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Title: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Wednesday 09 April 08 21:17 BST (UK): Help,
Can anyone have a go at restoring this picture, Found rolled up in my fathers paperwork. It was too big for an a4 scanner so I did two halves and joined them, plus a bit seems to have been incorrectly stuck on, on the right.

Thanks
Allan
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Post by: trellisick on Thursday 10 April 08 02:47 BST (UK): i only wish i could do justice to this photograph, kali.(http://)
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Post by: cazza59 on Thursday 10 April 08 03:02 BST (UK): What an amazing, simply amazing photo!!

Kali you've done a fab job. 8)

I've started to restore it but it will take sometime.

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: cazza59 on Thursday 10 April 08 10:17 BST (UK): Hi Alan

Sorry, this is the best I can do without going blind!! :P :P :P :P

Unfortunately there is so much damage and very little definition to work with, plus manipulation in Photoshop doesn't help.

If you would like to send me the large uncompressed version via email, I'll give it another go.

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: Woodentop50 on Thursday 10 April 08 13:56 BST (UK): It just shows you , how strong those planes were , there are 64 men on those wings ! :o Jim :o
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Post by: woolley on Thursday 10 April 08 19:34 BST (UK): To Kali and Caz,

I look on in total disbelief at the work you have done in such a short time.
Only one word for them is "EXCELLENT" ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks to both of you

Woolley

ps I spent weeks trying but failed every time
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Post by: Beard grandchild on Thursday 10 April 08 21:12 BST (UK): Wow - I can't believe the work you folks have put into this one. I saw it posted on my last night's visit , and couldn't imagine anything being done with it. Superb job.
Do you know the story behind the photo Woolley?
Cheers, Pat
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Post by: trellisick on Friday 11 April 08 01:19 BST (UK): caz, i just cannot believe the job you have done on this one, i think the guy's in this pic deserve to to be remembered & honoured, i tried my best ( under the influence ) until very late in the morning but eventualy had to give up, you obviously have perseviered and done a proper job and done all them young men proud,
what an amazing photograph, i hope it will now take pride of place in somewhere like the british war museum, never to be lost to the lack of respect again, most of the boys depicted probably never survived, you have done a marvelous job caz, love it, kali.
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Post by: trellisick on Friday 11 April 08 01:24 BST (UK): woolley if you have any info about this pic i would be very interested, thanks, kali.
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Post by: cazza59 on Friday 11 April 08 01:53 BST (UK): Thank you Kali, and I totally share your sentiments about this photo. Apart from the amazing composition itself, the first thought that occurred to me was how many of these wonderful men and women made it home (there are ladies seated in the front row).

I think it's an absolute treasure and like you feel it belongs in a museum. I could have happily spent a week working on this one, which would be a very small sacrifice to honour their memory.

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: trellisick on Friday 11 April 08 02:03 BST (UK): spot on caz my sentiments exactly, if i had the time and talent i would work on it forever,
some of of my old work mates survived the hell of the last war some as rear gunners in the lancasters, told me stories that you can't even imagine, every single one of them people that lived through them times deserve a huge accolade. you done a cracking job on that photo caz, kali.
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Post by: cazza59 on Friday 11 April 08 02:08 BST (UK): I can't even begin to imagine what they went through. :'(

Caz
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Post by: trellisick on Friday 11 April 08 02:13 BST (UK): lets hope we never get to know, and now to bed, g'nite, kali.
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Post by: woolley on Friday 11 April 08 17:06 BST (UK): Thanks for the interest shown Caz and Kali,

Too many people tried to distance themselves from this conflict and I share you opinion that their sacrifice should be properly remembered.

The only knowledge I have is that my father joined the RAF late 1942 and he is on that picture, He said it was at RAF Binbrook but who knows, Binbrook was home to the RAAF in 1943.
He once told me that Polish aircrew were at the base.

Apart from a few other photos of the base thats the extent of my knowledge, don't you wished you'd asked when you had the chance.

Caz If you still want the original, whats the Max size for E=mail attachments

Cheers Woolley
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Post by: Stefan Woolf on Friday 11 April 08 17:08 BST (UK): Yes a phrnomenal photo, and one that took some staging.

I'd also love to hear the story behind it.

I don't think I'd want to be one of those on the outer edge of the wings. It looks a bit too much like those lined up dominos things. If one near the fuselage stumbles, then they are all going over!

Stef.
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Post by: silvery on Friday 11 April 08 18:11 BST (UK): Fabulous restore.

It is a BIG picture too. Being as we're restricted with printer size I wonder if someone like genealogy printers could get it out on a really large sheet, so that it could go to a place with room to hang it, museum, RAF. I'm sure loads of places would love to get their hands on a copy.
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Post by: Polldoll on Friday 11 April 08 19:07 BST (UK): Blimey :o :o How did I miss this ..Fabulous pic ... wow ...GREAT RESTORES Caz and Kali ...Ooh I 'd love a big ...I mean real big copy of it woolley please.. I can accept up to 10 mbs ...I'll pm you ..
Poll
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Post by: woolley on Friday 11 April 08 19:18 BST (UK): Hi POLLDOLL,
I did the original at 600dpi in two halves, both added upto 18MB will try at 1200dpi and attempt to get both under 10mb.

Cheers

Woolley
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Post by: Polldoll on Friday 11 April 08 19:37 BST (UK): You can send me the two halves on separate emails ...that would be better still ... ! ;)
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Post by: scrimnet on Friday 11 April 08 20:00 BST (UK): Very nice pic and an excellent restore!!!

I'll have to put some of my old military pics up the way things are going!!!!

Anyways...I was pointed over here by the fact that someone wanted to know the aircraft...

It's an Avro Lancaster, possibly a BIII.

The shape of the wings, the props and the air intakes to the engines are giveaways. The mass and style of perspex is also a pointer.

Pics like this were (and still are!) quite popular...

Many years of making Airfix kits...both as a youngster myself, and with my young Padawan...(10yrs old...)
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Post by: Thudnut on Friday 11 April 08 21:48 BST (UK): Absolutely superb photograph and, stunning restoration.

I wonder if it is a photograph of 12 Squadron?

http://raf-lincolnshire.info/12sqn/12sqn.htm

http://www.rafcommands.currantbun.com/Bomber/12B.html

http://www.12sqn.net/

Thudders
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Post by: scrimnet on Friday 11 April 08 21:56 BST (UK): Actually my first thought was Skellingthorpe...
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Post by: Thudnut on Friday 11 April 08 22:00 BST (UK): Did think of that, but went for 12 Sqn due to Wooley's father mentioning RAF Binbrook.
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Post by: woolley on Friday 11 April 08 22:17 BST (UK): Hi Thudnut,

Been following with interrest.
Memories a fickle thing but I followed your link and 626 immediately clicked.
Woolley
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Post by: scrimnet on Friday 11 April 08 22:23 BST (UK): I only said Skellie because I lived there once!!!
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Post by: woolley on Friday 11 April 08 22:26 BST (UK): If it is wickenby it would be nice to send a copy to their website

Woolley
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Post by: Thudnut on Friday 11 April 08 22:29 BST (UK): Glad one of the links helped Woolley.

