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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: Homebody on Wednesday 09 April 08 21:58 BST (UK)
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I have been looking for my McKinnon's for about two years now, and in reading messages both here and other websites have never found anyone else searching for that name. Are they all gone, or just super secretive? I know I didn't hear much about Dad's family growing up except for his mother's line (Drysdale). I do know that they were Roman Catholic, Gaelic speaking and poor to the extreme. They arrived here in Ontario, Canada around 1852-1855, and were farm labourers. I have a gut feeling that they came from one of the Outer Islands, just because of all the reading about the clearances, and lack of passenger lists of that time. So, if any of you are left over there, did you have relatives named Donald and Catharine McKinnon, children Jonathan, Nancy and Mary who were sent out here? Do you have any family stories that you remember? Or how about strong family characteristics? The birth dates for this family are very approximate as every record I have found over here is different. Donald is about 1802, Catharine, 1809, Nancy, 1839, Johnathan, 1841 and Mary 1848.
Many thanks:
Lois
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Found the family in 1851 in Barra, Inverness and then saw that you already seem to know this as shown in your surname interests.
In case you don't already have the details they are:
Donald McKinnon 46 Cottar b. Barra, Inverness
Catharine McKinnon 42 ditto
Ann McKinnon 13 ditto
Jonathan McKinnon 10 ditto
Mary McKinnon 6 ditto
Judging from others in Barra the McKinnons had been in Barra for a long time.
Annette
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Hi Annette:
I did see that census record, and followed it back to 1841 also, but he was a fisherman then, and had a Christy McIntyre living with his family. That sort of made me think that it wasn't my family, as I am not familiar with a McIntyre in the mix. That was the closest match though. Is it off base do you think?
I'm hoping someone researching McKinnon's might have some info if there is such a person out there.
Thanks for your input.
Lois
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I have MacKinnons in my line but they are from Skye.
Charles MacKinnon Born Snizort 1792. His parents were Lachlan MacKinnon and Mary Campbell.
He married Anne Nicholson in Kilmuir.
I doubt if there is any connection but you never know
wini
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Hi Wini:
Thanks for the reply, its nice to know that there are some Mc/MacKinnon connections out there after all. I was beginning to think that they were extinct.
I think you are right about there being no connection here, although I thought mine might be from Skye at first. From all the reading I have done, it would seem that most of the Skye emigrates went to your home country, some might have come to Cape Breton or P.E.I. My particular McKinnons' came out (not voluntarily, I'm sure) about 1852-1855 to Ontario, which was about the same time as the clearances of Barra, North and South Uist, possibly Benbecula also.
I have traced all of the children from this family and found only the most miniscule hints about them. Three of the four sons never married, and moved away from this area. The one that married was my great-grandfather and stayed here. One daughter ended up in an asylum, and the other two girls married and moved to the U.S. The only hints that I found was a reference to Invernesshire and Highlanders in the medical records from the doctor, and gaelic language on one census record, along with Roman Catholic religion.
The most telling thing that really surprised me, given the naming patterns, was the fact that none of the grand-children were named after Donald or Catharine.
Thanks again for your interest Wini.
Lois
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I have Mackinnons in my family too. John was born around 1829 and his parents were John and Anne
He was married to Catherine who was also a Mackinnon. Her parents were John and Mary.
John and Catherine were married in Sleat
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Hello Wild_Thistle:
Thanks for your reply. I think I have seen a lot of Mc/MacKinnon entries on the IGI, mostly from Skye and Argyll, but not many from Barra. Maybe I should have asked if anyone was on here from Barra instead.
I know that a lot of Mc/MacKinnon's were on Barra for a long time given the numbers on the census records, but I'm having a devil of a time connecting my group with any others, or even if they truly came from Barra. The details do point there, but no real proof yet.
They seemed to be exceptionally close-mouthed in any of the records over here, and that trait continued on in further generations also.
I think I will have to get in touch with that gentleman researcher on Harris that I read about, eventually.
