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Would anyone be so kind as to see where Alice McVay (sometimes spelt McVey) was in 1861 & 1871. She was born 6th August 1853.
Any info gratefully received.
Thanks for taking the time to read this note.
Groucho
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Hi
I believe this could be a very bad mistransription on the 1871 census
Alice Mackoay 18 boarder living at 53 Great George Street, Preston
with the following people
Joseph Miller 22
Isabella Miler 21
Mary Ellen Miller 9 months old (just had a look at the image)
All born Preston
Was it Alice who married Richard Sherrington in 1874?
Wendy
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes it was the Alice who was married to Richard Sherrington. Quite perceptive of you. Is that the only entry of a similar name?
Groucho
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Hi Groucho
Sorry it wasn't what you expected to see. But she was the only one I could see that had same birth year and birth place.
Maybe someone else will have better luck, unless you have the marriage cert for her and I can maybe look for her father to see if her first naem is down wrong?
Wendy
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Groucho, would you be interested in the McVeigh family, who lived in the Thornton/Poulton le Fylde area in 1861/71? They had a daughter called Alice, though her age was given as six in 1861 and 16 in 1871. This Alice McVeigh was born in Newby Bridge near Leeds, father James.
Steve
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I have just looked at the 1871 image for Alice and it says MACKVAY which I would take to be just a variant spelling. I'm sure that she wouldn't have been responsible for filling in the form (besides she may have been illiterate) being as she was only a lodger so it would have been written just how it sounded.
RG10/4210 folio 36 page 10
Casalguidi
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Thanks to everyone for that flurry of activity.
Stevebooth - Thanks for that but this Alice was definitely born in preston
Casalguidi - I've had a few variants of McVay. Some earlier listings are McVey. The reason I'm after any info is that I believe her father died not long after she was born (can't trace when though - anyone out there? hint hint) So I was wondering if she was living with any relatives, sisters brothers etc. that I don't know about. It is also possible that her mother Jane McVay (McVey, McVeigh.....) may have married again at some point (Caton?)
Just trying to tie up loose ends really.
Thanks for everyones help up to now.
Groucho
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Hi Groucho
We have mothers name now to look for, for you. Do you have father name and then we can have a good old root around.
Wendy
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Hi
I believe Alice McVey was living with Thomas Caton and Jane Caton (formerly McVey, nee Hodson) at 97 Friargate Preston. in 1861. Alice's age is either 1 or 7. By 1871 Thomas and Jane are living at 255 North Road, Preston but Alice is not recorded.
Hope it's of some use.
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Nice one. That sounds like the ticket.
That's great, are there any other children listed at the address in Friargate? Would be most interested for any details listed for the family as a whole.
Thanks so much for that.
Cheers
Groucho
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Hi,
Alice is the only child listed in 1861.
In 1871 as follows:
Isabella age 5
Richard age 2
Ellen age 11 months.
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Thanks for all that, it's been a good help.
Groucho ;)
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Hi Groucho
If Alice's father was William McVey, I think he may have died in 1854. Do you know which Parish he lived in?
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Vac,
That would seem plausible as Alice's mother Jane remarried Thomas Caton in 1859. In August 1853 when Alice McVey was born they lived in Victoria Street, which I think comes under St Peters. Where did you find that? I've tried for ages to find out what happened to him.
Groucho
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Hi Groucho
I've been looking at St Catherines House indexes between 1852 and 1859. 3rd Quarter of 1854 looks promising but need to check it out in P.Reg I'm assuming he died in Preston.
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Vac
Not familiar with that. Where do you access those records? Looks like it could be helpful.
I would presume he died in Preston, he worked in Preston and I don't think there were too many more William McVeys at the time.
Groucho
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Groucho,
Larger reference libraries usually hold copies, alternatively, The Family History Centre at your nearest LDS Church.
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Vac
Thanks for that. Most helpful. ;D
Groucho
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HI Groucho,
William McVey was buried on July 27th 1854 at St Ignatius's Church, Preston. Interestingly, the death certificate was issued by the Coroner.
LRO Ref: St Ignatius B. R. RCPG/10. Microfilm 9/200. Burial No 4190.
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That's fantastic. Thanks for that. I take it if I send for the death certificate it will tell me the cause of death, however, does anyone know what extra the coroners report would supply and would it be published in the local papers by chance?
Grouch
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Hi Groucho
19Century Coroners reports rarely survive. However there is a full report in The Preston Guardian. Headline reads "Disastrous Steam Boat Explosion on the Ribble" "Five lives lost and many injured"
The Steamer named "Victoria" ran aground and the boiler exploded.
The explosion took place on Sunday 23rd and William died the next day.
Verdict was manslaughter.
If you do send for the certificate I would love to know what it says so I can tie up loose ends on my family tree.
Regards vac