You might like to take a look at these then:

http://homepage.virgin.net/dave.stapleton9/626%20Squadron.htm

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/h626.html

http://www.rafwmm.flyer.co.uk/

Thudders
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Post by: woolley on Friday 11 April 08 22:44 BST (UK): Ive e mailed that website(rafwmm), it looks like they have quite a few pictures, so with a bit of luck they might have a copy, who Knows

Woolley
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Post by: trellisick on Saturday 12 April 08 00:52 BST (UK): the interest shown for this photo is really great and deserved, i hope the brill restore caz has done takes pride of place in numerous raf naffi's or clubs, what a cracking picture, kali
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Post by: cazza59 on Saturday 12 April 08 02:46 BST (UK): Hi Woolley

I'll send you a PM with my email address. It will take me a few days to do but I think it would be nice to be able to send a copy to any relevant parties. I photo this wonderful deserves to be shared.

Cheers
Caz

PS Thanks to everyone for their comments, greatly appreciated. :-* :-*

PPS Woolley if you do happen to find someone with a copy, if it needs restoring, please point them my way, I'd be honoured! ;) ;D
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Post by: Flakdodger on Saturday 12 April 08 22:14 BST (UK): Here you are folks, go to:
http://cas.awm.gov.au/TST2/cst.acct_master?surl=2133423779ZZXCRHXVGMEX25109&stype=2&simplesearch=&v_umo=&v_product_id=&screen_name=&screen_parms=&screen_type=RIGHT&bvers=4&bplatform=Microsoft%20Internet%20Explorer&bos=Win32,
where you will see this photo listed on the Australian War Memorial photographic database.
460 Squadron it is (a very famous unit). The Australians can be identified by their dark blue uniforms.
The aeroplane pictured is also famous, Lancaster BI serial number W4783 "G for George". It is preserved at the Canberra Museum.
Cheers
Dave
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Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 12 April 08 22:33 BST (UK): Well...That is the one I looked for on the Airfix site...It is actually in the young Padawans bedroom...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/037e/

But the picture is missing...
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Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 12 April 08 22:35 BST (UK): It's labeled as a BIII

I think they meant Mk1 (BIII)
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Post by: scrimnet on Saturday 12 April 08 22:38 BST (UK): Here's another pic...Actually the box art for G-George

http://www.rootschat.com/links/037f/
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Post by: Flakdodger on Saturday 12 April 08 22:52 BST (UK): Hello Scrimnet,
fancy meeting you here.
Lanc Is and IIIs are identical save for the BIII being fitted with American Packard Merlin engines. (Rolls Royce could not meet demand).
Visually, the key to whether a Lanc is a I or a III is by clocking the serial number.
In the case of this Lanc, it was part of a batch built by Metropolitan-Vickers (Metrovik) between September 1942 and May 1943. All were Mark Is except for the last 30 which were fitted with Packard Merlins.
Cheers
Dave
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Post by: PaulaToo on Sunday 13 April 08 00:33 BST (UK): What an absolutely fantastic picture...
As for the restores.........lost for words.
Amazin' about sums it up.
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Post by: woolley on Sunday 13 April 08 18:29 BST (UK): To Scimnet and Flakdodger,

I think the mystery is solved, compare this photo

http://www.yoshiwara.org.uk/photos/index.php?spgmGal=Airfields/Binbrook2&spgmPic=24&spgmFilters=#pic

to one i've just unearthed , dad wasn't aircrew but groundcrew

Woolley
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 18:57 BST (UK): I'm working on your big pic Woolley but it's taken me about 7 hours to do just this little bit working pixel by pixel ... so I ' thought I 'd just let you see the progress so far ... The saying, " I may be some time !!" comes to mind ... :o :o ;D ;D
Poll Here is before ....
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 19:00 BST (UK): Here's what I've done so far ...not a lot to show for all that is it ? :-\ ;D
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Post by: woolley on Sunday 13 April 08 19:12 BST (UK): It looks terrific so far Poll

It doesn't matter how long it takes, just be careful of your your eyesight doing it.

Can't wait to see it finished though :D :D

Woolley
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 13 April 08 19:47 BST (UK): Poll....

In a word....

Astounding...
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 20:25 BST (UK): It's certainly a challenge ;D ;D I am only doing a few hours at a time though ... eyes are precious and I know how long I can manage at a time now ... .. so thanks for your concern Woolley ... ;)
Scrimnet I have been most impressed with your expertise on things military . Is there an area tha you specialise in ?
Poll
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Post by: woolley on Sunday 13 April 08 20:50 BST (UK): Sorry for the delay just got back in from walking the dogs.
I don't tend to specialise, just read everything I can on what interests me at the moment, bit of a butterfly mind really. Things military is only recent due to family research and finding out that some of my ancestors were in the armed services in some capacity or other.

By the way I've now found a really tatty record which states that he suffered a broken leg at Binbrook in Nov 1944, so I had the answer all along without realising it

Woolley
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 13 April 08 21:43 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 20:25 BST (UK)
It's certainly a challenge ;D ;D I am only doing a few hours at a time though ... eyes are precious and I know how long I can manage at a time now ... .. so thanks for your concern Woolley ... ;)
Scrimnet I have been most impressed with your expertise on things military . Is there an area tha you specialise in ?
Poll

Oooh Poll...I'm blushing!! :-[

Yes it is something I do a lot of...

I have been in the Big Green Machine for a while now, on and off...and I do lectures and battlefield tours for the boys and girls...

My main areas of interest are The Northamptonshire Regt, Army Medical Services, and The Royal Anglian Regt...(I was a Poacher before I re badged)

I also do a lot of WW1 and 2 stuff...
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 22:33 BST (UK): Oh wow jUST THE MAN i'M LOOKING FOR ...have sent you a pm !! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 13 April 08 22:47 BST (UK): Oh gosh!!