Are you having difficulty also, or have you been able to find everything you wanted?
Happy hunting: Lois
If you are having difficulty
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Hi Lois
My early MacKinnons' details are slightly obscure: -
1 Lachlin MacKinnon b: Abt. 1765
.. +Mary MacKinnon b: Abt. 1765
. 2 Lachlin MacKinnon b: Abt. 1795 in South Uist d: Bef. 1851 in South Uist
..... +Catherine 'Ketty' MacDonald b: Abt. 1799 in South Uist d: Aft. 1851
..... 3 Colin MacKinnon b: Abt. 1817 in Kilpheder, South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland. d: 1867 in Kilpheder, South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland. o:
1851 Recorded as a farm labourer in census.
......... +Mary MacInnes b: Abt. 1823 in South Uist m: 1854 in St Mary's RC Church, Bornish, Benbecula. d: Aft. 1881
........ 4 Catherine MacKinnon b: 1856 in Kilpheder, South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland.
........ 4 Peter MacKinnon b: Abt. 1858
........ 4 Angus MacKinnon b: Abt. November 1860
........ 4 Margaret 'Peggy' MacKinnon b: Abt. 1863
..... 3 Ewen MacKinnon b: Abt. 1821 o: 1851 Recorded as a Tailor living at Kilpheder
......... +Mary MacInnes b: Abt. 1823 in North Boisdale, South Uist m: January 24, 1847 in St Mary's RC Church, Bornish, South Uist.
........ 4 Lachlin MacKinnon b: 1850 in Kilpheder, South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland.
........ 4 Catharine MacKinnon b: 1852
........ 4 Mary MacKinnon b: Abt. 1856
........ 4 Donald MacKinnon b: Abt. 1859
........ 4 Alexander MacKinnon b: Abt. 1863
........ 4 Margaret MacKinnon b: Abt. 1867
........ 4 Colin MacKinnon b: Abt. 1869
........ 4 Meron MacKinnon b: Abt. 1873
..... 3 Alexander MacKinnon b: Bef. June 17, 1821
. 2 Ewen MacKinnon b: Abt. 1797 in South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland.
..... +Christina 'Kirsty' MacIntyre m: in Bornish, South Uist
. 2 Janet MacKinnon b: Abt. 1806 South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland d: 1871 South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland.
..... +Donald MacIntyre b: Abt. 1791 in South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland. m: 1823 in South Uist, died 1855 South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
I have just returned from a short break in the Uists last night.
Good hunting
Donm
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Hi Donm:
O.K. I'm very jealous, you do have quite a bit of information even though it is sketchy.
Did you go to Uist for research, and was there a lot of information readily available. I hear that the Outer Hebrides are very beautiful. I hope to travel there someday, before I croak, but I wanted to have more information first. Now that the airlines here in Canada have yet again hiked the fares it is becoming very expensive, so one trip is all I'll probably make.
I wish you every success in your hunt.
Lois
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Hi Lois
We went for a short holiday but we have made several visits since I started my research in 1992. My father and his ancestors came from Benbecula and South Uist. The MacKinnon family are just a small portion of my connections to the islands. Janet MacKinnon is my 3 x grandmother.
The Outer Hebrides are very beautiful and an extremely popular destination, as are the other areas of Scotland, for all kinds of tourists from all over the world. The weather can be quite fierce in the winter months but early Spring can be very good.
There are several websites which could provide some useful information for you including : -
http://www.southuist.com/index.php?action=readguestbook&set=3 where you will find someone researching MacKinnon amongst other names. It's a free website but you must join to view the members area. This is also another one which may provide some information http://www.uistonline.com/ Finally this may be your best website to find some of your MacKinnon connections http://catriona.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=catriona&view=9&rand=28091332
Good luck and I hope you manage to visit the islands.
Donm
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Hi Homebody
I have three lots of Mackinnons in my family tree, just to add to the confusion.As far as I can see they mostly came from Harris and Sleat. i think they might have moved around a bit too. I am thinking of getting intouch with Bill Lawson too, eventually.
