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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: J.D. on Sunday 04 May 08 20:17 BST (UK)
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I have only just come across the Heaton Park prefab topic.
I remember as a young lad, about 1956 staying with my grandparents in one of the prefabs.
Would anyone remember my grandparents Jack and Nellie Tilley.
Regards
J.D.
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Hooray, a Part Two to the thread! Welcome JD :D
What we need I think, is to wave frantically to Emmsthheight, who has the 1950s directory. ;D ;D I've sent her a message to that effect.
I too was a visiting grandchild, not a full time resident, so never knew any neighbours names.
:) Barbara
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hi
I've got my book but of course I don't know the names of the streets in Heaton Park prefabs!
I've looked up Tilley though and come up with three Johns. Not Jack, but John automatically became Jack in our family when you went to Lancashire, even though officially recorded as John.
See what you think!
Tilley, Jn, 151 Thompson Rd, 18
,, , Jn E, 14 Richmond Rd East, 12
,, , Jn W, 12 Pridmouth Rd 20, Didsbury 5692.
What do you think? I'm not sure which area it would be under.
If someone gives me some road names, I can give you some neighbours names.
Have a nice Bank Hol.
I'm off back in the sun, but I'll look again later.
Best wishes!
Emms
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Cheers Emms!
I don't know how to link the original thread to this one ??? (there was an A-Z page there) but the street names were:
at the Bury Old Rd end
Kirkmere Drive, Thirlmere Dr, Broadmere Dr, Whitemere Dr, Stanmere Dr
and at the Middleton Rd/Sheepfoot Lane end
Glazebrook Ave, Perrivale Ave, Reedsham Ave, Thornham (I think) Ave, Buttermere Drive, Barnham Close, Wyndham Ave
I think this would be Manchester 8 or 9? 18 and 12 are Gorton and Longsight, further to the south.
Enjoy the sun!
Barbara
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Hi Emms
You are right his name was John, John Edward Tilley.
14 Richmond Road East is actually 14 Richmond Grove East this is were I was born 1947!
How did you come across this address.
I think my grandparents may have moved to Heaton Park about 1960.
John Tilley was my grans 2nd husband, married 1930, her 1st husband was my grandfather who she married 1919.
I am trying to locate his grave, I went to his funeral, I think I was about 10 at the time. I cannot remember the cemetery.
I am sure it was up Oldham Rd towards Duckinfield.
Regards
J.D.
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Could be Phillips Park or Gorton Cemetery? Gorton cemetery would be on the way to Dukinfield.
Manchester burial records website is down at the moment - we are in a Rootschat thread about that as well! When its working, you can find it here http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/
And when its working ::) it has generally been OK for finding names in Phillips Park and Gorton.
:) Barbara
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Hi Barbara
Thank you for the pm and also the list of streets.
I'll check them against the directory, and if anyone would like a look up leyt me know. By the way, it's listed by trades as well as surnames and street names, anbd some entries aren'ty in all of them. So if you knopw the trade or have an idea, give me that too.
By the way, it covers all of Manchester, Salford and Eccles.
Best wishes
Emms.
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Hi JD
Thank you for the feed back. It makes it much more interesting doing lookups, and easier to help.
I'm glad I found an entry of interest although it doesn't actually answer your question!
I got the address from my 1953/34 Kelly's directory as decribed above. So actually it woukld be too early if they only moved there in the 1960's.
If I can look anything else up for you or anyone else do let me know.
Welcome to Rootschat!
Emms
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Hi
Just a little PS!
I'll photograph the streets in Heaton Park prefabs you,ve given me, and if anyone would like a pm of a street, do let me know. PM me. It's actually easier by email if you're happy with that.
You can always have a spare address just for things like this, to protect your personal one, if you'd rather.
If anyone would like any look ups for anyone in the area at that date you're very welcome. Just post them. It's interesting for others to see and they may help too.
Be a bit careful though if you think the person may still be alive, then just pm me. You can always post a general question about the area/ trade/ church or records etc if you'd like input from other Rootschatters, too.
Best wishes to all.
Emms.
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Hi all.
Thank you for the list of streets in the Prefabs.
I hate to tell you: Kelly's have completely ignored the prefabsa as far as I can see.
What a sell!
Well, Im sorry about the let down folks. It's a bit late to take it up with them 60 years on!
This a huge tome with over 2000 92 X 10" or so pages, so it's not just the biggest or most well known!
If anyone had a query about else where feel free to ask - start a separate topic, though.
best wishes
Emms
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It's a bit late to take it up with them 60 years on!
