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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: scoobeuk on Thursday 01 May 08 13:04 BST (UK)
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I wonder if anyone can help. I'm looking for a Uriah GALLEY, born stoke 1878, by 1901 he was calling himself Hugh GALLEY.
I have found a medal card for a Hugh Galley, in the Yorkshire Regiment, marked as dead. I found the same person on the CG site, died in France 06/11/1918.
But, I don't have any information to confirm its "my" Hugh Galley.
The name is v v rare, which makes me suspect its probably him.
I can't find any other record of the death to check the age. I've had a look at the National Archives, but nothing there apart from Medal Card. I've googled and seen one or two PPV sites that seem to have possibly relevant indexes, but I can't find what level of detail they are likely to give me, so I'm a bit loathe to part with my cash just yet......
If anyone could find out how old he was, I'd be very grateful.
Many thanks
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Hi, it is possible that thr Yorkshire Regiment itself will have more details. I take it his service record was one of the ones lost in the WW2 bombing - happened to some fo the service records we were looking for. Most inconsiderate!! Good luck.
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SDGW has him as a Warrant Officer(Sgt Major) in 2nd Yorkshires.
Born stoke on trent,Enlisted Newcastle Under Lyme Resident Stoke on Trent
Formerley in the North Staffs Regiment 5587 which would probably make him a pre war soldier or Territorial.
So sounds promising :D
KIA 6/11/18.
Ady
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Hi
The 1881 Census has Uriah Galley aged 2, described as a grandson of Joseph Beckett and Mary Ann Beckett. Francis Galley is their daughter and appears to be Uriah's mother, also a Maude Galley 14 months.
Have you seen the document?
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If it is the same man he didnt go overseas til after Jan 1916 and he was Mentioned In Dispatches in the London Gazette 22/5/17 page 5061 or 5081
Company Sgt Major H Company.
From Ancestry Medal Cards ;)
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Yes, Ady I think he must be the man as he was born Stoke on Trent according to the 1881 Census and living there at the time of the Census. :)
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This is verification of Ady's entry:
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Many Many thanks to you all, I didn't expect an answer that quick! That extra information you have found confirms it is the same person, which is wonderful.
I do have the 1881/1891/1901 census thank you. It is family mentioned, they are fairly easy to spot as there are so few galley at all.
I will have a look for that mention in despatches.
Thank you once again for taking the time to look at this. Much appreciated.
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Ancestry have not got to the Gs in the 'burnt' documents yet. So you should keep your fingers crossed that it did survive the blitz.
He has two MICs on the NA website. One mentions the MID, and also says that he earned the MSM and TEFM - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6650522&queryType=1&resultcount=13 - but these additional awards are not mentioned on the two MICs on Ancestry. Also, I cannot find him in the MSM roll.
Maybe it was the TFM he was awarded - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp
As the MIC does not mention his previous service with the North Staffs Regiment it may indicate a break in service. If so there is a chance that his record as 5587 is in Kew in either WO97 (for Regulars) or WO96 (for part-time soldiers).
Ken
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I checked ancestry and he isn't on there. However, two of mine whose last names begin with "H" are on there, according to the latest news they are up to names begining with "HOR". I'm assuming that his record was one of the 60% that didn't make it.
Sue
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To KM1971, Thanks for pointing out there are two medal cards on Ancestry, I didn't check just on the initial. I only had the one, I didn't realise there could be more than one.....
I assumed, maybe wrongly, that the medal cards on ancestry, would be the same ones on the NA. Is that not the case? I'm not up on my military records in the least, if they are likely to be different, I'll buy them.
It does look like ancestry have uploaded the burnt records for Galley, and he isn't on there, which is a shame, I would have liked to have known more. Though I will check local newspapers of the time when I visit staffordshire later in the year, see if an obituary was printed somewhere.
I checked gazettes online, I can see him listed a couple of times, but no actual detail.
Thank you so much for your help on this
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He has actually 3 MICs on the NA docs..1 X MID another that maybe a 2nd MID/TFEM or MSM They are under H Galley...His Campaign Medals are under Hugh Galley and are as CSM Yorkshire Regiment.
Its possible that he was a pre war regular or TF soldier who didnt serve overseas with the North Staffs(in WW1) his Campaign Medals are to CSM Galley Yorks Reg and has no 15 Star so he deployed overseas after Jan 1916...As a CSM he may have had prior Service at Home with North Staffs and was sent as casualty Replacement to the Yorks Regiment.
Green Howards(Yorkshire Regiment )Museum is at Richmond.As a CSM with MID he must feature in the Unit War Diary 2nd Batt possibly H Coy.
Hope this helps
Ady
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As Ady has pointed out one man can have three. Usually extra cards are for MIDs, SWBs etc. As Ady has also pointed out contacting the museum would be worthwhile.
Regarding the history of the MICs, I believe that, after they were microfilmed by the NA (PRO as was), the Western Front Association saved them from the skip. They contain about 4.8 million cards compared to about 5.5 million in the NA collection. The WFA did not get cards for women (at the Imperial War Museum), MM winners and cards for the Indian Army.
Ken