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Title: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Wednesday 23 April 08 11:00 BST (UK): Can I ask a BIG favour of anyone who can visit Salisbury Cathedral, Wiltshire?

My 5 x g grandparents, Joseph CORFE and his wife, Mary (nee BERNARD) are apparently interred(?) in a chapel within Salisbury Cathedral, he dying 29/7/1820, and she 9/4/1826. I have the following references F176 and F177, whatever they relate to? Joseph was the organist of the Cathedral 1792 to 1804, when he resigned in favour of his son.

I have a fair bit of information on their history, however, I would dearly love a photograph of their internment/inscription, if possible.

Thanks

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Friday 19 September 08 21:13 BST (UK): I'm going Christmas shopping in Salisbury on November 28th! ;D If you would still like someone to look, I'm happy to do so, if you don't mind waiting.
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Saturday 20 September 08 03:25 BST (UK): Quote from: Bagpuss_Janet on Friday 19 September 08 21:13 BST (UK)
If you would still like someone to look, I'm happy to do so, if you don't mind waiting.

Yes, please! You may be happy to do so, but you wouldn't be as happy as me if you could take some photo's. This request was originally posted 5 months ago, so waiting another 2 months isn't a problem.

As I indicated in the original posting I had two "internment (?) references". I hope they make it easy for you to find, as I don't want you to waste valuable Christmas shopping time ;D

Once again, thanks for you offer - much appreciated.

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Saturday 20 September 08 05:16 BST (UK): Okay - I've marked it on my calendar for a few days before I go so I can come back and check the details before I go. :)
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Tuesday 23 September 08 17:54 BST (UK): Good news! Mum and I decided to go to Salisbury for a mooch round the shops today so I was able to get your pictures.

I'm not sure how interment works so I don't know whether they're actually buried underneath what I found or whether there is some other arrangement, but we managed to find a really helpful Cathedral guide who was able to look them up and take us straight to them. I thought (although I don't know why) that I was looking for a plaque on the wall so I'd have never found them as the inscription stones were on the floor under rows of chairs!

Anyway, it was easy to move the chairs, so voila!

The inscription for Joseph isn't very easy to read, and his name is written as Corve, but the wording shows it's definitely our man. His wife is correctly named as Corfe and her stone is much clearer.

Quote
Sacred to the Memory
of JOSEPH CORVE
Senior Gentleman of
his Majesty's Chapel Royal
and organist of
this Cathedral
He died July 29th 1820
Aged 79 years
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/Family%20Tree/SalisburyCorfesmall2.jpg)
Quote
Sacred to the Memory
of MARY CORFE
Relict of
JOSEPH CORFE
She died 9th April 1826
Aged 84 years
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/Family%20Tree/SalisburyCorfesmall3.jpg)
The organ is not the one your guys will have used, having been replaced in the late 19th century, but there is a plaque on the side which mentions Joseph and his son, Arthur.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/Family%20Tree/SalisburyCorfesmall1.jpg)

I have taken some of the inside and outside of the cathedral, and there are also the pictures I posted above in their original size. You can view my album here...

http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/Family%20Tree/

Feel free to copy and keep any pictures you'd like. :)
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Wednesday 24 September 08 02:21 BST (UK): Hi Janet,

What can I say? THANKS VERY MUCH!!! I hope that indicates how appreciative I am of the photographs. They are just what I wanted. I'm glad they weren't too hard to find, albeit with the help of a guide. I too probably would have been walking up and down looking for something on the wall ;D

RootsChat is a great site for this kind of help when things are on the other side of the world. Only last week I took some photo's of an Australian grave for an English RootsChatter. He too was grateful with his photo's, and wanted to know what he could do in return. I told him not to worry as "what goes around, comes around", and your effort is a prime example of that. Yes, its a good feeling when we can all help each other in the spirit of Family Research.

Once again, thank you!