It's a while since a woman said that to me!!! :o :o

Email sent.... ;)
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Post by: Flakdodger on Sunday 13 April 08 22:57 BST (UK): Woolley,
thank you for sharing the snowball photo, it is a lovely item. You can bet the poor chap with the camera "got it" once the photo was taken. Except from the lad on the right who is glued to his cup of char.
On the original Squadron photo, I dedect an 'X' by the man extreme right on the wing.
Was this your father? - and is he in the snowball group?
Cheers
Dave
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Post by: Flakdodger on Sunday 13 April 08 22:58 BST (UK): Tread with care....strange women and Airfix kits don't mix :o :o
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 13 April 08 23:02 BST (UK): Quote from: Flakdodger on Sunday 13 April 08 22:58 BST (UK)
Tread with care....strange women and Airfix kits don't mix :o :o

Oooh they have done mate....Didn't I say I used to go out with a model ;D
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 23:09 BST (UK): Oi Flakdodger :o :o Who are you calling STRANGE???? ??? ???
Poll ;) ;D
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Post by: Flakdodger on Sunday 13 April 08 23:16 BST (UK): Love and kisses Polldoll, :-* :-* :-*
I was just a bit concerned about my mate Scrimnet going off the rails. Years of sniffing polystyrene cement can do odd things to a chap.
(I know)
Dave
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 13 April 08 23:29 BST (UK): He's being the perfect gent and helping me with my research !!!! ;D .. Meanwhile ... there is an arrow pointing to the last man on the wing ( right wing as you look at it ) and also marks, pointing to 7 or 8 men to his left ... were they all mates !!?
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Post by: cazza59 on Monday 14 April 08 00:09 BST (UK): Looks like we are both going to end up with bad eyes Poll. I've started on the larger version as well, but I'm going to keep you all in suspense and won't post it until it's finished. ;D ;D

I will of course email a full size one to you Woolley.

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: cazza59 on Monday 14 April 08 01:26 BST (UK): Have to say what a difference working on the full scan is...the detail that has been preserved is brill, makes my job a lot easier!!!

Caz
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Post by: Treetotal on Monday 14 April 08 08:21 BST (UK): I've just seen this one..what an amazing photo this is....I'd kill to own one that 8) 8) 8)
I have to say Caz that is a real spectacular piece of work there :o :o :o :o.. and not a sign of lippy anywhere ;D ;D ;D
It must have taken you hours...I do hope we get to see the finished work from the larger scan 8)
If I don't hear from you for a while...I'll know were you can be found....buried under the squadron leader :P :P :P :P :P
Carol
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Post by: cazza59 on Monday 14 April 08 09:01 BST (UK): ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Thanks Carol. Can you point the squadron leader out to me, I seem to have lost him in the crowd!!! ;D ;D ;D

I have to say I wish I had the larger scan in the first place. The detail is brilliant and not only that, it's soooooooo much easier working with the larger scan as the guess work has been taken out of it and the pic really copes with the manipulation. ( Think I might get everyone in future to email me a larger scan first!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D)

Have to say it's coming up a treat but I'm taking my time, I want this to be as special as I can make it.

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: Polldoll on Monday 14 April 08 10:03 BST (UK): Hi Caz I agree It is a brilliant scan ..I'm sure your restore will be well worth waiting for .I am looking forward to seeing it ... hey ... shall we do a coloured one too? :o ;D At least it should keep us out of mischief for a while !! ;)
Poll
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Post by: cazza59 on Monday 14 April 08 10:51 BST (UK): Hiya Poll

I'd be lying if I said the thought of colouring it hadn't crossed my mind, but I think we would need to call in the experts first. I'm amazed at how good the scan is :o :o which has also highlighted a few different uniforms. Once we've posted our restores, if the armed services gurus could indicate which colours to use, then perhaps we should give it a go. Mind you, I think we've got rocks in our heads, do you know how many brass buttons we're going to have to colour !!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Caz
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 14 April 08 11:03 BST (UK): Flakdodger and I are awaiting in the wings, like greyhounds in the slips... ;D
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Post by: cazza59 on Monday 14 April 08 11:12 BST (UK): ;D Knew we could rely on you! Not sure on Poll's progress, but mine's still got quite a bit to go but when we're ready, we'll call upon your expertise! There appears to be a couple of uniform types, some light and some dark uniforms, as well as jumpsuits (probably the wrong terminology but I'm sure you'll forgive me!!) ;D ;D

Cheers
Caz
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Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 14 April 08 11:12 BST (UK): ....and I'm hanging on every message that is posted....because I am just in awe, first of the picture itself, and then what has happened to it so far...
Just longing to see what happens next.
Take care, eyes first, photo second.
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Post by: Beard grandchild on Monday 14 April 08 12:18 BST (UK): I'm sure that there are quite a lot of us out here following this one in total awe of you restorers. To tackle something of this size must be more than a challenge.
I keep scanning the faces, as I have a photo of a Pilot, killed in WW2, who flew from one of the Lincolnshire bases. He and my Mother were engaged, but apart from "Ginger", I have no name,no details, just a photo. Another of these - if only we had asked when she was alive - situations.
I live in hope that, one day Ginger will appear on someone elses photos, and that, from there, we might discover who he really was!
Cheers,
Pat.
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Post by: Treetotal on Monday 14 April 08 12:38 BST (UK): Hi Woolly....I am watching this with interest too....I see you have Rowland in your tree...I have Rowlands going from Chester To Yorkshire in the 1890s...who knows...I may be able to stake my claim in this wonder piece of history.
This sight is interesting and there is a request for photos.
Carol

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/binbrook.htm

http://raf-lincolnshire.info/binbrook/binbrook.htm
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Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 14 April 08 13:00 BST (UK): Beard grandchild,
You have Ginger, I have Uncle Harry...
It is one of the photos in my mother's collection and one of the reasons I joined RootsChat.
Mum told me it was her Uncle Harry, who was in the merchant marine, and he was drowned....
Through the wonderful people on here I have had the photo restored, and I now know he was a Petty Office 2nd class, R N. The photo was taken in Valparaiso 1880-1900.
So he was not in the Merchant Marine...and he wasn't Uncle Harry, either...Mother didn't have an uncle Harry/Henry or anything like...........

The plot as they say, ~~thickens~~....sickens
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Post by: Polldoll on Monday 14 April 08 15:18 BST (UK): I had thought about the buttons and badges Caz :o :o :o ;D ...As you said ...we must have rocks in our heads!! ;D ;D It will be a while as you say so I just hope we can keep the interest going.... ;) so as you say ... colours need to be authenic Air force colours commensurate with the times ... so c'mon guys give us some pics to ensure we get the right colours for the technicolour version ! phew ...next, you lot will be wanting to know all their names too :o ;D ;D !!
Poll

greyhounds eh ...???? ........ the mind fairly boggles !! ;D
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Post by: PaulaToo on Monday 14 April 08 16:02 BST (UK): Eh.........
Anyone know their names?
Starting top left, don't mind if you miss a few.... ;D

Well, you did say................ ::)
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Post by: woolley on Monday 14 April 08 17:14 BST (UK): Thanks to all of you for the interest shown. I didn't think a restore would create this much interest.

