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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: marp on Friday 18 April 08 23:33 BST (UK)
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Does anyone have information on the parents of William Murray baptised 15 July 1829 in Paisley? His parents were Thomas Murray and Christian McGregor.
Any assistance with the date of his parent's marriage or baptismal dates of the parents would be welcome.
I am looking for information about the family before William emigrated to Australia. He married in Melbourne in 1851.
Many thanks, marp
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There's an IGI patron submission for their marriage 5th Octoboer 1826, Mearns, Renfrew
It will need checking on Scotlands People though.
Gadget :)
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Scotlands People have it as 3 November 1827. Same parish.
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Thanks Gadget, that was quick. will do.
Any possible leads on birth dates of parents would be great.
Thanks, marp
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There's a possible on the 1841 in Neilston - no sign of William though :-\
Levernlodge, Neilston, Renfrew
Thomas Murray, 35-39, carter, b. Ireland
Mrs Murray, 35-39
Thomas, 10,
Christian, 9
Agness, 8
John, 5,
Mariana, 4
Charles, 3
Mrs Murray and children all born Renfrew
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IGI has this baptism:
Christian McGregor, 11 December 1799, Eastwood, Renfrew
Parents - William McGregor and Christian Finnie
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Apart from Christian, they had:
Robert William McGregor, bpt. 11 Sept 1797, Oakshaw East Associate Congregational, Paisley
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Not sure about this one but it's the only Christian Finnie/Finny of the approx age:
Baptism - 25 May 1766 Christian Finie, Inverkip, Renfrew
Paarents - John Finie and Christian Beith
Gadget :)
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Thanks so much. I am doing this for a distant relative by marriage who has the Australian details of William Murray and his descendents. The relative is not computer savvy so there is no question of them looking up family history.
We had no details of the family prior to emigration to Victoria, Australia. Thank you so much you have been enormously helpful.
marp
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Thomas Murray b 1801, Muirkirk, Ayrshire, Scotland. Christened St Andrews RC Chapel.
Married Christian McGregor (b 1799, Eastwood, Renfrewshire) on 20 Nov 1827 St Andrews, Glasgow
Children James, William, Thomas, Christina, Agnes, John, Charles and my ancestor Mary Ann.
Parents of Christian are Christian Finnie and William McGregor.
The only thing I have on Thomas Murray parent is that his father is recorded as Thomas Murray (gardener) on his death certificate but mother unknown. I am interested to find his parents.
Liz
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Thanks for this. I am doing this for a descendent of William Murray (son of Thomas Murray and Christian McGregor) who married a Mary Ann White in 1851 at St Francis RC church in Melbourne. I have no other details of the marriage. However, the person for whom I am doing this has a family tree booklet of the Murray family in Australia. As I am sure you know some of the Murray family settled in Trafalgar, Victoria.
I take it Thomas Murray was born in Ireland (given the information in this string of messages). Have you seen or do you have a copy of the death certificate? I take it he died in Victoria Australia? I too would like to pursue the connection further.
marp
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Would love to discuss this family further.
I am tracing Ellen/Helen McGregor bc 1838-9 in Renfrewshire, marries in Melbourne, Victoria in 1859.
Parents James McGregor and Ellen Devin according to her marriage cert.
I think I have found her on the 1841 and 1851 census living with her grandparents Charles and Margaret McGregor and her father, James.
I have a potential death certificate for Charles in 1860, that gives his parents as William McGregor and Christina Finnie. According to the census he would be born in Stirlingshire around 1788.
Really interested to see another link to Australia through the Murray family as I couldn't work out how Ellen got to Australia and whether she travelled with anyone else.
Would love to know if anyone has further details on this family.
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I am not sure that I can help you. I only know the branch of the family of Christian McGregor who married Thomas Murray in 3 November 1827 in Mearns, Renfreshire. They emigrated to Victoria, Australia. The family settled in the Moe and Trafalgar regions of Victoria. However, as you probably know many Scots emigrated in family groups or groups from the same community. It is likely that several McGregors or Murrays emigrated either with them or around the same time.
However, I will pass your post on to my relative (a direct descendent of Christian McGregor and Thomas Murray) and see whether she has any ideas on the topic.
marp
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Thanks Marp. I appreciate you passing this query on.
Fiona