Catherine
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Dear Mckinnon,
I've just started my family genealogy on PEI & understand our ancestors [Donald Mckinnon/Euphemia Maclean] came from Skye, Church of Scotland & were gaelic-speaking.
There were a staggering number of Donald Mckinnons that emigrated from Scotland & I will make a note of any from Barra.
I do know that a lot of people from Barra, settled in C.B.I., so you might find more info there?
www.automated genealogy.com is the best resource for the Canadian census.
www.islandregister.com has searchable family trees online.
Here is the link to PEI censuses & some birth certificate, etc.:
ttp://www.gov.pe.ca/cca/index.php3?number=1004626&lang=E
P.S.The reason I replied was your Macduff crest- my ggrandmother was a Macduff from Dumfriesshire- they are on the islandregister under the Johnstone family tree.
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Hi Lois
Just so know, I have some more McKinnons for you! My Gr Grand parents
Name: James McKINNON, GG Grandfather
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Birth: 10 Mar 1820 Isle Of Skye, Scotland4
Death: 1 Dec 1903 Barrington, NSW3, 13533
Death Memo: Cause: heart failure
Baptism: 1 May 1820 Sleat, Inverness, Scotland
Father: Lachlane McKINNON (1792-)
Mother: Jean CAMPBELL (1796-)
Marriage: 18 Aug 1861 10 Mile Station, Stroud, NSW2, 2713
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Spouse: Flora Anne McQUEEN, GG Grandmother
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Birth: 19 Mar 1839 Dunmore Station, Millers Forest NSW1, 82647
Death: 23 Jan 1903 Barrington, NSW3, 631
Death Memo: Cause: Senilty period decade
Father: Archibald McQUEEN
Mother: Christina ROSS (1800-1903)
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Name: Lachlane McKINNON, GGG Grandfather, 022
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Birth: 1792 Camstradden, Luss, Dunbarton, Scotland4, film:537395
Spouses:
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1: Jean CAMPBELL, GGG Grandmother, 0220
Birth: 1796 Camstradden, Luss, Dunbarton, Scotland4, film:537384
Father: James CAMPBELL
Mother: Margaret MACAULAY
Marriage: 5 Jan 1817 Camstradden, Luss, Dunbarton, Scotland4, 537395 pg 44
Children: Catherine "Kate" (1818-)
James, 021 (1820-1903)
Peggy (1822-1888)
Donald (1825-1898)
John (1827-
Allan (1830-1907)
Jane (1833-)
The son John b. in 1827 apparently immigrated to Ontario, Canada!! year unknown. Interesting! a connection perhaps who knows. I have nothing on him at all at the moment. Good luck with your McKinnons cheers from Oz, Vicki
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Hi Vicki:
Thanks for your reply. Thank goodness there are McKinnon's out there. It's nice to hear from all of you, hopefully someday there will be a common relative.
There are a lot of McKinnon's in Ontario, the biggest areas of immigrants in the early years seemed to come to Grey County, which is in the Lake Huron, Georgian Bay area in sort of central Ontario. The other area was at the east end of Ontario near the St. Lawrence River and Quebec in the area stretching from Glengarry to Frontenac.
I am located in the area called south-western Ontario about 100 kms. from Niagara Falls. Larger numbers of Scots emigrated to the Maritimes, especially Cape Breton and Prince Edward Island. Lots of McKinnon's down there, mostly from Skye and Argyll, a few from Barra, but sadly not related to mine.
Samevans1945 from P.E.I. also has MacKinnon's, but not related unfortunately. It's still great to hear from all of you though.
Who knows, maybe once I get past my personal brick-wall we may have a connection after all.
Thanks again:
Lois
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I also am looking for McKinnons. My group appears to come from Ontario into Michigan in the very late 1800's. John H. McKinnon (m. Ellen St. Onge), besides his VERY common first name has listed both his parents as Canadian born but I have no further infomation.
I did inherit some information stating that his father was David McKinnon and mother Julia Lament but this can not be verified anywhere.
