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I have a Robeert Cleave with wife Philippa, aged 29, born St Columb Major, on the 1861 census.
A Robert Cleave, married a Philippa Buckthought, in Mar Q, 1858 St Columb District.
In 1841, a Philippa Buckthought, is the daughter of Joseph Buckthought, of St Columb Major. ( Piece: HO107/149/7 Place: Pydar -Cornwall Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: St. Columb Major Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 78 Page: 1 Address: Trekenning Higher ).
In BMD, a Jane Buckthought dies, June Q 1841, St Columb District.
I would like the marriage for Joseph Buckthought and the baptisms of the children, if possible please.
thank you
junket
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Hi Junket,
That census ref gives father as Joseph not John :-\
Kris
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My mistake, I do mean Joseph, sorry Kris.
I have amended my post .
junket ( who needs a new brain ..... )
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LOL Its OK junket. I was looking for Joseph ;D
Joseph BUCKTHOUGHT otp = Elizabeth BREWER otp by Banns 1 Jan 1818 St Columb Major both signed witnesses Thomas Buckthought, Betsey Brewer and Betsey ?
No sign of burial for Elizabeth The only Buckthought is
Jane BUCKTHOUGHT of St Columb was buried 21 Jun 1841 St Columb Major aged 23 years
Kris :D
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aha Elizabeth is still alive. Joseph is seen as a widow in 1871 :D
They do not appear to be buried in St Columb Major. Joseph lived to a ripe old age dying in 1883. He was from Padstow, Elizabeth was from St Columb Minor
Kris :D
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Thanks Kris.
Jane, could be the daughter on the 1841 census, bc 1827. If what I have is correct, the census in 1841, was 06 06 1841 ?
I have Joseph born Padstow in Trekenning, in 1851 with wife Elizabeth and daughter Helen ( Ellen of 1841 ? )
Which ties in nicely and explains why no burial ( if my brain is functioning ).
junket
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Could Elizabeth, in 1841, be Betsy Buckthought, aged 40 assistant for the Veales ? (Piece: HO107/149/7 Place: Pydar -Cornwall Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: St. Columb Major Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 78 Page: 1 Address: Rosesuggan ).
As in 1851, Sampson Buckthought is with them ?
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Baptisms to Joseph and Elizabeth BUCKTHOUGH St Columb Major Parish Church
William 20 Oct 1818 father farmer of St Columb
Joseph 17 Dec 1820 father farmer of Quoit
Betsey 21 Sep 1823 Father farmer of Quoit
Mary Anne 14 Oct 1825 father farmer of Quoit
Baptisms to Joseph and Elizabeth BUCKTHOUGHT Bodmin Wesleyan
Philippa born 7 Dec 1830, bap 2 Jan 1831
Sampson born 27 Sep 1833, bap 20 Nov 1833 (of Quoit St Columb Major)
Ellen born 7 June 1836, bap 10 Aug 1836 (of St Columb Major)
Cheers Kris :D
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Yes junket,
I think Elizabeth is the Betsey you mention - her daughter was baptised as Betsey yet appears as Elizabeth in census and there is a possible death for Elizabeth in 1861 which may substantiate this (death lists Betsey) ;) Just no luck with the burial for an age etc to prove its her I am afraid. (non conformist perhaps)
Jane buried in 1841 aged 23 was daughter of George and Jane (bap 2 Jan 1818)
Cheers Kris :D
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Whoopee for Betsy Kris.
Oops, for Jane :)
I have been advised to try reconstructing and I do, but not too successfully ( you need the right bricks )...............lol
I have seen a George, born Padstow, ( a butcher ? ), am wondering, if he is connected to Joseph ...........
Thank you, Kris.
junket ( back searching and hoping .. )
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Joseph the son of Philip BUCKTHOUGHT by Mary his wife was baptised Padstow 13 July 1794
No marriage in Padstow but I did spot
Philip BUCKTHOUGHT = Mary REYNOLDS 18 Sep 1782 Withiel
Philip BUCKTHOUGHT of Quoit St Columb was buried St Columb Major 24 Mar 1821 aged 81 years
Yes Joseph and George are brothers ;)
Elinor 27 Dec 1782
Sampson 28 Dec 1784
Jenny 1 Jan 1787
George 15 Jun 1788
Betty 27 Jun 1790
Thomas 17 Jun 1792
Ann 26 Jun 1796
Marianne 7 Apr 1801
Cheers Kris :D
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:) :) :) WHOOPEE Kris
I have seen a Mary, aged 80 in 1841, too.
Been chasing William 1818 and think I have him in 1841 and 1851 and his marriage.
Thank you so much Kris.
I started this morning looking for an Ellen Cleave, who I found and wanted to tie in her parents, with my other Cleaves, in the St Minver area, I have wandered a little, with Robert her brother.......
junket
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Hi Junket, I have lots of info on Elizabeth Brewer's Family who wed Joseph Buckthought. I have 7 children born to Joseph & Elizabeth, but only 3 Chr, 1 Ellen chr 10 Aug 1836 Wesleyan Bodmin Circuit (born 7 June 1736), 2 Philippa 2 Jan 1831 Wesleyan Bodmin circuit(born 7 Dec 1830), 3 Sampson Che 20 Nov 1833 Wesleyan Bodmin circuit (born 27 Sep 1833). If you would like more info send me personel message. Regards Terry
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Hi Terry,
Please note reply 7 where I posted the 7 baptisms I found ;)
Kris :D
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Hi Chris, sorry reading through to quick missed them, will up date my tree with this info. Thanks Terry
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:) Thanks Terry,
I will contact you tomorrrow.
junket.
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Hi
My file says that Joseph & Elizabeth nee Brewer Had 7 children.
I am connected through Elizabeth's father William Brewer he being a bro of my gt-gt-gt-gr-father.
can go back 5 more generations from William
Let me know if you need more info.
P B