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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: mrsdoicky on Friday 02 May 08 18:01 BST (UK)
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Hi please could anyone please help I am trying to find information on
William Bullock c1816 Married Jane Brown c1816
William was born Wingham,Northumberland,England
Jane was born Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
and also whether William had siblings & who was his parents .
kindest Regards
Alison
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Hi Alison,
I will post this link from the Durham board .. to let others see that William and Jane have been discussed elsewhere.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,302087.0.html
You have the birthplace of William from a census taken in 1851 .. but in 1861 the birthplace is Ryton .. which is in Durham .. ?
I'm afraid I've checked for a place called Wingham and it doesn't appear to exist ..
Just going to check the census information for 1851 .. :)
Kind regards,
Pels
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It does say Northumberland, but I'm not too sure it does in fact say Wingham, although this is the place the index states .. I will copy it out and let you see ..
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Looking at this .. the last letter in fact looks more like a faded 'd' as opposed to the letter 'm' .. ?
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4104/1851oi2.jpg)
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Hi Alison,
I will post this link from the Durham board .. to let others see that William and Jane have been discussed elsewhere.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,302087.0.html
You have the birthplace of William from a census taken in 1851 .. but in 1861 the birthplace is Ryton .. which is in Durham .. ?
I'm afraid I've checked for a place called Wingham and it doesn't appear to exist ..
Just going to check the census information for 1851 .. :)
Kind regards,
Pels
Hi Pels ref your Quote i did post it on the Durham link and got this reply from someone I Quote
Now that have your family born in Northumberland, perhaps you should pose this on the Northumberland board. There are those that look at that board that have records.
Janis
So that is why it is on the northumberland link
Kindest regards Alison
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That's fine Alison .. I'm so sorry, I wasn't being critical of where it had been posted .. but sometimes it helps to give people as much information as possible.
Consequently I thought it might help to let other people be aware the birthplace of William wasn't quite so cut and dried as first thought .. :)
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I wonder could it be Ovingham .. :-\
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I've just checked William born c 1816 on the later census returns .. and they state he was born in Ovingham .. :)
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Just to fit it in with the 1851 census that was posted on the Durham board .. :)
1861 census:
RG9/3808, Folio 67, Page 21
Durham, Winlaton
William Bullock, h, mar, 49, Provision Dealer, b. Northumberland, Ovingham
Jane, wife, 49, b. Northumberland, Ovingham
Thos Brown Bullock, son, unm, 18, b. Durham, Ryton
Septimus, son, 14, b. Durham, Ryton
Kind regards,
Pels
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I've had a good look at the page and I'm also sure that it's Ovingham. It would also fit with them living in Ryton on that census. It's not far away :)
Gadget
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Thanks Gadget! :)
The census details are consistant with an approx date of 1812 and all state Ovingham as William's birthplace ..
1871 census:
RG10/5065, Folio 63, Page 7
Durham, Winlaton
William Bullock, h. mar, 59, Provision Dealer, b. Northumberland, Ovingham
Jane, wife, 59, Northumberland, Bywell
Septimus, son, unm, 24, Blacksmith, b. Durham, Ryton
Margaret Grundy, niece, unm, 19, Visitor, b. Durham, Ryton
Pels :)
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It's a nice place - I used to go there often :)
Unfortunately the online records start in 1813 :(
http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Ovingham/ChurchRecords.html
Gadget
added - but griefy moses - look what I've found - a William Bullock, baptised 3 Jan 1813, Ovingham. Parents - William and Elizabeth Bullock
There are two other children showing for this couple
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I wonder if he was their second child named William .. in 1805 there is also this one .. :-\
Birth, 19th September, 1805
Christening, 27 October, 1805 Ovingham, Northumberland
Death, 13th September, 1808
Parents:
William Bullock and Elizabeth Newton
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They appear to have married 10th May 1802 at Ovingham.
Also, did William jnr, marry Jane Brown there on 4th July 1835?
Gadget :)
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It might be a long shot but could these could be the parents of the William who married Elizabeth .. ?
Christening, 26th September 1775
William Bullock
Parents: John and Mary Bullock,
Northumberland, Ovingham.
Pels :)
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I wonder if William and Elizabeth are on the 1841?
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The other Christening is ..
Birth, 1st, March 1809
Christening, 7th, May 1809
Elisabeth Bullock
Parents, William and Elizabeth
Northumberland Ovingham
I wonder if William and Elizabeth are on the 1841?
I'm not too sure, I know wozzle gave the 1841 details for the initial enquiry .. but I would think he included these .. :)
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No - he only gave William and Jane.
I'll take a look :)
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HO107/841 Book 11. Folio 4 Page 1
Hemitage, Ovingham
William Bullock, 60-64, gardener
Elizabeth, 60-64,
both born county
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Brilliant stuff .. !! :D
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We seem to do quite well as a team in Northumberland, Pels :)
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We do appear to .. :D
Now we need a Jane Brown, b. circa 1813 in either Ovingham or Bywell .. ?
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She was still alive in 1881 and her birthplace is .. as Alison first stated Newcastle on Tyne, William at this point had died ..
Three decades and three differing birthplaces! :-\
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Nearest in Ovingham was one in 1822 - I think that might be a bit late.
Gadget
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The Bywell Christenings finish in 1812 ..
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There are quite a few on the IGI for Newcastle/Longbenton, etc. Jane Brown is not that easy without any real clues :-\
If someone could look at that marriage record, it might give her father's name.
Gadget
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Hi Pels & Gadget
Firstly thank you for your Help thats Brilliant :D
My father in-law was wondering where his father got the name James Newton Bullock from and as you mentioned Elizabeth newton it is all fitting into place nicely he will be thrilled.
He lost his dad mum & sister all within a matter of months back in 1950 so he has never been able to find out any infmation about where the family originally came from except that his father came from Northumberland but he didn't know about the Durham connection.
Kindest regards Alison