If you happen to have any information on my side of the family, I would very much appreciate it.
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Hi Justanotherbody:
I know exactly how you feel, my McKinnon's had three brothers all named John in one spelling or another (Johnathan, John, Jonny). Extremely frustrating. I could only find one of them, and that was only because I found his obituary totally by surprise.
Do you have any dates to go along with those names, or a hint of location in Ontario? If so, I'll definitely keep an eye out for them. Where in Michigan did they end up?
I had many relatives in the McKinnon's around 1900 that migrated to Michigan, Detroit in particular, where some of their decendants are still.
Regards:
Lois
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My McKinnons are in Alpena county Michigan...
dates:
John b. c.1877
m. 1896 to Ellen St. Onge (b.1882)
John H. came over to Michigan in 1889 according to the 1910 census or 1883 according to the 1920 census. His wife came over in 83 so that could be the reason for that confusion.
Thanks for any help.
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Hi Again:
O.K. Keeping my eyes open for you.
Regards:
Lois
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Thanks a bunch, much appreciated.
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Hi. I am looking for a McKinnon family from Dalry, Ayr, Scotland. John and Isabella were on the Glenlora June 1879 to New Zealand. They lived in Darfield and Springfield near Christchurch. They arrived with children James 6, John 4, William 2 and Sarah infant. 5 more children were born in New Zealand. John was a ganger on the Midland Line when the railway to the West Coast was being built. Hope you can help. Jeanie Rose
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Hi, i've just started on the mackinnon line in my tree and its proving very difficult. there isn't that much data around for 1700's and then when u try and read the gros searches some are really faded. I did have a bit of luck, I did a search for colin mctavish born in mull in the 1700's but the parents were wrong so left it. then when i was doing something else i accidentally spent my last 5 credits on the viewing the unwanted search, but found out that naughty old Martin McPhaiden had a son in fornication (no name of the mother) born three months after this first daughter. i was quite pleased even though at the time i was annoyed with myself. Enough raving.
My Mackinnon is a Marion who married a Martin McPhaiden (and all the variations in spelling). I have no idea who her parents were. Don't know if Marion married Martin McPhaiden (no luck in searches). Their first child Catherine was born 2 Aug 1794 at Cameron, Moy, Torosay as was Martin's son Donald on 16 Nov 1794.
Then the only other info. I have on Marion (maybe) is that she is in Oban in 1841, independent and her first name is Sarah McFayden, living with Charles (son and Casstie but it would be Cirsty, her daughter).
Going on the names of the other children I assuming Marion's father could have been called Donald, Hector or Neil or John. Sarah.
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Hi Homebody - Have you seen this site? http://www.kithandkinfamilytree.com/ - dedicated to Neil McKinnon (ex Barra, Scotland) and Hannah McDonald, Prince Edward Island, Canada and their descendants. I'm just starting on my own trek, so very new to this, but this site seemed to contain a lot of well-researched info and links to McKinnon family trees.
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Hi Lois - From your interest (names) Drysdales etc from Clackmannan, there are also McKinnons mainly around the Alva area, the earliest I have thought is Peter c1829 born Ryend Perthshire.
Regards patvp
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to this board and found it while googling :) . I'm a MacKinnon from my father's side and would love to trace my family roots back and I have very little information to go on. My grandfather Lachlan MacKinnon was from the Isle of Skye and I think he was born sometime in the 1890's. He fought during WWI in the cavalry. I believe he had a few brothers, the only brother's name I know is John MacKinnon (I was told he was the bagpipe player of the family). I would love to learn more about my grandfather's family and parents and geneology. My grandmother was Margaret McKinnon (maiden name was spelled McKinnon - so they were both MacKinnons prior to their marriage....) from Larkhall. She was also born I believe sometime in the 1890's. I have no information about her family but do know she had brothers and sisters. but would love to trace her geneology as well. Thanks in advance for any help!