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Friday 26 September 08 10:06 BST (UK): You are more than welcome. :)

I'm not as quick at tracking down missing info from census returns like some Rootschatters but I'm more than happy to do photographing - in fact, I positively enjoy it - it's nearly as good as looking for my own relatives!
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Friday 26 September 08 10:50 BST (UK): Quote from: Bagpuss_Janet on Friday 26 September 08 10:06 BST (UK)
I'm not as quick at tracking down missing info from census returns like some Rootschatters but I'm more than happy to do photographing - in fact, I positively enjoy it - it's nearly as good as looking for my own relatives!

Janet, your reply is a carbon copy of my very own experiences with RootsChat! I have taken a few photo's for some people, but trying to answer questions before the others, well I often run a close second place (if I can answer them at all). I answered one the other day when it came on the screen the moment I was looking at the unread posts. I replied with the correct answer, but was beaten by another RootsChatter by 27 seconds.

Yes, its fun, enjoyable, and very heartening to find so many people willing to help others.

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Pete E on Sunday 05 October 08 14:21 BST (UK): Hi Les,
Excuse me leaping into your thread. I have been tracing my wife's tree and discovered her 3 x gt grandmother was a Sarah Corfe, who was baptised 02 September 1813 in Stocksbridge Hampshire, parents Richard Corfe & Joan unknown. Sarah married John Ingleby at Marylebone Middlesex in 1829. Was wondering if there could be any connection between these Corfes and yours?
Cheers Pete
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Monday 06 October 08 12:53 BST (UK): Hi Pete. No problems whatsoever "leaping into my thread", as that's the only way of finding things out, though unfortunately, it doesn't appear so this time.

Although Joseph and Mary Corfe are my direct ancestors, this is the only Corfe surname I've really followed. They came from Salisbury, Wiltshire, and had 3 sons and a daughter, I being descended from the daughter, therefore no more Corfe family surnames for me.

The four children were all born around 1760's/1770's in Salisbury. One son died unmarried in a naval shipwreck, one married to a Bella Graham and I know of no children. The 3rd son son married, and had some 10 children around the time of the birth of your ggg grandmother, but no Sarahs. And the daughter only had one child, my gg grandfather.

So can't help you with your Corfes, but good luck, and enjoy your "hunting".

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Pete E on Monday 06 October 08 18:23 BST (UK): Hi Les,
Well that's a pity, was hoping there might be a connection as Corfe does not appear to be that common a surname. Only 70 families in the1891 census according to Ancestry, never know might find a connection eventually.
Have you seen somebody else from Oz was looking for Corfe organists in Salisbury Cathedral on Ancestry back in 2001?
Cheers Pete
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Tuesday 07 October 08 02:24 BST (UK): Quote from: fremund on Monday 06 October 08 18:23 BST (UK)
Have you seen somebody else from Oz was looking for Corfe organists in Salisbury Cathedral on Ancestry back in 2001?

I was in contact with someone around that time, in fact there may have been more than one. I think one from Oz and one from the UK? We shared a little bit of information, as I don't normally "wander" any further than direct ancestors, and ancestors' siblings and their families. I'm sure it was one of those researchers who supplied me with the names of the 10 children of one of the sons. I'm sure(?) she had a lot more information on those children's descendants, but it was getting too far away from my direct lines. I just recorded the 10 names and birth/death years.

I don't remember seing anything on Ancestry, though that is not to say they aren't there. I know my tree is on RootsWeb which associated with Ancestry, though my tree is very very old, and needs updating badly with new information and amendments.

This is the link to RootsWeb World Connect with results of the Corfe surname

http://www.rootschat.com/links/04gq/

Perhaps you may find something here?

Les

Moderator Comment: Very long link shrunk using http://www.rootschat.com/links/
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Tuesday 14 October 08 18:12 BST (UK): Hi All

These Corfes are related. Joseph had a cousin called James who was the son of John Corfe, dancing master, the brother of Joseph Corfe senior, the father of Joseph the organist. John was born in 1702 and was married to Lucretia Bourne/Boorn of Amesbury. James was born in 1728 in Salisbury and was an apothecary in Stockbridge. Richard, born 1769 is the son of James and his wife Edith Knight. He was a draper and his wife was Joan Nash. I never knew they had a Sarah. So far I'd found a Robert Carey, Lucretia Jane, Charlotte, Mary and Thomas and I thought I had searched the records all through!

