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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Diggit on Sunday 04 May 08 12:24 BST (UK)
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Trying to trace what happened to a member of our extended family. His name was George Walter Roche, born 1900 in London. We think he emigrated to N.Z in 1928 because we found a George Walter Roche on the passenger list of the Rimutaka. Don't know how to proceed. Advice appreciated.
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/ Early Shipping
http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action Shipping 1890 +
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ National Archives, Wills +
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast Old NZ Newspapers
http://www.purewa.co.nz/search.asp A large Auckland cemetery
http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/search.php Wellington “
http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/ Christchurch “
http://www.genealogy.org.nz/Sales_11.aspx Society of Genealogists
http://www.familysearch.org/ IGI
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm Free NSW indexes
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Married Laura Winifred Adams in 1930 :)
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many thanks for prompt replies.
Wow! how do i find out more about Laura Winifred Adams. this genealogy thing is addictive!
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Wow! how do i find out more about Laura Winifred Adams.
Hi Diggit
The marriage record for George Walter ROCHE and Laura ADAMS should offer you a good deal of information with which to advance your search.
Details at ~
http://www.bdm.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/
[It is recommended that you purchase a "printout" (rather than a certificate) as this is a less-expensive option and also generally offers more information].
Mk-2 Zephyr has already mentioned that the marriage took place in 1930.
The reference from the NZ Marriage Index is
> George Walter ROCHE m. Laura Winifred ADAMS - 1930 [Folio # 06723] : [Note: This index does not state the place of marriage]:
Good luck with your search.
Lu
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Many thanks Lucy2,
i am following that up now, thanks for the links.
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http://www.bdm.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/
Lucy2
I am afraid i still have L plates on my computer and i am not having much luck with this site.
how do i get into the marriage index?
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the Marriage index we use is a Society of Genealogists CD, which can be bought from them on the SOG link above.
or there are fiche in most local librarys.
There are no online searchable indexes for births, deaths or marriages for NZ records. :(
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Mk 2 Zephyr
thank you for that information - as i said i am very new to this, and thank you for your help.
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Hi Diggit
I see Zephyr has sorted things out for you already.
Sorry, yes ... I should have explained that the web link led to the "details for purchasing certificates or printouts".
Lu
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Thanks again - have sent for printout of marriage cert. Looked at wellington cemeteries online and found details of Laura Winifred Roche but no sign of George Walter so i am now wondering if he either died in WW11 or divorced and moved on again.
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hi everyone.
following the advice you gave me i sent for and received a printout of the marriage details of George Walter Roche and Laura Winifred Adams - this provided the additional information that they were divorced in 1952. Is there any way i can find out if they had any children?
???
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Hi Diggit
The divorce record would / should, contain information on any children of the union. (I don't see a divorce for this couple on the Archives NZ website .... not all records though are listed online .... but they (Archives), do have an in-house register of divorce records).
Unfortunately, NZ death records, only list the "ages of living issue" so obtaining the death certificate for Laura, wouldn't give you a great amount of information about any children.
However, there may have been a funeral notice for her ... my local library has filmed newspapers - I'll check in the next week (might just save you the expense of getting the divorce record. ) ;D
Lu
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Thanks Lucy2 that is very kind of you. The marriage printout is overstamped saying decree absolute - i think it is 4th June 1952 - bit blurred. He seems to have had an 'interesting' life, i have found another wife and 2 children before he went to NZ (but haven't found a divorce!). I have found his NZ wife in Karori cemetery but not him so i am wondering if he returned to UK.
thanks again
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He seems to have had an 'interesting' life, i have found another wife and 2 children before he went to NZ (but haven't found a divorce!).
::) Mmmm .... interesting. ;)
..... so i am wondering if he returned to UK.
Hi Diggit
Unfortunately not really able to search records from this end, for anyone returning to the UK.
It may be (even though his NZ wife is buried in Wellington), that George is buried elsewhere in the country?
Perhaps if you add here, the date and place of his marriage to Laura, it may give us a clue as to where else we could look for a burial for George.
Lu
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Hi Lucy2
What i have found out so far
George Walter Roche born 1900
Married Maud Gertrude Granger 5th Aug 1917 in London - he puts his age as 21 and says he is in the Scottish Engineers (which he may have been for all i know, he wouldn't be alone in lying about his age to join the army)
There were 2 children, Dennis Enrest born 1918 and Marjorie Daphne born 1920.
Then i lose track of him completely until 1928 when he appears on the Rimutaka bound for Wellington and lists his UK address as Turner's Court which was some sort of 'Farm Training Colony' later an Approved School.
He married Laura Winifred Adams 30th Sept 1930 in Wellington Register Office and the marriage printout is overstamped 'This marriage was dissolved by decree absolute 4th june 1952.
I have found that Laura died 11th may1981 and the cremation was at Karori crematorium.
No further sign of George and so far i haven't found out anything further of his 2 UK children.
He was erased from the family history, name never mentioned , we were just told he was a bad lot.
Not one to condemn by rumour i am just trying to find out what happened to him.
all help is much appreciated
thanks
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Hello again Diggit
That's great information you have gathered.
Yes, it seems very possible that as George married in Wellington (and his wife Laura is buried there), then that is where they lived.
I have some information for you regarding Laura .... I'll send it to you via a PM.*
Lu
* This information included mention of persons thought to still be "living".
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" his son Graham makes an appearance" ?
Is he confirmed as a son ? living at same address at some point ?
and this would be same one, cremated Karioi
GRAHAM ROCHE
Age: 69 Years Deceased Date: 14-07-2000
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A good deal of information has been communicated by PM.
Lu
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Well actually, I was just trying to clarify a few things and if it is completed I see no mention of it and also not what was communicated to me last night. :-\
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Oh ???
Then do explain further.
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Hmmm, ???
actually it was Diggit who yesterday sent me a pm asking for help.
and as for clarification there is no confirmation about the topic being completed anywhere.
I asked about Graham, as he suddenly appeared as a son, I guess as you had done some internal pms, YOU had advance knowledge but WE certainly did not.
:)
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Hmmm, ???
actually it was Diggit who last night sent me a pm asking for help.
and as for clarification there is no comfirmation about the topic being completed anywhere.
I asked about Graham, as he suddenly appeared as a son, I guess as you had done some internal pms, YOU had advance knowledge but WE certainly did not.
:)
I did an extensive, thorough and time-consuming search for information regarding this ROCHE family.
Lu
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Lu,
Please send a pm if you have anymore to say to me.
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Wow! George Walter Roche is my Grandfather! My Mother being Daphne (known to all as Babs) Dennis was her brother and there is a younger sister borne in 1922, known to all as Lynn.
George did a runner about 1925.
Maude Gertrude (Queenie)died in 1975 in Barons Court, West London. Dennis is no longer with us and Babs has also passed away. In fact 4 years ago on the 20th of this month.
I would love to hear any information on what he got up to! Sounds like a bit of a rouge.
I have been looking for George for about 10 years.
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Welcome to the board, :)
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Hi.
This is my family also,
Maud ( Queenie was my grandmother)
I am the daughter of Dennis
Grahame is the son of Dennis and Carmel, one of five children.
I would love to know more about George Walter Roche (JR)... all I know of him is that he was born in 1900, and ran away to new zealand later. where he died.
It is just what I was told as a child, but anyinfo would be great.
Thanks