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i just got a bit more information from ancestry.com! My grandfather Lachlan was born in 1887. :)
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Hi Maggie
Welcome to RootsChat :)
You need to be able to verify and confirm your ancestors through other sources. As you can see, there are always a number of possibilities for entries on censuses.
Have you got your father's birth cert which would include full details on his parents' names, including their marriage date which is normally shown on the birth cert?
I can't easily see a Lachlan and Margaret McKinnon (with wild cards for spelling variations) marriage on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, the official pay to view site for BMDs for Scotland.
Monica
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thank you Monica :) Unfortunately I don't have my father's birth certificate - am still trying to get a copy. I'll keep looking. thanks again for your message.
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Hi everyone: Sorry I haven't gotten back to anyone until now, but was away on a vacation to the Yukon and Northwest Terratories. I had so many brick walls that I sort of packed it away until I could give it more time. I'm glad to see that other McKinnon's are coming forward. I will be looking at that web-site that Jenac suggested, and Patvp1, I did see some McKinnon's around Alva, but none seemed to match, also my McKinnon and Drysdale didn't meet until both were in Canada. I recently met a cousin that I hadn't seen in years, and she had some photos that I had never seen before. My Grandmother Drysdale looked like a prim and proper young lady, and Grandad McKinnon looked like a slightly roguish charmer. I wonder how they met. Even though I haven't reached my goal, I have found some distant relatives who are now interested in the search also. I hope it will lead to some more details coming forward, but the McKinnon's are a secretive bunch. Thanks to everyone who continues to help. Lois
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My auntie married into the MacKinnons from Harris. All i know is that there is Sandy, Chrissy, Donald John and ronny. They all stay in a small area called scadabay which is there family are.
my auntie mary-ann maccuish was married to donald john mackinnon, they never had any children.
im interested in any other information that anybody knows about that family
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Am new to this Genealogy so bear with me. I have Mackinnons in my husbands family but they were from South Uist.
Marion Mackinnon born about 1834 her father was a Donald and I think the mother was a Marion ........... Marion married a Donald Maclean about 1854 in South Uist some of the info comes from the Family Search site. Any further info of Marions parents or even info on Donald Macleans parents would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
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Hi
Have just spent a long time tracing back the McKinnon / Mackinnon line in my family.
Donald b. about 1780 and Catherine (Livingstone) b. about 1785 lived in Inverness shire / Lanarkshire. They had 13 children, Neil b. about 1801, Margaret, Charles b. August 1804, Ann, Flora b. 1806, Donald, Mary, Hector b. 6 June 1814, Janet b. 18 January 1817, Catherine b. 12 September 1819, John b. 15 December 1807 Duncan and Nancy). Catherine and Donald are recorded as having died in Canada.
Their 6th son, John left Scotland for London.
John married Susanna Charlotte Sheldrake Curtis b. 1808 on 20th May 1830 at St Martins in the Field, Westminster, London.
John and Susanna had 5 children, 4 girls and a boy, William b. 1842. Girls were Margaret b. 1839, Emma b. 1841, Marian b. 1855 and Susannah b. 1849. They lived in the Islington / Clerkenwell area of London throughout their lives. John died in 1870. Susanna died in April 1890.
William married Charlotte Smith on 27 September 1868 in Islington, London, and they had eight children. William James b. 1870, Charles b. 1872, Charlotte b. 1874, Rose b. 1876, Arthur b. 1879, Amy b. 1880, Florence b. 1882 and May / Mary b. 1885. Census information for 1881 suggests they were all living at 22, Goswell Street, London. It also suggests that William's mother Susanna lived with them, as did Susanna's older sister Mary Ann Curtis b. 1796. Mary Ann seems to have lived well into her 80's.
William James married Rose Alice Bedford and they had three sons that I could find. William Herbert b. 1897, Ernest Charles b. 1898 and Albert Arthur b. 30.12.1899. Ernest is recorded as serving in the Great war, though survived and died in Merseyside, England in 1996 aged 98 years.