The father of John and Joseph senior was John born around 1670 in Winchester. His parents were Robert and Barbara and his wife's name was also Joane. Don't know her maiden name though. I believe that Robert's father may also be Robert but I can't be sure.

Pete, if these are your people then a) your wife is related to my husband and b) Lucretia has most likely some very illustrious ancestry.

Les, have you ever come across a book called "The John Marsh Journals" which is an edition of journals kept by an amateur composer and musician of that time. I got it on Amazon and it brings your ancestor Joseph to life as nothing but a contemporary account can. However, I have to say that I don't think John Marsh was his greatest fan!! ;)

I have quite a file on the Corfes so if either would like any further info please let me know.

Anne
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Wednesday 15 October 08 12:10 BST (UK): Quote from: AnneK on Tuesday 14 October 08 18:12 BST (UK)
I have quite a file on the Corfes so if either would like any further info please let me know.
Anne

Thanks Anne

Yes, I would like to see if you have any further details. I will contact you via PM, after I check my Corfe records, and hopefully we can swap some information :)

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: BLANK on Sunday 28 November 10 02:12 GMT (UK): b
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Monday 29 November 10 10:46 GMT (UK): Hi jon
Nice to hear from a real Corfe. I am sure that there is a link between the Corfes in Winchester and those in Salisbury. I know that George Corfe the son of Joseph the organist spent time in Stockbridge and Winchester. I have seen Joseph's account books which mention this.

The most obvious link is the occupations. The Winchester Corfes are also chemists, surgeons and tailors and drapers though they seem to be less involved in the church. I guess that the link is with a ?brother of Robert Corfe of Winchester whose two sons moved to Salisbury in 1692 as singing men for the Cathedral. There is some question of his being a bell ringer and from the OPRs which I've seen he seems to have been a church warden. His father's name may also have been Robert though I'm not clear about that. I am pretty sure that a good rummage in the Parish Records in Winchester would produce some fruit in this regard but sadly I live in the North of Scotland, currently under several feet of snow.

One of the Corfes, Henry an apothecary or chemist spent time in Glasgow for a while but fairly quickly scuttled back down South.

I have your Robert marrying Mary Miller in Southampton in 1819.

I
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Monday 29 November 10 10:55 GMT (UK): Hi again

I seem to have run out of space. As far a I can see your Robert is the son of Edward Corfe and Susanna whose name is currently unknown. I have carefully failed to include my source for this on my Corfe database. Yes, indeed sad person that I am I actually have one of those! My info on the Winchester Corfes is thinner than on the Salisbury ones but I'm sure it is only there for the finding.

My favourite Winchester Corfes are Frederick who was a surgeon, emigrated to the USA and was a field surgeon for the North in the Civil War . I see he is one of yours. Is he your direct ancestor? There is quite a lot about him out there on the www.

I also have an affection for Beatrice Olive who is also a descendent of your Robert and did some lovely water colours, mainly of flowers but also of other subjects.

Please message again if you think I may have any more info you may find helpful.

Anne
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Monday 29 November 10 11:31 GMT (UK): Just remembered. Joseph the organist's house in Twyford near Winchester is currently for sale for a cool £4.5 million. It is on Strutt and Parker's website. Personally, I think Les should reclaim it as his ancestral home.

Anne
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: BLANK on Monday 29 November 10 11:33 GMT (UK): b
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Monday 29 November 10 11:40 GMT (UK): Hi Joni

I can heartily recommend the record office in Winchester as I have spent a few happy hours there on two separate visits and I have no doubt there is more Corfe info to be dredged up. As my husband is descended from one of the sons who moved to Salisbury I have not concentrated on the Winchester branch to the same extent. Much of the Hampshire record office catalogue is online. Have you seen it?