Flakdodger, re the snowball picture, he's the one dressed like its summer.

In the main Picture the head in the cockpit belongs to him

The numbers I'm afraid are down to a child of 6 tryng to count how many were on the plane as I recall.

By the way when needed I can arrange for a large print, to be donated to whoever wants a copy.

TreeTotal Martha Rowland Born 1803 Derbyshire

Bye for now Woolley
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Post by: Treetotal on Monday 14 April 08 17:20 BST (UK): Hi Woolley...Thanks for that...I'll look into it...and would certainly be interested in a copy...my son is in the RAF (Aircrew) and would be very interested in this cracking photo 8)
Carol
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Post by: Polldoll on Monday 14 April 08 22:52 BST (UK): Just out of interest then Woolley ...how many souls are there in this pic ???...
cos so far I have restored 31 !!!! :-\ ::)
erm.... :o on second thoughts ...maybe you'd better not tell me .. :-\
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Post by: Flakdodger on Monday 14 April 08 22:58 BST (UK): What a fascinating thread.
Caz and Poll do you really want to go down the coloured route. Boy, what a minefield.
I have been looking on-line for a coloured wartime Lanc photo. All I can come up with is this famous colour pic by Charles E Brown. But beware the brown - even here it looks a little pale. The black is matt. Avoid any gloss at all costs.
I will have to rummage through my book collection, which is still boxed up after a house move.
The foreground is concrete. The building to right rear is camouflaged medium, matt, green. The vehicle is Air Force Blue (blue gray).
The men and women and their uniforms. Weeeellll....I am wondering just what we have here, as there seems to be a preponderance of groundcrew and service echelons. There seem to be less aircrew than I first thought.
OK, try this for colouring: Officers (hats not caps) Air Force Blue, if dark, then think Navy Blue. Same for aircrew; aha I hear you groan, how to spot them - look for insignia on left breast and also light dots on collar (these are whistles).
This leaves the majority who are Air Force Blue. The blokes in overalls can be various shades of grot as befits their trade and the amount of grease and muck and sun fading that these garments would attract (so for the tradesmen ignore comments about Australian dark blue).
Woolley, thanks for pointing out your Dad.
Beard Grandchild, "Ginger" lives in many many photos. A whole generation that have passed on and who never captioned photos nor thought anyone would be interested to ask. Why not post the photo, we might be able to offer some background.
Cheers
Dave
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Post by: Polldoll on Monday 14 April 08 23:19 BST (UK): Hi Dave .. yeah.. we're quite mad aren't we?. ;D ;D I can vouch for Caz ... being only just slightly less mad than me . She came to stay with me, whilst here on holiday, last October from Brisbane :o after we became friends on here doing restores ... The photo of the plane is just ideal ... we can actually PICK the colours to match with a colour picker ( have taken note re the brown Sir ) I f you can post a pic or a link to a pic with all the correct colours we can match them up exactly.. For example a matt green covers thousands of shades !!If you can find something that matches and post or even email me it would help a lot .. I mean the shirts for example ...I presume are a shade of blue ... and I dont want to give them brown boots if they should be black .. ;D
Poll
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 14 April 08 23:21 BST (UK): G_ George...
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 14 April 08 23:42 BST (UK): For uniform colours...

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l102/scrimnet/WW2RAFBD.jpg)

And a close up of an officers....

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l102/scrimnet/RAF1.jpg)
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 14 April 08 23:48 BST (UK): RAF Blue Grey vehicle....

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l102/scrimnet/050315_rfoster_mp_his_ww2_elv38.jpg)
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Post by: Stefan Woolf on Monday 14 April 08 23:54 BST (UK): For anybody having trouble viewing the picture on the previously posted link, there is a similar picture, showing a Lancaster with some snow....

The caption reads...

Lincolnshire, England. 1944-12-08. Group portrait of members of air and ground crews at Lancaster No. 460 Squadron RAAF at RAF Station Brighton, with one of the squadron aircraft after a slight fall of snow - the first of the season.

And here's the picture.....

Stef.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Stefan Woolf on Tuesday 15 April 08 00:03 BST (UK): In fact the posted site contains at least 3 different pictures of aircrew and groundcrew posing on a Lanc in this way.

Obviously it was the kind of picture taken more often than you might have assumed.

I think they are superb - never seen anything like it before!

Stef.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Tuesday 15 April 08 03:11 BST (UK): I'm thrilled to bits with the interest in this photo. Please be patient though folks as there is hours/days of work in the restore alone and as for the colour that's a whole different ball game.

Poll I think Jim counted 64 men on the plane itself :o :o :o

Cheers
Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Aussie Karrob on Tuesday 15 April 08 10:02 BST (UK): Sorry Cazza; and others,
Just had to reply now. I can do naught other than to concur with all previous comments on the excellence of all restoration work. Especially you Cazza59 as you were one of the first Aussies to welcome me to RC in late 2004.

Like the thread on the lost plane in the Cairngorm's in Wales, this has brought copious tears this grey haired old fart of a feller here in NSW. In part due to the dedication to servicemen that you all show, the time you give soooooo generously ALL the time. But mainly because my dad was in the Aussie army in artillery for the whole of the war and couldn't get a posting OS because he knew too much about the job. So he was kept in Oz to train recruits in artillery, so his big deal in the army was to hopefully save others lives through good instruction. He was so very peeved that he had himself paraded before the top officer in Australia for an OS posting only to be told that the more junior officers had it right.

Crikey this is a tome. Sorry girls n boys. The story and generosity got to me emotions :'( :'(.

So thank you all :-* :-* yep even you fellers can cop one on the cheek for your care.

Robert aka Aussie Karrob on chat
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 15 April 08 10:17 BST (UK): Aw how sweet of you ... your kind words are appreciated R and K ... It makes the time we spend doing this really worthwhile ... that and the fact that a few hours work on a pic can sometimes help to keep memories alive for someone is all the reward we need .. ;) :-*
Poll
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Tuesday 15 April 08 12:44 BST (UK): Gp Capt H I Edwards was In charge of RAF Binbrook
Feb 1943 to Dec 1944
Later Air Commodore Sir Hughie Edwards (39005)
The following link makes for interesting reading

http://www.rafweb.org/Stations/Station%20OCs-Lincs.htm#Binbrook

Is he in the photo

Woolley
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Tuesday 15 April 08 12:48 BST (UK): Hiya Aussie :D

Long time "no speak" ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thank you very much for your kind words, they really appreciated.