Albert Arthur was my maternal grandfather. He married Jane Ann Edmond in 1937 and died in 1972. Jane died in 2002.
Albert Arthur had two children, Albert b. 1936 and Anne b.1940. Anne is my mother.
Albert emigrated to America in the 1960's and is now retied and I believe living in New York. He had no children.
Anne married Percy Thomas Willson Smith and had four children, Anthony, David, Sarah (me) and Georgina. I have one son, James.
So, if you are a direct descendent of Donald and Catherine McKinnon who emigrated to Canada, then I guess we are related !!
Other bits I picked up are that for some reason McKinnon became Mackinnon after John moved to London.
William James' occupation is noted as 'stereotyper (journeyman)' which apparently means he was a printer and on the lowest level of membership at the printers guild.
One of the census also notes that William James had a servant.
Most of William James' children appear to have married.
Arthur married Frances Caroline Denerley on 16.01.1904
Amy married Herbert Charles Green on 14.07.1907
Rose married John Samuel Hardwidge on 18.05.1901
Florence married Arthur Andrew Bolt on 22.08.1908
William James married Rose Alice Bedford
Would love to hear what happened to the McKinnons' who went to Canada.
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Hi to anyone still looking for McKinnons. I have a possible McKinnon ancestor I'm looking at. I've got a Christina/Christy McKinnon who was married to Alexander Grant and had children Donald, Mary and Ann. I don't know a lot more about Christina I'm afraid. Any help appreciated.
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Hope this helps someone - data I have collected whilst doing my own MacKinnon line although I haven't found a connection with this lot but there are names in this list connected to me either through my Steele or Cumming lines.
Descendants of Colin MacKinnon
Generation No. 1
1. Colin1 MacKinnon He married Mary MacInnes 1855 in South Uist, Inverness, Scotland1.
Child of Colin MacKinnon and Mary MacInnes is:
+ 2 i. Peter2 MacKinnon, born Abt. 1858; died Abt. 1917.
Generation No. 2
2. Peter2 MacKinnon (Colin1) was born Abt. 1858, and died Abt. 1917. He married (1) Ann MacIsaac 1889 in Boisdale, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland2,3, daughter of Roderick MacIsaac and Mary MacIntyre. She was born Abt. 1859 in 333 Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland, and died Abt. 1890. He married (2) Ann MacIntyre 21 Nov 1892 in Boisdale, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland4, daughter of Angus MacIntyre and Catherine MacIntyre. She was born Abt. 1870 in Howmore, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland.
Notes for Ann MacIsaac:
Ann may have died with problems subsequent to childbirth as the dates are coincidental? More research will determine my thoughts.
Marriage Notes for Peter MacKinnon and Ann MacIsaac:
Peter later married Ann's half 1st cousin once removed, Ann MacIntyre.
Child of Peter MacKinnon and Ann MacIsaac is:
3 i. Christina3 MacKinnon, born Abt. 1889. She married John MacDonald 02 Oct 1917 in Eriskay, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland; born Abt. 1878 in 11 Bunavulin, Eriskay, Scotland.
Children of Peter MacKinnon and Ann MacIntyre are:
4 i. Colin3 MacKinnon, born 02 Sep 1894 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
+ 5 ii. Catherine MacKinnon, born Abt. 1896 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland; died Unknown.
6 iii. Angus MacKinnon, born Abt. 1898 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
7 iv. Angus MacKinnon, born Abt. 1900 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
8 v. Mary Kate MacKinnon, born Abt. 1901 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
9 vi. John MacKinnon, born Abt. 1903 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
10 vii. Mary Ann MacKinnon, born Abt. 1905 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
Generation No. 3
5. Catherine3 MacKinnon (Peter2, Colin1) was born Abt. 1896 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland, and died Unknown. She married (1) Alexander MacIntyre Abt. 1916, son of Archibald MacIntyre and Marion MacLellan. He was born Abt. 1888 in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland. She married (2) John MacIsaac 07 Dec 1921 in St. Patrick's Church, Anderston Glasgow, Scotland5, son of Neil MacIsaac and Isabella MacIntyre. He was born 24 Apr 1885 in Haun, Eriskay, Boisdale, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland, and died Unknown.
