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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: Baytree on Friday 11 April 08 10:32 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I have 2 brothers named William (Bill) b1906 and Ivor b1915 Beard, born Kings Norton, Birmingham.
Bill was in the National Fire Service in the City of Birmingham. Bill was largely responsible for the reorganisation in the West Midlands region.
He stayed with the fire service in Birmingham during the war.
In 1949 Bill was awarded the MBE in recognition of his work for the fire service.
His brother Ivor joined the RAF Volunteer Reserve in 1937.
By the outset of the war he was a qualified pilot with many flying hours to his credit and was called up at once.
As the war progressed Ivor became part of the intensive Training organisation based at the RAF Flying Training School at Sywell aerodrome in Northamptonshire.
Ivor taught British pilots as well as allied countries and Free French and Polish Forces.
In 1945 he received the MBE for his war service.
I would like to know who their parents were or any information about them. ???
Regards
Dawn :)
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Their Mothers Maiden name was Hadley ...
Births Sep 1915
BEARD Ivor M Hadley Kings Nort. V6d P64
should be able to work back and find a pre 1906 marriage for a Beard - Hadley combination ..
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et voila ..
Marriages Jun 1905
BEARD William Edward King's Nort. Vol 6c P828
HADLEY Alice Elizabeth King's Nort. Vol 6c P828
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Hi Newfster,
That was quick. Do you possibly have the fathers' name and a date of birth?
Thanks
Dawn :)
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Hi
You could always send of for the birth certificates and work back from there
Birth Kings Norton 1915 Sep qtr 6d 64
Ivor M Beard mothers maiden name Hadley
Claire :)
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whose father ?
You need to obtain that Marriage Cert to be bulletproof about earlier generations - and in fact, really you should get Bill or Ivors Birth Cert to be 100% certain of this.
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Hi Newfster,
Our posts had crossed, you are so quick. ;D
It was Bill and Ivor's father, name and date of birth I was looking for.
Dawn
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Heres a likely candidate for the William E. Beard who married in the Kings N district in 1905 ..... again, you'd need the Marriage Cert to verify this entry ... but sadly his Father wasnt at home when the census was taken, so you'd need to look in 1891/81 too ...
1901 - RG13/2818; Folio: 134; Page: 25 - Smethwick (Kings N, Harborne district)
107, Gladys Road
Mary Beard 40 Married Head born Birmingham
William E Beard 20 son Manufacturers Clerk do
Arthur Beard 18 son do
Helen Beard 16 dau do
Henry Beard 14 son Errand Boy Smethwick
Jessie Beard 12 dau USA, PHILIDELPHIA
Elsie Beard 7 dau Smethwick
William Langford 20 Boarder
Frederick Atkins 20 do
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Thanks Newfster,
I have possibly found Bill & Ivor's grandfather on the 1881 census - William Beard b1859 in Ireland. So I shall have to look into that further.
Thanks for your help.
Dawn :)
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Hi Dawn,
I am related to Bill and Ivor, have been researching for some time and would love to compare notes.
S
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Hi,
I have the Beard's going back to c1664. But I have conflicting notes on who the father and mother were for Bill and Ivor. ???
If their father was William Edward Beard b1873, then he was the brother of my great grandmother.
His parents were William Beard b1845 and Emma Churm b1848. But other information gives me William's wife as Mary b?.
Perhaps you could shed some light on this for me?
Regards Dawn
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Hi Dawn,
According to my records Bill and Ivor's father was William Edward Beard (1881 - 1951) and their mother was Alice Elizabeth Hadley (1882 - 1952) They married in 1905. William Edward's parents were William John Beard (1859 - ?) and Mary Langford and they married on 7 June 1880.
Does this help you?
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certainly confirms the findings in the early posts of this thread :)
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Hi there
I know I'm rather late to this exchange ... I stumbled upon it as my father's cousins were William and Ivor Beard.
Alice Beard was the daughter of Thomas Smith (1857 - 1828). Thomas Smith married Jane Whetton.
Anyone still following this thread? I'm sure there is much more information to be uncovered.
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Hello
I got a message from 'Stephanie' but I don't seem to have the ability to send PMs. I think that perhaps I need to post a few more messages first.
Stephanie wrote that "I have their mother as Alice Elizabeth Hadley, daughter of Frank Hadley and Mary Ann Strickley"
However I definitely have a Mary Ann Hadley (d 1940 aged 87) in my family tree. According to my information, her brother was George Strickley ... who had five children, one of whom was my grandmother.
I'm trying to put all the pieces together ... l check with my father as to exactly where Alice Beard fits in.