Have to say I do miss the chatroom very much and remember fondly all the laughs we had!! I did promise Billa that I would try to keep in touch more, so I think a reunion in the chatroom is in order!! I'll pay a visit as soon as I finish this restore...I'm sure I've got loads to catch up on! ;)

Take care
Regards
Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Tuesday 15 April 08 20:46 BST (UK): This really is a stunning thread. Well done everyone. As an ex-RAF bloke myself, I can't thank everyone enough for the time you all spend on those who have served.

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But mainly because my dad was in the Aussie army in artillery for the whole of the war and couldn't get a posting OS because he knew too much about the job. So he was kept in Oz to train recruits in artillery, so his big deal in the army was to hopefully save others lives through good instruction. He was so very peeved that he had himself paraded before the top officer in Australia for an OS posting only to be told that the more junior officers had it right.
Your father served his country Rob - and that's good enough for me! There should be no tears - just pride.

Thudders
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Tuesday 15 April 08 21:02 BST (UK): Hello there Flakdodger,
We are all following this one with bated breath, aren't we? I spent ages the other night enlarging faces on the photo just to see if Ginger was there, then spent another half hour on the Binbrook pages of the Lost Bombers site! That's as well as checking up on all of the new postings on this one, and wondering if the restorers are getting any sleep at all with all of those faces to work on.

Re your suggestion that I post my photo of Ginger -I've spent the last few weeks mastering the art of scanning at 600dpi then compacting the photo to below 500KB (all these technical things that they teach you on here!), but I don't know how to send a photo as a small one on this site. What do I need to do for it to arrive as a normal sized photo?
Awaiting technical help!!
Cheers, Pat.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 15 April 08 21:06 BST (UK): Quote from: Thudnut on Tuesday 15 April 08 20:46 BST (UK)
This really is a stunning thread. Well done everyone. As an ex-RAF bloke myself, I can't thank everyone enough for the time you all spend on those who have served.

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But mainly because my dad was in the Aussie army in artillery for the whole of the war and couldn't get a posting OS because he knew too much about the job. So he was kept in Oz to train recruits in artillery, so his big deal in the army was to hopefully save others lives through good instruction. He was so very peeved that he had himself paraded before the top officer in Australia for an OS posting only to be told that the more junior officers had it right.
Your father served his country Rob - and that's good enough for me! There should be no tears - just pride.

Thudders

My dad never left the country either...But he did his bit, got downgraded after double pneumonia and pleurisy, and put on a "Home Only" posting...COs driver, Bren gun carrier instructor, SHAEF officers mess barman, POW camp guard...

If he hadn't, I wouldn't be writing this...The Regt was quite badly mauled in engagements in Europe, Africa, and especially Burma

Oh... and he has a part claim in a Heinkel 111 that he helped shoot down with his Bren gun
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 15 April 08 21:09 BST (UK): Quote from: Beard grandchild on Tuesday 15 April 08 21:02 BST (UK)
Hello there Flakdodger,
We are all following this one with bated breath, aren't we? I spent ages the other night enlarging faces on the photo just to see if Ginger was there, then spent another half hour on the Binbrook pages of the Lost Bombers site! That's as well as checking up on all of the new postings on this one, and wondering if the restorers are getting any sleep at all with all of those faces to work on.

Re your suggestion that I post my photo of Ginger -I've spent the last few weeks mastering the art of scanning at 600dpi then compacting the photo to below 500KB (all these technical things that they teach you on here!), but I don't know how to send a photo as a small one on this site. What do I need to do for it to arrive as a normal sized photo?
Awaiting technical help!!
Cheers, Pat.

You could either click on the "Attach a photo..." This link pops up in blue under the dialog box when typing a message or use www.photobucket.com as I often do...
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Tuesday 15 April 08 22:22 BST (UK): Hope this is going to work! I have tried to make the photo smaller in size - so here goes.

This is Ginger, KIA 1943? Pilot Officer (I think) Definately flew from a Lincolnshire base.

Not a lot to go on, I know, but if anyone comes across him on any other photos, please let me know.

Thanks, Pat.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 15 April 08 23:01 BST (UK): Oh my goodness ..... he looks so so young doesnt he?
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Tuesday 15 April 08 23:11 BST (UK): Ginger and my Mother were engaged when he was killed. My Aunt, who is 11 years younger than my Mother was, remembers him very clearly.He and Mum spent much of their off duty time at my Grandma's, and treated Hazel, my Aunt, like a little princess (so she says)
After he was killed, I gather my Mum found it very hard to talk about him - most of what I know came from my Aunt.
When my Mum died in 2003, this photo came to light amongst her personal things. She had obviously treasured it for all of those years.
I do wish that we had asked her more about him, but that is always the case, isn't it? he was about 22 when he was killed.
Cheers, Pat.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Lones on Wednesday 16 April 08 00:04 BST (UK): Quote from: Robert & Karon on Tuesday 15 April 08 10:02 BST (UK)
But mainly because my dad was in the Aussie army in artillery for the whole of the war and couldn't get a posting OS because he knew too much about the job. So he was kept in Oz to train recruits in artillery, .

HI Aussie

Your Dad may have trained my Dad, he was a gunner in the artillery. He was on anti-aircraft guns in Darwin when the Japs attacked. The fact I am here may be a credit to your Dad's good teaching :) :).

Lones
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 16 April 08 07:58 BST (UK): As the interest in WW2 and the RAF involvement grows on this thread...I thought this would be a good link and may help the families of those who gave so much and to whom we all owe a great debt of gratitude :-*

Pat... I hope you find "Ginger" on there amongst the photos

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/

What a great thread this is 8) 8) 8)

Carol ;)
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Wednesday 16 April 08 20:21 BST (UK): Thanks for that link Carol,
It is certainly going to take me some time to look carefully through all of those photo's.

I really do agree with you as to what an interesting thread this is - each day something new of interest is posted.

The original photo really started something, didn't it?

Cheers, Pat.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Flakdodger on Wednesday 16 April 08 22:01 BST (UK): Good evening all,
I wish I more time to devote to RootsChat, instead of an hour or so of an evening.
Just to say that direct comms are established with Poll and Cazza. These two ladies are obviously indefacitable (better spellcheck that) and I've found some wartime colour to guide them.
Scrimnet - Do you have any details of Dad's HE-111 claim? We might be able to flesh it out.
Thudnut - I value your view as an ex-mob member. I am not, so do put me right if ever you catch me pontificating.
Pat - Thank you for posting the photo of Ginger and for sharing it with us all. There are folk today who would give their eye teeth for a flying jacket like that. As for what the detail tells us, all I can offer is that he appears not to be RAF Volunteer Reserve (a lapel VR badge ought to be visible at this angle) so that he was called up, rather than being a pre-war volunteer.
Is there any chance that Aunt Hazel recalls a name,
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Can't really work on the details you quote. Type of aircraft perhaps, but I doubt if this would have been talked about to civilians, anyway.
I guess he stands as eloquent testimony to those of a generation who will be forever 22
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 16 April 08 22:32 BST (UK): Quote from: Flakdodger on Wednesday 16 April 08 22:01 BST (UK)

I wish I more time to devote to RootsChat, instead of an hour or so of an evening.