Oh I don't know.. just to be awkward! ;D ;D ;D
I wonder - if the prefabs were council housing, and temporary at that, the directories might not have bothered with them as the occupants were 'only' tenants passing through. Grr!
:) Barbara
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Hi
The only other thing I can think of is that many streets changed their names. I won't have any info on events after 1953, and I suspect some of thos aremissing.
Good hunting!
Emms
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Hi to all you Prefabers,
I too visited my relations on one of the estates, but have no record of which one.
Their names were Eddie and May Doran.
I found this topic whilst searching for an address for my Father in 1931.
It was stated as 9, Eighth Avenue, Heaton Park.
On searching the Electoral Register,
I found it listed as Heaton Park, Eighth Ave.
I cannot find where this was. Any clues ??
Also some Prefabs of this type still exist in Altrincham, on Ellesmere Road and Urban Road. These have been modernized and reclad in brick.
Regards to all Mike :-*
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Welcome to the thread Mike! :D :D
This is the second Heaton Park Prefabs thread, if you look for the other one here on the Lancashire board (it has slipped down to page 2 now, last posting was on April 13), you will find an A-Z page showing the prefab streets in the late 1950s that Bill aka 'MrBothered' very kindly posted. I can't see an Eigth Avenue on there, can anyone else?
The prefabs, as I understand, were not built until the mid to late 1940s, so I think Eighth Avenue must have been somewhiere else in or around Heaton Park.
Maps out, rootschatters! Who can find Eighth Avenue first? ;D
Barbara
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I used to live in Trafford Park and I think there was an Eighth Avenue there. I lived in Second Avenue.
Don't know if this is of any help.
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Hi Orinoco and Mike, All I managed to find last night was a Eighth Avenue in Oldham district, very near to Hollinwood Cemetery. Neither Trafford Park nor Hollinwood are close to Heaton Park ??? and when I googled Eighth Avenue, Heaton Park, I ended up in Newcastle on Tyne!
Here's a possibility though, there is or was a Heaton Cemetery in Bolton, near Queens Park. I have a 1970s A-Z that shows 1st Avenue, 2nd Ave and so on up to Sixth Avenue which is still there. I wonder if it was there but numbers seven and eight have been knocked down?
Go on google maps or similar and search 6th Avenue, Bolton BL1, see what you think?
:) Barbara
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Hi, Barbara and all Heaton Prefabbers.
I'm not sure what to make of this. Maybe you prefab experts can tell me!
Were there prefabs at Trafford Park too?
I've just looked in my Kelly's 1953/54 and for eighth Avenue it says "See Trafford Park".
I've never come across a reference like this in the book before.
When I looked at Trafford Park, there are loads of tiny streets listed, many with names which are basically a number, almost New York Style! Many are only twenty houses say.
I'll write up some more details but it might be tomorrow at this rate. I can digi-photo those couple of pages or so for anyone who would like, but easier by email.
Any specific requests, feel free.
Best wishes
Emms
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PS
Heading is Trafford Park(17).
Trafford Road, Old Trafford.
(Letters should be addressed Trafford Park, Manchester)
Oh, by the way, my mistake, it's Eighth Street, not Avenue.
Reading this, it looks like a system where the Streets run across the Avenues. There are twelve Streets that I can see, but I can only see Avenues up to four.
Good luck!
Emms
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Hi all Heaton Park "Prefabers"
Put your search engines and brains into neutral.
I have found my Eighth Ave, Heaton Park.
It was in the "White Rose Camp" near Middleton Road and Sheepfoot Lane junction, on or near the site of the prefabs. I have it on a map from 1932. It is als listed as "The Huttings" on the map.
Thank you all for your help, I am now going to start a new thread for "The White Rose Camp"
Regards Mike. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Put your search engines and brains into neutral.
Mine's been in reverse today ;D
Looking forward to the new thread! Well done Mike
Barbara
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Hi all,
in my last post i made reference to "the White Rose Camp".
As you ALL !! know i meant " The White Heather Camp"
I hope that i have beaten you to the correction.
Regards Mike.
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I have just found this site by accident so it might be obsolete by nowI too was born in the prefabs on Erlmere Dr .I lived there until I was 13 in 1962.I too planted those plants at Grand lodge.I believe Prince Phillip was there and a photo was in the newspaper.I went to school at Parkside with Miss Walton as headmistress.It's a shame we didn't appreciate it at the time having Heaton park as our playground.We moved to Riverdale Rd in Blackley.I remember some of the names mentioned in the chats.Yes the prefabs were very modern in their structure,especially on the inside.We used to have a huge bonfire in the field on Erlmere dr every Nov 5th.My mother worked at Nellie and Herman's shop in the evenings.
