann.
Ann died in 1751 according to Thorpe-le-Soken parish records.
Val Newman ------ Researching on behalf of Michael Kearsey