That how we all started FD... NOW LOOK AT US ! addicted ..hooked and even indefatigable! ;D ;D
Poll
Someone tell me how many men I am restoring on this pic please ;D :o :o
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Wednesday 16 April 08 22:41 BST (UK): Hi Flakdodger,
Re Ginger - Aunt Hazel has the christian names for Ginger as Anthony and Peter , in whichever order but we have tried these on the CWGC and not been able to come up with anyone specific. I was chasing an Anthony Peter Lovegrove at one time, but since joining RootsChat it was pointed out to me that he died as a POW and Ginger was definately KIA. The timings seemed to fit. Hazel was only about 8 years old when he was killed, and cannot be sure of the exact year, only that it would have been late 1942 at the earliest, but more likely early to mid 1943.

The only snippets Hazel is sure of is that he was an only child, from what she calls "a genteel family", she thinks he was from the South of England, and the 2 christian names she is convinced are right.

My mother was stationed at Waddington, but whether Ginger was there or at another Lincs airfield she doesn't know. She just remembers the pair of them turning up at my Grandma's in some type of sports car at very frequent intervals and spoiling her with little gifts and lots of attention.

Even if we don't solve this mystery, I do thank you all for the interest and help that you are giving to me.

Cheers, Pat.

PS. Poll, What a talent, restoring men! Can I send you my OH to work on?
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 16 April 08 23:41 BST (UK): If he needs a few creases ironing out Pat ... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Thursday 17 April 08 07:22 BST (UK): I have to say, I do like a man in uniform but I'm starting to see them in my sleep ;D ;D ;D

Poll I'd hoped you were counting them!! I think we will have to come up with a tally, then mutiply that by number of buttons, caps, etc etc so see how many we've restored LOL LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D

I hope people aren't sitting by the pc waiting the imminent arrival of the restores, as there is so much work in them as you can appreciate and I know I speak for Poll as well when I say you are going to have to hang on a couple more days or even longer, and that's before we start to colour!!!

Seeing the other pics/messages on this thread, the thought occurred to me how nice it would be to have a thread where people could post photos of relatives that served during WWI and WWII, sort of a tribute to them. Anyway, food for thought.

Must go, got more caps to stitch back together ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Aussie Karrob on Thursday 17 April 08 13:15 BST (UK): Cazza,
That is a great idea to create a new thread. When it kicks off, please let me know and I will contribute what small amount I have recovered for three brothers, namely Richard, Roland, Alan and Neil SHEPHERD from WWII.

Richard, Australia Volunteer Defence Corps
Roland, Infantry with all his service in New Guinea
Alan & Neil, Artillery and all service spent stuck in Australia
Neil, RAAF for the last six months of the war in an attempt to get over seas. Alas the war ended and he remained in Australia again.

YES Cazza I am glued to me puter waiting. It is a bloomin fantastic pic, and like others Im sure, I am going blue holding me breath in anticipation ::)

Cheers
Robert
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 17 April 08 13:41 BST (UK): Oh what a good idea. I know just the photo I could put on.....
But first someone would have to clean it up for me.....
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jc26red on Thursday 17 April 08 16:45 BST (UK): Poll , Caz you're doing a great job...

when you're finished I have another one for you :P ;D

just kidding,

this one is taken at Langley when they were churning out planes. My Grandad is the chap in the middle on the ground in the white overall. I also have another one which is more historic, a photo of the ceremony of the last one out of production at Langley for the war. I think grandad is the chap at the back with the dirty raincoat on ::)

Jenny
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Thursday 17 April 08 18:28 BST (UK): Oh Wow Jenny You'll have some people drooling over more plane pics ... AREN'T THEY WONDERFUL?... they look in good nick from here !
Poll
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jc26red on Thursday 17 April 08 19:08 BST (UK): Hi Poll,
they are in excellent nick aren't they! my grandmother looked after them well. I haven't touched them at all other than scan them and post. I dragged them out of my aunts haul along with the old photo of my little ballerina last year.
I haven't posted these before because there is only a little to do but thought they would be nice to show others on this thread as its along the same kind of theme... that is while we are all waiting in anticipation of these wonderful restores and colouring ;D sooner you than me :P ;)
I should really ask my OH what kind of planes they are, he's bound to know
Jenny
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Thursday 17 April 08 19:26 BST (UK): Top Lancaster, bottom Hurricane....

Airfix strikes again.... ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Thursday 17 April 08 19:27 BST (UK): I bet some rivet counter will be able to trace the history of that Hurricane!!!

Wheres Flakdodger??? :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D

Calling Crab Air!!!
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jc26red on Thursday 17 April 08 19:31 BST (UK): My OH had already told me that while I was waiting... I didn't even realise it was the same type of plane and the original one on the thread.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Thursday 17 April 08 20:59 BST (UK): It is Hurricane PZ865 and is now with the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight:
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/hurriregistry/hurricane-pz865.html

Thudders (Ex Crab Air!)
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Thursday 17 April 08 21:03 BST (UK): See...I knew that there was at least x1 Crab Air Rivet Counter out there.... :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Thursday 17 April 08 21:08 BST (UK): It gets worse.....

The Lancaster in the photo is owned by the now defunct British South American Airways and was used as a freighter. It's registration was G-AGUL. The 'G' is obscured by the door and you can just see the 'A'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_South_American_Airways

I'll get me coat................ :-\
Thudders
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Thursday 17 April 08 21:09 BST (UK): Coat mate?

No!!

Just your thermos and bobble hat.....