Notes for Catherine MacKinnon:
Catherine's mother was Margaret MacDougall but her father was widowed and remarried Catherine Campbell and on her marriage certificate she has her mother down as Catherine MacDougall but Catherine was her step - mother.
Children of Catherine MacKinnon and Alexander MacIntyre are:
11 i. Female4 MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
Dii.
12 ii. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
+ 13 iii. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
+ 14 iv. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
+ 15 v. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
16 vi. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
Immigrated to Australia.
17 vii. Male MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
Moved to Nairn, Scotland.
+ 18 viii. Female MacIntyre, born in 295 Kilpheder, Boisdale, South Uist, Scotland.
Child of Catherine MacKinnon and John MacIsaac is:
+ 19 i. Male Alexander4 MacIsaac (Catherine3 MacKinnon, Peter2, Colin1) was born in 7 East Kilbride, Boisdale, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland.
More in next post as there was not enough room.
Anne Marie.
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If anyone wants to PM me with their email address I will be happy to send a report on the Colin MacKinnon & Mary MacInnes line.
Anne Marie.
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Hi Anne and RoddyRabbit
You both need to take some care with posting on the open forum details of people who may still be alive. Given what has been mentioned and the dates of births, likely some will be. RootsChat is not a forum for posting details about living people to protect their identity (security etc.).
Would be good if you could edit (just click 'modify' button on your posts) to take out details of people who are still living :)
Many thanks for your co-operation :)
Monica
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My William & his son John McKinnon first appear in Kilmonivaig in Invernesshire in 1822. I believe they came from Skye before that but I cannot find the evidence.
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Hi all M(a)cKinnons – mine are South Uist. I don’t see a definite connection with Isobel (Yet) but a possible!
I have a few wee snippets that all in the discussion will /should find a wee bit helpful hopefully or have you running to the nearest hills faster than a 3 legged Haggis?
I realise this is an old post but I will add to it in the hope it may be of help to others if you have all managed to advance since.
Lois
After careful consideration and some educated guess work, I decided that both censuses were very likely to be the same family. Having established that Chirsty MacIntyre was the “Cottar” in 1841 it would seem she has passed away within the following 10yrs and the croft would pass to “Son-in-Law" Donald. So, assuming Catherine’s maiden name was MacIntyre, I looked for Marriage & Births/Baptisms under MacKinnon/MacIntyre partnership and “Bingo”!
My thoughts are that Mary (20) Farm Servant is Chirsty’s daughter, i.e. Catherine’s sister.
Donald MacKinnon & Catherine MacIntyre
Although I did not find Donald & Catherine’s union in marriage it may just have been left out as was the “norm” back then as entries were not done at the time of the occasion but filled in at a later date with several entries at a time. The info. I have is also incomplete.
Kids – (All born Bruernish, Barra)
All Baptisms recorded at Craigston, Barra (spellings as per transcriptions)
Anne b 21 Apr 1837 baptised 24 Apr
John b 10 Oct 1839 “ 12 Oct
Eion b 26 Dec 1840 “ 28 Dec (Eion/Ewen/Evan/Hugh)
Mary b 04 Sep 1844 “ 12 Sep
Isobel
Marion MacKinnon – c1824 – c1901 (Marion’s father was John), mother unknown at this time but her death cert. may throw up the answer. Problem with a lot of my older generations the mother’s maiden names are often unknown. When you find out her name I would be very interested to compare notes.
Donald MacLean b Jan 1830, Milton, Howmore, S/U baptised 05 Jan – died unknown. (Father Donald, Mother Mary O’Henley)
Married 05 Feb 1854 – Bornish. At time of marriage Donald was living in Garrynamonie, Boisdale, S/U & Marion was living in Lochboisdale, Boisdale, S/U
They had 7 offspring, and I’m wondering from which one you are descended?
Marion/Sarah?
