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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: itwoznotme on Monday 05 May 08 19:31 BST (UK)
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I was recently searching archives online "National Archives" came accross a Surname of interest, but would like know how to go further with this, took a visit to Kew and got an Image of the Document as attached, which was a Pedigree Chart, various family members of the 1930's. the Main name of Interest which decends lines of my family is
William Schmalcalder, but from this document it looks as if he Changed it to James Clark,
this is were I am Stumped any Suggestions
very best steve
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It looks like James dying intestate divided the remaining members of the family and caused a court case between James' surviving sister Elizabeth Clark plus her niece Lucy Corgan with James' great nieces Elizabeth Eleanor Binnie and Lucy Lilian Wade, with their other sister Winifred Emma Birchall playing no part. Since Elizabeth and Lucy are the defendents the first thing might be to check whether they took out an administration on the estate. If so you will be able to narrow down which precisely was James death registration in the September quarter of 1931 and thus where he died and the addresses of Elizabeth and Lucy which might help you with deciding which local newspaper may have covered the case (The Times doesn't seem to have, probably not important enough but you might be lucky with a local newspaper). To assess whether a newspaper would have been interested enough you really need to know the size of James' estate. An administration would give you an indication. Unless the estate was of an interesting enough size no newspaper is really going to be interested enough to cover the case.
The will and adminsitration index is held at High Holborn or you could ask for a search. It is also on microfiche (up to 1946) at The National Archives.Order from the address given on this website.
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/index.htm
Tracking through newspapers if the case was covered will be easier than trying to pin down court papers but nevertheless Her Majesty's Court Services (website address as for probate) might be able to advise.
Regards
Valda
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thanks for your time to reply......
I have tried looking for James Clark death details on findyourpast.com
but to no avail. He was born in the Strand in 1857 as William Schmalcalder
I can find him on the 1861 & 1871 Census but after that he disapears until 1892, he appears on a Death Certificate and gives an address as 4 Kemble Street, Strand, this is were the Reynolds live as for the Clark Family they live at 4 Alma road, Enfield
As for a Big Estate I am not to sure but his Grandad was famous Mathmatical Instrument Maker who invented the Prismatic Compass, most of the Family lived in the area of the Strand.
Would he have died named Clark or Schmalcalder?
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There is nothing in the English and Welsh registration for someone with the surname Schmalcalder for the very specific quarter and year the chart gives so I would say his death is registered as Clark. There are a couple it could be since whoever registers the death may not be able to give an exact age.
You have the Thanet death aged 72 and the Islington death aged 76. If there was an administration you would get further details particularly the names and addresses of those administering the estate and the exact date of death of the person.
What was his occupation?
Regards
Valda
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I have nothing to really say of his occupation the last bit of information I have about him is the 1871 Census under William Smechelder and he was listed as a Scholar there address was St Martins Lane, later there was an address of 4 Kemble Street.
I have Scanned the outside of the Document it has Various Stamps, Dates, I believe one say's Chancery Division theres an address at the bottom which I cannot make out
Appreciate all your efforts
Stephen
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Can't quite make out the name, presumably of the lawyers, but the rest of it is:
7 New Square
Lincoln's Inn
WC2
http://www.online-law.co.uk/bar/lincolns/history/new_square.html
dilly
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Its:
Cliftons
According to the 1938 telephone book - Solicitors, Commissioners
7 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, WC2 - Tel: CHAncery 8891
dilly
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There is a probate notice in the London Gazette 23 June 1933 for James CLARK late of 97 Pembroke Street, Islington who died 11 Aug 1931 (letters of administration granted to Emily REYNOLDS, Elizabeth CLARK and Lucy CORUM etc.).
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London
http://www.historicaldirectories.org shows James CLARK & Co. (scrap iron dealer) at 97 Pembroke Street 1915
Casalguidi :)
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thank you for all your time and efforts greatly appreciated might be able to track back to previous cenuses for James Clark
cheers Steve
Any more info welcome
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Hello to all,
Looking at previous post I think Valda was right and that James Clark Died as this in Islington' great response from Dillybert and many thanks to casalguidi for the London Gazette....
still a bit of a mystery about were he was between 1891 to 1901 reguarding Census Information also now we have found out there was a probate order on his estate were would I get the outcome?
many thanks again
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The will and adminsitration index is held at High Holborn or you could ask for a search. It is also on microfiche (up to 1946) at The National Archives. Order from the address given on this website.
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/index.htm
You might want to check whether there were any further administrations taken out after the initial one in 1931. However other than the addresses of the three people who took out the administration (and their relationship to the deceased which you already know) and the estimated size of the estate, the administration is unlikely to tell you much more than you already know.
The outcome of any court case that followed will be more difficult to track but as I said if the estate was sizeable enough the local Islington (I think Gazette) may have followed it.
Regards
Valda