It's Roy Cropper fresh from the Rovers Return!
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Flakdodger on Thursday 17 April 08 22:19 BST (UK): Poll story of my life: drooling over plane piccies/polystyrene cement/pasties.
Pat thanks for the snippets on Ginger. I will have a sniff around - but the CWGC is the main source and you have done that.
Robert & Cazza I do like the idea of a new thread where we can post photos just for the enjoyment of viewing them - not requiring restoration or other work. Or is there scope for a new board? I am a newcomer to Rootschat, so I do not know how to organise that.
My neighbours have a poignant colour photo of a couple, he in uniform, before, as the caption states, he disappeared in New Guinea..........and we do not know who they are.......
Oh, and Cazza don't fret about the time it takes for your restoration. we are a patient lot. I'm involved in another thread (Mystery photo that needs another look) and trying to bring it to a conclusion has given me nightmares.
Thudders thanks for the gen on Star Dust, follow this link to the aircraft's fate http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/vanished.shtml
Scrimnet rivet counters like Mars Bars too.
G'night all
Dave
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Thursday 17 April 08 22:34 BST (UK): Gnight !!!??? :o :o :o ITS ONLY 10 30.... PM ... Where's yer stamina man !!! ;)
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Thursday 17 April 08 22:38 BST (UK): Crab Air types are renowned lightweights.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Flakdodger on Thursday 17 April 08 22:43 BST (UK): Geroutofit..........I have run out of Grecian 2000 and am desperate :D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Thursday 17 April 08 22:45 BST (UK): I've just read on wikipedia why you refer to them as Crab Air folks ... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and again
;D ;D ;D ;D
Poll
Gotta dash .. Learning how to manouvre sideways!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Thursday 17 April 08 23:11 BST (UK): Ignore the Pongo Polldoll (Where the Army goes - the pong goes).

Crab Air is the way forwards (or should that be sideways?)

Thudders
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 18 April 08 00:38 BST (UK): Jenny what another set of awesome photos, they would belong on the tribute thread for sure. If we add what we know about the photos, I'm sure it will be a gold mine of information for others wanting information or help with identification of war photos and would make an excellent reference source, as well as a small tribute to their honour.

Not sure where the appropriate board would be, but I guess we could start it here and if the mods/administrators think it belongs elsewhere they will move it accordingly.

Cheers
Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Beard grandchild on Friday 18 April 08 08:08 BST (UK): How informative this site is!! I bet the "Net" has never had so many look ups of Crab Air in such a short space of time.

Cheers, Pat.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Aussie Karrob on Friday 18 April 08 09:32 BST (UK): Cazza and others,
Do we need to consider the amount of space on the mainframe server for all these wonderful pics?????

Tristan and Sarah may throw their hands in the air n give up ;D

I agree. We would be privy to many wonderful pics honouring personal sacrifice, hasty marriages, unexpected pregnancies and births with dad overseas, etc etc.

This would be a wow of a thread if commenced.

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT

Cheers
Robert
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Friday 18 April 08 09:47 BST (UK): Good point, Robert.

How about using an image hosting website (such as Photobucket) and just posting the link to the photograph?

You could write a narrative history of the image on the Rootschat thread and then click on the link. That should save quite a bit of server space.

Thudders
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: PaulaToo on Friday 18 April 08 10:33 BST (UK): Just a thought...could we PM Tristan and ask what he thinks......
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Friday 18 April 08 11:48 BST (UK): I was thinking about the size issue today and since the photos are not being posted for restoring, they really only need to be very small in file size eg 72kg (as opposed to dimensions).

I do think you are right though, Tristan or Sarah need to give their consent as I'm sure server space is at a premium.

Cheers
Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: chinakay on Saturday 19 April 08 05:22 BST (UK): Everybody must have a similar photo...since this thread has expanded to the general topic, here's mine ;D (doesn't need restoring)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Flakdodger on Saturday 19 April 08 14:40 BST (UK): China,
that's sweet. what is your connection to the photo?
RAF Debert, Nova Scotia was the home of 31 Operational Training Unit (OTU), which specialized in training crews to ferry aeroplanes across the Atlantic.
A good history is:
OCEAN BRIDGE The History of RAF Ferry Command (ISBN: 0802006388) University of Toronto Press 1995.
An interesting personal history of Debert at the time of the photo is at :
http://www.debertmilitarymuseum.org/harris.htm
The Lockheed Hudson was quite an elderly 'kite' by April 1944.
I assume No 1 Squadron to be a sub unit (a Flight) within 31 OTU.
Dave
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Saturday 19 April 08 14:50 BST (UK): What cracking photos this thread is unearthing. China I think you should air your cockpit photo again, still ranks up there as one of my favourites!!

Cheers
Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Saturday 19 April 08 18:19 BST (UK): Superb photo China.

Sounds like Wickenby would be interested in any photos of Bomber Command from that era for their museum.

Caz and Poll, I take my hat off to you both for attempting this, after numerous attempts at a small naffi scene at 1200 dpi I think I'm nearly their( gets you turning into an obsessive).

Woolly
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: cazza59 on Sunday 20 April 08 04:03 BST (UK): I am starting to doubt my sanity ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Caz
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 20 April 08 04:44 BST (UK): Quote from: Flakdodger on Saturday 19 April 08 14:40 BST (UK)
what is your connection to the photo?

I had to take a magnifying glass to it to find my connection ;D The 9th fellow from the right in the second row was a RAF stationed at Carberry, Manitoba. My grandfather had some connection to Carberry, possibly a medical officer as he was a surgeon...he used to invite homesick young men home for roast beef and Yorkshire pud, and my mother remained friends with several of them after the war.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 20 April 08 04:50 BST (UK): Per request, my cockpit photo ;D It really is a wonderful photo, and beautifully restored by Caz. Here it is in the form of part of a family history scrapbook page I made, but I could post just the photo...the page isn't scanned very high, but the photo is better.

The fellow on the left was my husband's great great uncle. On the right side of the page I had an RCAF crest, an RAF crest, and a pair of poppies between.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: chinakay on Sunday 20 April 08 05:08 BST (UK): Just out of interest (mostly mine I suppose :)) here is the right-hand side of the page I made.

Cheers,
C
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Flakdodger on Sunday 20 April 08 10:35 BST (UK): China,
thank you for sharing the wonderful photo of P/O Humblestone and F/LT Walker. You have obviously researched it too, with loving care.
Thanks for pointing out your Father on the Debert photo.
Dave
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 00:30 BST (UK): Just in case you think I've forgotten ....I 'm still working on this pic ...... another week and I may have finished the restoring ... :-\ ::) .... ;D whose idea was this anyway ....
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Aussie Karrob on Sunday 27 April 08 06:25 BST (UK): Crikey Moses,
I would never have entertained such a thought polldoll :(

But am glad you are so committed to honoring these men (and their descendants) :) yer a champ indeed.

Cheers
Robert
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: PaulaToo on Sunday 27 April 08 10:13 BST (UK): Never doubted you for one moment, Poll. I think we all know how dedicated you are.
Slowly slowly, protect the eyeballs.
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Thudnut on Sunday 27 April 08 10:37 BST (UK): Absolutely never doubted you Polldoll. Looking forward to the finished product as and when it arrives.