Having rechecked I see that my information on Robert's parentage came from the IGI when it says that he was baptised in St Swithun over Kingsgate on 19th April 1786 and gives sisters Maria and Rachael. The fact that this is the correct Robert is confirmed by his having a sister Maria of the right age living with him on one of the censuses. It is certainly the case that John and Ann had an Edward (see settlement certificate 1760) but I'm assuming that your informant has other confirmation that that is the right Edward.

My own ancestry is largely Scottish but from further South than the Orkneys (or here for that matter) though I do have some German and Irish thrown in for good measure. Have you visited Orkney. It is a lovely place though probably not just now.

BTW I love the picture illustrating your name. Where is it?

Anne
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: BLANK on Monday 29 November 10 12:15 GMT (UK): b
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: AnneK on Monday 29 November 10 12:32 GMT (UK): Warm sounds good to me just now!

As I recall you can ask for copies from the website but would guess that going there actually to read the originals and search through the parish records would if poss be the way forward. The record office also has a search service for a fee (if this has not all been devastated by the current cut backs).

There is a will of Edward Corfe, mercer, in 1855 catalogued which might well be worth looking at as could be your Edward senior or possibly a brother of Robert. He would have to have lived to a grand old age for it to be Robert's father though Robert himself made old bones. It might be worth getting a copy of that. From the various documents in the record office it seems that the Corfes did have property.

I am reasonably adept with Scottish records so if I can help in any way with your Orcadians or other Scots drop me a line.

Anne
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Tuesday 30 November 10 01:17 GMT (UK): Hi Jonni and Anne

Welcome to RootsChat, a great way to receive help in researching, and give some help too.
Most of my CORFE lines comes from Salisbury, with only a token mention of Winchester. I mainly deal with direct blood ancestors, and their sibblings, and to a lesser extent their sibblings' families.

I'm descended from Robert CORFE (Winchester) and his wife Barbara, then John CORFE (Winchester) and Joanne, then Joseph CORFE (Salisbury) and Anne, then Joseph CORFE (Salisbury) and Mary BERNARD. My CORFE line stops here after their daughter, Mary Bernard CORFE married my ggg grandfather Chalres Henry (Harry) BELIN in 1789.

If you would like some information on those CORFE members (and their sibblings) let me know, and I would be glad to help out.

Yes, Anne, I am interested in the house of Joseph CORFE being For Sale on the internet. I like to obtain that sort of information for my records, to give the ancestors some "blood & bone". I'll be checking out that site as soon as I am finished here ;D

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: BLANK on Tuesday 30 November 10 10:11 GMT (UK): b
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Tuesday 30 November 10 10:36 GMT (UK): Hi Joni

I'll send you a PM.

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Minimoo on Tuesday 11 November 14 17:03 GMT (UK): I am very late joining this thread.having just returned to my "tree work " after a long break.

I have a Corfe "twig " on my tree. My Gt.Gt.Aunt Barbara Ashton was married to George M Wilson, son of Richard Wilson and Emma Corfe who was one of the 14 children of Arthur Thomas Corfe,the organist at Salisbury Cathedral.
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Tuesday 11 November 14 18:56 GMT (UK): What has happened to Joni's posts? I can only see a letter 'b' in them? ???
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Minimoo on Wednesday 12 November 14 15:48 GMT (UK): I did wonder about that,I have no idea what it means.
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Haan3232 on Saturday 26 September 15 08:30 BST (UK): Hello, my name is Adrienne Corfe and I live in New Zealand. I am just starting out on my quest to know more of my family background as the result of coming into possession of some beautiful letters that have been held in storage for many years. They are written by Rev. Arthur Thomas Corfe, Rector, Stockton, Wilts, 1868, and then Principal, at Elizabeth College, Guernsey. Arthur married Margaret Rivare Maingay. These letters are written to Margaret when they first starting courting. This has me so excited and the family here would like to know more. Rev. Arthur Thomas has a son called Charles Carteret. Charles had five sons, one of them being my great grandfather Charles Reginald. Charles Reginald had one son, Charles Carteret, my grandfather. My Grandfather had two children, Anthony Carteret, my Dad, and a sister Dianne. Anthony has four children, myself, two sisters, Sonia and Christine, and we have one brother, John Carteret. I would so like to hear back from you. This has opened up a whole new world for the family.
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Saturday 26 September 15 08:39 BST (UK): Hi Adrienne

