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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dunbartonshire => Topic started by: b1gf00t on Sunday 13 April 08 06:03 BST (UK)
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I am descended from Daniel McBride & Martha Dues. A son of their's William Dues McBride migrated to New Zealand in the 1860's and settled in Dunedin. My understanding is that he was born in Dumbarton. I also understand that he was a tailor.
Daniel & Martha married at Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland on 27th June 1828 - I believe - but beyond that I know nothing at all about them.
William and his wife Betsy Millar migrated separately, met in Dunedin, married and had a family of 9 children - my grandfather Alfred Millar McBride was their 7th child.
Is there anyone out there who can help me in my research
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Hello
Welcome to Rootschat
From the Free census records, (for 1841 only), at www.freecen.org.uk go to the link - you'll find out where they were living, make sure you select '1841'. There is only the one Daniel in Scotland of the correct age - and only a total of 7 of varying ages. Also note that for the 1841 census only - ages were 'rounded' down - therefore they adults could have been up to 35 yrs old..
MCBRIDE Daniel M 30 Tailor Ireland
MCBRIDE Martha F 30 Ireland
MCBRIDE William M 8 Ayrshire
MCBRIDE Daniel M 6 Ayrshire
MCBRIDE James M 2 Ayrshire
Civil Parish: Dundonald. Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Fullarton
Folio: 6, Page: 1
Address: Fullarton Street
Regards, Steve :O)
Hopefully others with access to census records will pitch in and take this family forward in the 10 yrly records.
What you'd then have to do is go to the pay per view site www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk £6 buys 5 'extracts.
If Daniel and Martha died in Scotland - it would or hopefully should give both their parents names and occupations.
Marriage records of siblings to William would also be of value. Copies of the cesnsus records can also be downloaded from the same site.
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Thank you so much for that. My time this afternoon was not wasted after all.
Regards
Barrie :)
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This looks to be the family in 1851:
Danl McBride 54, Yader (trans?) b. Paisley, Renfrew
Martha McBride 48, b. Irvine Ayrshire
Martha McBride 22, b. Irvine Ayrshire
William McBride 20, tailor, b. Dumbart, Dumbartonshire
Dainel McBride 16, b. Greenock Renfrewshire
James McBride 9, b. Irvine Ayrshire
Mary McBride 7, b. Irvine Ayrshire
Fanny McBride 5, b. Irvine Ayrshire
Catherine McBride 2, b. Glasgow
John Kendal 19, lodger, b. England
Address: Close 13 Bell Street, Glasgow St Paul, Lanarkshire
And in 1861:
Daniel McBride 53, tailor, b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Martha McBride 60, b. Irvine, Ayrshire
James McBride 22, b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Mary McBride 19, b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Fanny McBride 17, b. Irvine, Ayrshire
Catherine McBride 72, daughter age certainly mistranscribed!
Address: 6 Brown Street, Glasgow St George
Daniel Snr. may have died by 1871:
Martha McBride 68, head, b. Irvine
Catherine McBride 22, b. Glasgow
Thomas Harris 78, lodger, b. Ireland
Address: 48 Nelson Street, Glasgow St Paul
Monica :)
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That is wonderful.
Thank you, Monica.
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Hi. Iam also descended from Martha & Daniel McBride, Martha the daughter 1832-1/6/1917 married Robert Newton Scott 30 March 1855 Bendigo Victoria Australia my G-G-Grandparents. Daniel the son c1838-14 October 1884 Preston Victoria Australia, Daniel never married. On his death certificate it stated that he was in New Zealand for 20 years and then 9 years in Victoria.
William Dues, born c1832 Irving Ayrshire Scotland. William migrated to Australia as an unassisted passenger on the Sailing ship ELEUTHERIA which left Glasgow Scotland on the 1st August 1853 and arrived in the port of Melbourne on the 5th January 1854 with 23 fellow passengers.
Len Hill, Melbourne
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Len
Thank you for that. I had looked in vain in New Zealand records for any sign of Daniel. He was William's best man and his occupation was listed as "currier". But other than that record there was nothing else.
William was named William Dues - taking his mother's surname as is a Scottish tradition, I believe - and he had a son with the same name and also a grandson.
I have very little information on the family background. This forum has opened up some lines of investigation but the New Zealand connection is very, very small. Only four of William and Betsy family married. Of those two had no family, one had a son who also did not marry, and my grandfather had three sons. The eldest William Dues had no family. My family is four boys and one girl and, sadly the family line is dying out.
I would like to correspond further, away from this forum but I'm not sure how to do that.
Regards
Barrie McBride
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I have information on daniel mcbride coming to new york
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That is very interesting. Does it fit with a birthdate of around 1838 and parent's details already noted above? If it does then perhaps other members of the family, of whom we know nothing, may also have gone to the US.
Regards
Barrie McBride
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I wonder if you RootChatters are still following this...
I am searching for Mary DUES who married William KILGOUR in an unknown place. They came to New Zealand in 1842. Presume they married in Scotland.
Their eldest son is born in Irving, Aryshire about 1826.
The McBride location of Dunbarton, Greenock and Ireland on the census also match my family.
I wish we both knew the parents names of these DUES daughters?
Mary DUES is born between 1800 to 1804 in Scotland. She is known to be a tall lady who was very kind. I don't know how to get back any further.
Forty years ago I was told about two brothers coming to NZ - one stay and one went to Australia. However I've reheard that tale so many times, and thought it belonged with the Kilgours.
I'm really digging deep as I have the family history for 6 out of their seven children. Many thousands of descendants!
The missing person is the second daughter Martha Kilgour, born 27 May 1829, in Dumbarton - she is known to be alive in 1881.
If your Martha DUES has a mother called Martha, then..... my fingers are crossed. please link! ;D
KaeDee
New Zealand
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Send me an email: barriemac@clear.co.nz
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Your email bounced... will PM my details to you
KaeDee