The lake was originally a Racetrack for horses when the park was privately owned by Lord Heaton or whatever his name was.The paddling pool had a little beach with it.The old school was by St Margarets.
My brother Ian went there for a year or two ,then to Parkside which opened in 1952.I went there in 1953.
then to Cheetham Secondary. Jean
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Welcome to Rootschat Jean :D
There is another Prefab thread that has carried on running - I forgot about this one! Link to the longer thread here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,278711.0.html
where you might find some more familiar names. Hope so!
I started the other thread as an appeal for photos of the Heaton Park prefabs, as my mother lived there until she married in 1954 - she also lived on Erlmere Drive as it happens
:) Barbara
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I have just found this site by accident so it might be obsolete by nowI too was born in the prefabs on Erlmere Dr .I lived there until I was 13 in 1962.I too planted those plants at Grand lodge.I believe Prince Phillip was there and a photo was in the newspaper.I went to school at Parkside with Miss Walton as headmistress.It's a shame we didn't appreciate it at the time having Heaton park as our playground.We moved to Riverdale Rd in Blackley.I remember some of the names mentioned in the chats.Yes the prefabs were very modern in their structure,especially on the inside.We used to have a huge bonfire in the field on Erlmere dr every Nov 5th.My mother worked at Nellie and Herman's shop in the evenings.
The lake was originally a Racetrack for horses when the park was privately owned by Lord Heaton or whatever his name was.The paddling pool had a little beach with it.The old school was by St Margarets.
My brother Ian went there for a year or two ,then to Parkside which opened in 1952.I went there in 1953.
then to Cheetham Secondary. Jean
Hi jean. the subject is still live a few people still put their thoughts on the thread.I lived at 5 kirkmere drive from 1948 to 1963 ish.they were being pulled down by then.I also went to parkside cp ( where my mum was a dinner lady) and from there to plant hill sec modern.regards keith hughes.
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first time on this site. Lived at 41 broadmere drive till 1960. Went to Parkside cp school, headmistress Miss Hampson and teachers included mrs Mawdesley, miss Jennings. Names I rememeber, Dewhursts, Fowler, Day, Standerwick, from Broadmere Drive. Also from estate Irene sharples, Brenda thorpe, jonantahan King,Susuan Bell,Lorraine Seddon, to mention a few.
Does anyone know these people? Our name was Makin. Does anyone remember playing in Bluebell Woods, the paddling pool, complete with butties and bottle of water,!!!!! swimming in the lake, but keeping an eye open for the parkkeeper? would love to hear your thoughts.
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Hi welcome to roots chat .I lived on kirkmere drive number 5 and also went to parkside cp school.
I thought the head was a miss Walton? I was in Mr Edwards class.regards keith.
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hi was at parkside cp approx 1949 to 1953. Have photo of last class, teacher Mrs Mawdesley (not on photo) also photos taken in front and back garden of 41 Broadmere, next door called Day who emigrated to Aussie on assisted passage , they were called Pound Pommies!!! Also on drive were Fowlers, Christine Oswald and jean. Few friends and myself did gym displays!!! in back garden, charging a penny, with the money bought some bottles of lemonade. Yes the bonfires were magic, every one rallied round, treacle toffee, baked potatoes, parkin, by the bucket load.
Sure headteacher was miss Hampson, have her autograph and a poem she wrote. Happy days at Parkside cp. Does anyone have any photos? or any other names come to mind. Best wishes.
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Just found out that my mum, dad, sister and brother lived at 65 Broadmere Drive, they were Iris, Valentine, Linda and Brian Kay
Does anyone remember them
Dave Kay
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Hi Old Owl
I lived at number 11 Erlmer Drive, Heaton Park. My name is Sandra Vilosky. I went to Parkside, and I had Mrs Mawdsley as a teacher. She once gave m the strap for not knowing twelve pence made a shilling.
I learned to read in that class; and Mrs Mawdsley sent me to Mr Edwards top class, to read my book to the class.
My best friend in that class, was Pat Hamer. I remember a Marjorie, a Brenda, and a Carol.
What number Erlmere did you live?
Do you remember going on nature walks in the park, and bringing back Conkers, and leaves for the Nature Table?
I remember, The Harvest Festivals, Christmas parties, and the school dinners.
If you would like to chat about those halcyon days.
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Hi Sandra
I lived at 5Kirkmere Dr from 1948 to about 1962 and also went to Parkside school where my mum was a dinner lady. Regards Keith.