Someone mentioned about Marion being Sarah in 2 different census records. This was very common (as I found out yrs ago) but mind boggling as there is no obvious likeness. However, just to add to the confusion I will list other variants.
Marion/Merron/Merrion/Sarah/Sara/Sorcha/Clara/Una – sources verified in my own tree!!!!
Lois,
You mention us MacKinnon's being a secretave lot. My guess is that your 1st generation had no English, only the Gaelic tongue and it was a case of history being lost through not being able to communicate???
One last thing on the SP searching. If not sure of a name for certain leave forename box blank or only put in the 1st initial. I was searching my grandmother, known to me as Maggie Jean so "assumed" her to be Margaret Jane or Janet as my grandmother was Janet. SP must have thought they had hit the jackpot with me that day as I tried every name variation thinkable until my patience ran out and left it blank and hit on it no problem. Turned out her name was (and this is the actual spelling/written) - Maggy-Jane (no space)!!!! The last thing I would have thought of.
Regards,
Anne Marie (MacKinnon)
P.S. Do let me know if anyone managed to glean anything from my posting please.
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My granny was Flora mckinnon born to Angus Young mckinnon. She was born in tumbulgum northern nsw.
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If it helps, there are over 4,000 McKinnon names on the WikiTree site.
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/McKinnon
Plus over 2,000 MacKinnon
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/MacKinnon
Good searching!
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I am the descendant of Catherine McKinnon who apparently came from Peinchorran on the Isle of Skye and John Smith who apparently came from Stornoway on the Isle of Lewis. This is what I found.
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Name Catherine Smith
Birth 1787 Punkurson
Residence 1851 city, Argyll, Scotland New
Spouse John Smith
1841 Scotland Census
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Name Catherine McKinnon
Birth 1786 Inverness, Scotland
Residence 1841 township, Inverness, Scotland
Unfortunately, due to the fact that I don't subscribe to Ancestry.com I am not sure which township she lived in in 1841. Would anyone know?
Below is what my cousin wrote to me:
"I know she was married in 1825 in Greenock to John Smith child Marion born 1829 then sometime later the family moved to live in Argyll I found them there living in Carrick".
John Smith was a fisherman for a period.
They appear to only have had one child and her name was Marion Smith.
Marion had Scottish born descendants, but then they started to immigrate to New Zealand, while the Scottish side either remained in Scotland or moved to England.
That all said we cannot find Catherine McKinnon's birth certificate so I am thinking I wonder if she was Roman Catholic and if those records were destroyed some how.
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Just read Rosinish's post (but didn't know how to reply to her post directly) and I too have the surname MacIntyre somewhere in my ancestry I believe, but as yet haven't figured out where this line came from. My great grandmother's name was Mary MacIntyre Greaves and she descends from the MacKinnon's of Skye.
Was wondering too from Rosinish's post what a "cotar" was?
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I've been told by a cousin that one of the male relatives of Catherine MacKinnon was kidnapped and made to work on a boat (shanghaied). We have no idea of his name, but would love to know who he was and where he ended up.
I know sometimes back in the 1800s people's surnames would get changed to what their master's surname was. I'm hoping this isn't the case, in relation to my distant ancestoral uncle or cousin.
Does anyone know where you can find out the names of boats, that the kidnapped male Islanders were forced to work on? Kind of wondering if they ended up in Jamaica, as I have a 4th to 6th cousin who is partially black American but somehow we are connected through DNA.
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There are far better sources for Scottish records than Ancestry, which has only transcriptions and indexes. See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
John Smith and Catherine McKinnon were married in Greenock in 1825. The original marriage record is available at Scotland's People (SP) www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
There are records from the 1841 and 1851 censuses of a family at Lochgoilhead, Argyll who appear to match your information. The screenshots are from https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl which has very much better transcriptions than those on Ancestry.
(Goodness alone knows where Ancestry's notoriously inept transcribers got 'Punkurson' from)
You can, and indeed should, view images of the original handwritten documents at SP.