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Title: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CAROLYNDERRY on Tuesday 22 April 08 14:51 BST (UK)
i am going round in circles with these cornwells from bottisham as i can not find my relative isaacs birth details therefore am unable to match him to any particular family. i have narrowed it down a bit i think!!
william married mary benstead in 1812
i have 3 children robert charlotte and elizabeth who i think may all have died in infancy-is there any way of checking this out.
i am taking a very wild guess that they may have had more children ?????my isaac and wondering whether mary died either then or later
is anyone able to verify this or look it up anywhere

i then have a william widower marrying sarah adcock in 1832 had 2 children with sarah. sarah died and william then married ruth goodwin in1846
could this be the same william throughout.
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CatOne on Tuesday 22 April 08 15:00 BST (UK)
Do you have Isaac's marriage cert? I assume hes this one?

Isaac Cornwell June 1839 Chesterton Vol 14 Page 69
Bride - Rebekah Papworth

This should name his father/occupation

Regards
Cat  :)
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CAROLYNDERRY on Tuesday 22 April 08 15:21 BST (UK)
hi yes i have isaac marriage cert to rebekah in 1839

this says that his father was Wm dead-not very helpful i'm afraid

i have turned to trying to match up all the cornwells originating from bottisham to try and work out who's son is ?isaac.
i have narrowed it down to apossible 3 but ther may be more.

william and mary are 1 of my possibles
i also have a william son of edmund and elizabeth born c1798 but no marriage for him
i have a william son of william and ann arber again no definite marriage for him

any idead would be gratefully received
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CatOne on Tuesday 22 April 08 15:51 BST (UK)
Have you contacted the Cambridgeshire FHS, just had a quick look and I think they have CDs of the parish registers for Bottisham (1561-1950), you could check those??  :-\ the IGI doesn't seem to be very helpful  :-\

The William you found in 1841 married to Sarah, and in 1851 married to Ruth, seems to be the same one though.....
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CAROLYNDERRY on Tuesday 22 April 08 16:01 BST (UK)
thanks for that. do you know if you can purchase the cd or do they do look ups for you??

thanks for your help though :)

carolyn
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CatOne on Tuesday 22 April 08 16:11 BST (UK)
Theres a search facility, looks like they've got some baptisms online, otherwise I presume you can buy the appropriate cds. Try googling "Cambridgeshire FHS" it looks quite a good site.

Good Luck
Cat  :)
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Tuesday 22 April 08 18:36 BST (UK)
Cambs FHS has an excellent site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html
which includes baptism and burial indexes for all Cambs parishes 1801-37. Just put in Corn and Bottisham to pick up all the spelling variations

The burial index shows Robert, Charlotte, and Elizabeth all buried as infants at Bottisham Load

David
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CAROLYNDERRY on Tuesday 22 April 08 19:22 BST (UK)
thanks, i have exhausted that site
just wondered whether there was any more info available on cd. it seems that info for bottisham only available on microfiche

carolyn
Title: Re: William and Mary Cornwell
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Tuesday 22 April 08 21:54 BST (UK)
You asked if William & Mary had more children after their first three all died as young infants. The non conformist records show a birth recorded in the Bottisham Lode baptist church book on 3 Aug 1817 of Susan daughter of William & Mary Cornell of Bottisham Lode. Is there any sign that your Isaac was baptist? It might be significant that in 1841 and 1851 Isaac was living in the then hamlet of Bottisham Lode, 2 miles from Bottisham. William & Mary were from Bottisham Lode, and their first three children were all of Bottisham Lode on burial.

Like Bottisham parish register, my non-conformist register transcript is only available on fiche. It's amazing what you can do with a 30x magnifying glass! Or perhaps your local library has a fiche reader.


The Bottisham fiche will give more information than the index, but if Isaac's christening isn't on the Baptism Index 1801-37 then it won't be in the parish register from which the index was transcribed. I've just found that the baptist births are on the baptism index under the parish "Lode baptists". But still no Isaac.

Another possibility is that he might have been illegitimate and invented a father's name for his marriage, and of course his father was dead!

David
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: CAROLYNDERRY on Wednesday 23 April 08 15:36 BST (UK)
again thanks for the reply.
i don't know that i will ever get to the bottom of this. iam really stuck, Isaac doesn't even appear to be a family name like a great many of them. do earlier marriage records contain fathers names as isaac was married to sarah lofts before rebekah?
is there any where i can get more info?

carolyn
Title: Re: William and Mary Cornwell
Post by: bedfordshire boy on Wednesday 23 April 08 16:06 BST (UK)
No, pre 1837 marriage entries only contain the names of two witnesses, not fathers' names, which was only a requirement following the introduction of civil registration. I would find out from the Bottisham transcript who the witnesses were to Isaac's first marriage to see if they provide a clue - they might be siblings**.

I suspect he may have been a son of William and Mary, but proving it is another matter. I think I would be looking to see if the Lode Baptist church book was available - it is - Bottisham Lode Strict Baptist Chapel - at Cambridge Records Office. I have transcriptions of similar Strict Baptist chapels in Beds, and they contain lists of church members. You might get lucky.

Was William of William & Mary really dead by the time of Isaac's second marriage? If he wasn't it might imply that his father was either another William or fictitious

David

** I see you were given these names on your earlier thread. No Cornwells among them, so not a lot of help. Another door closes.
Title: Re: william and mary cornwell
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 23 April 08 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Carolyn

Married at Bottisham 9th February 1836
Isaac Cornwell otp signed with x
Sarah Loughts/ Lofts otp signed with x
wit
John White
Susanna Lofts
Ann Arber

No other information

Rosie