I also received an email from you - I will reply by email - hopefully I'll have a little bit of information for you ;)

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Haan3232 on Sunday 21 January 18 07:39 GMT (UK): Hi,
I am a descendant of Robert Corfe 1645 to 1707, who married Barbara. Is there any information preceding 1645 on the Corfe family. I am from the Salisbury Corfe's. I am keen to know the origins of the Corfe surname. I have also in my possession two love letters written in french from Arthur Thomas to Margaret Maingay. These were found in my late father's possessions, Anthony Carteret Corfe, who passed away on February 11th 2017, here in New Zealand.
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Sunday 21 January 18 09:01 GMT (UK): I see we have communicated before, though 3 years ago!

I can only go one generation beyond the Robert CORFE you mention. These are my scant notes

Whitfield CORFE - estimated b. early 1600's.

Only details recorded of him are found in grandson's 1743's Will (John CORFE d.28/4/1743) - ".........books legacy of my grandfather Whitfield CORFE of Amesbury". Two of John's children have the name Whitfield.

Records that far back are very far and few between........and not that reliable ;D
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Welshdragon29 on Wednesday 17 March 21 20:07 GMT (UK): I have a Margaret louisa corfe born 1907 - dies 1941 in my fathers side of the family partner robert lyon pearson born 1892- dies 1959 and they where parents of my grandmother june pearson born 1941- died 1974 if that is any resemblance?
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: Les de B on Thursday 18 March 21 06:35 GMT (UK): Quote from: Welshdragon29 on Wednesday 17 March 21 20:07 GMT (UK)
I have a Margaret louisa corfe born 1907 - dies 1941 in my fathers side of the family partner robert lyon pearson born 1892- dies 1959 and they where parents of my grandmother june pearson born 1941- died 1974 if that is any resemblance?

Sorry, I can't help you with your inquiry. I've only dealt with my direct blood CORFE ancestors, and their siblings, and siblings' immediate familes. I think your Corfe people just fall out of my criteria guidelines. :(

Regards

Les
Title: Re: Joseph & Mary CORFE interred Salisbury Cathedral
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 March 21 10:43 GMT (UK): Welcome to Rootschat Welshdragon29.

At this stage I cannot see any connection to the Corfes mentioned earlier in this post.
Margaret Lousia's Parents were James Pinnington Corfe and Fanny Lousa Morris
She was born Liverpool, Lancs
James born Cheshire and Fanny born Linchgate, Shropshire

James birth reg GRO;
CORFE, JAMES PINNINGTON Mothers maiden name PINNINGTON**
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 447

1881 mistranscribed;
Joseph Coyle 57 Head Mar General Labourer born Burton
Ellen Coyle 55 born Liverpool, Lancashire
John Coyle   20
Elizth.Ellen Coyle 15
JAMES Coyle 11 born Birkenhead****

1871 they are under ;
Joseph Coope 46 born Bidstone***
Ellen Coope 43
Robert Coope 18
Joseph Coope 13
John Coope 10
Elizabeth E Coope 6
James P Coope   1***

1891 they are under Coope also.

1861 Census
Joseph Corf 34
Ellen Corf   32
Robert Corf 6
Joseph Corf 3
John Corf   0

F/S Bapt;
Joseph CORFE 4 September 1825 Bidstone, Cheshire to JOSEPH/MARGT

So mostly Cheshire for the Familys roots.

Trish :)

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