Thank you for doing all that you are doing. It means a great deal to us ex-crabs. ;D

Thudders
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: pyghtle on Sunday 27 April 08 11:48 BST (UK): Hi..have just caught up with this wonderful thread, my turn to admire your photos China...... beautifully restored and presented........ :D :D :D

Brenda
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 12:58 BST (UK): While you are waiting ....Here are Karrobs pics in colour ... a doddle compared to the Bomber pic ... so it was some light relief.... ;D Hope you dont mind Woolie ... Its bumping up your thread ...
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 13:00 BST (UK): And the second one .... apologies if uniform colours are incorrect ...I can change them ......

edited later ...
Thanks Scrimmers ...is that better ?
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: kesannah on Sunday 27 April 08 17:52 BST (UK): I can only add my admiration for the wonderful restorers. A really great picture and I look forward to seeing the finished articles.

It is always good to know these people are not forgotten-they gave so much.

Kesannah
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 18:33 BST (UK): Yet another spotty dog colourisation Poll!!...

Err...just one colour thing...The shorts on the No2...They should be Khaki as well...KD has a habit of having different shades...and a mix and match!!
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 19:25 BST (UK): Duly adjusted and reposted on same post Sir ! ... did you salute back then ...? ;)... ER WHAT IS SPOTTY DOG ??? Or am I being obtuse ....?
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 19:38 BST (UK): :o :o :o :o

You don't know the phrase Spotty Dog????!!!!!!

It's an Army phrase meaning Top Hole! Really Good etc etc....
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 20:03 BST (UK): Blimey No :o .. I was looking for spots on the pic that I'd missed .... doh ...how embarrassing :-[ :-[ I'm tring to work out where the saying comes from ... but daren't ask ... so .. I be blissful in my ignorance .... ;D ;D
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 21:19 BST (UK): Woodentops.....
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 27 April 08 22:01 BST (UK): Is that of Windy Miller fame ....
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Post by: Beard grandchild on Sunday 27 April 08 23:54 BST (UK): Oh, it is good to have you lot having a go again.! :D :D

It's been a bit quiet on here for a few days,and I've missed the repartee.

Cheers, Pat.
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Post by: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 23:59 BST (UK): Windy Miller was from Camberwick Green ::)

The Woodentops were a farming family with strings.... ::) ::) ::) ::)

(so I'm told, waaaayyyy before my time!!!)

I'm glad someone likes the "cut of my jib" :P 8) ;D...someone on another thread doesn't realise I put fun and facts together...SOHF!!! They got all stroppy when I pointed out a book they relied upon was tosh! :'(
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Post by: Aussie Karrob on Monday 28 April 08 14:04 BST (UK): Polldoll,
Thank you for reposting the restored pics again.. the look 'in place' here. Further, a public thank you for your kind and generous spirit.

Scrimmet, well spotted. Karon asked about that but I couldn't see it at all >:( You have good eyes.. look after them :)

Thank you all

Robert
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 28 April 08 14:35 BST (UK): Actually I'm used to inspecting troops! :o ::) ergo I have an eye for detail... 8)

I normally have a Sgt Major to take down notes for me though! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: chinakay on Monday 28 April 08 17:31 BST (UK): Woohoo, POLL!! Fabulous! Really enjoyed looking at these.

Cheers,
C
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: silvery on Monday 28 April 08 18:37 BST (UK): Quote from: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 23:59 BST (UK)

I'm glad someone likes the "cut of my jib" :'(

That's navy isn't it? You do that too !! ;D

Quote from: scrimnet on Sunday 27 April 08 23:59 BST (UK)
I put fun and facts together...SOHF!!!

And someone's got to ask, what does that mean ? ???
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Post by: scrimnet on Monday 28 April 08 20:30 BST (UK): Sense Of Humour Failure...

Someone who is a bit of a BOF.... ;D
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Post by: Woodentop50 on Monday 28 April 08 22:39 BST (UK): Somebody mention the Woodentops ? ;D

Poll ,

That's a very nice job of colouring.

Jim
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Post by: Polldoll on Monday 28 April 08 23:54 BST (UK): Thanks Jim ...I wont tell you how long it took me ... ::) I thought I'd have a break from the bombeR..... and I did ! I must be the slowest person on here for colouring and restoring ... Must be me age ... lol ... ;) Ol scrimmers is handy with his expertise on uniforms ... we need someone like that to pop in and keep us right on things military ... ....and I reckon he'd put us on Jankers if we got it wrong !!! :o(or should that be IN jankers ....? :-\)
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Post by: trellisick on Tuesday 29 April 08 00:15 BST (UK): just back from holiday, took another look, amazing!!!! kali.
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Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 29 April 08 00:19 BST (UK): You are not the slowest on here!!

Anyway...Quality not quantity!!!

I am obliged for the kind words said about me... :-[ :-[

I do try to help...Educate and Entertain being my motto!!!

BTW...Less of the "ol' " :P :P :P Aye thang yew

I would not put you all on orders for getting it wrong...I have no powers over the civilian populace...Mind you..I could declare martial law... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"Jankers" is an obsolete term for what is now known as ROPs...Restriction of Privileges...In the old days (before MY time) a miscreant could be sent to do some "spud bashing".or painting coal black..alas those days are no more....

A soldier with rights??????? Whatever next! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: PaulaToo on Tuesday 29 April 08 10:53 BST (UK): Scrimnet, you brought my father back with with a bump then...
Spud bashing... it was always his saying,
'If I don't ....whatever... your Mum'll put me on spud bashing...' and he would saunter off with a mischiveous twinkle in his eyes.

I'm still smiling at the memory.
Thank you.
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Post by: Woodentop50 on Tuesday 29 April 08 11:45 BST (UK): If it doesn't move , paint it white.

If it does , salute it !
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Post by: Beard grandchild on Tuesday 29 April 08 14:03 BST (UK): Hi Scrimnet,

This martial law thing-You could lead us all into a revolution. Give England back to those of us who spend most of our time in the past!

Where and when do I sign up.? 8)

Cheers, Pat.
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Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 29 April 08 15:57 BST (UK): Look what happened last time....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086709/

;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 00:03 BST (UK): Well ... ... I'm back after a month on this pic ... I must be mad Ihope the mods dont reduce it to 800 pixels width or you will hardly see anything :'( :'(.. I have had to compress it however to get the file size acceptable ... A very large file is available if you want it woolley... If you say you dont I'll scream ! :o :o ;D ;D
Poll
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Post by: PaulaToo on Tuesday 06 May 08 00:14 BST (UK): Poll I'm in awe.
That is gold star brilliant.
Just don't know what to say.
Well done is about all I can think of....
Tell you what, I'm not putting a frame round that one....
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 00:23 BST (UK): Aw thank you Paula .... I am pleased with it ...although I dont think I'll do that again ... a month is a long time for one pic ... even for me .. ;) I have used a bit of artistic licence for the sky and painted in my own clouds and some vapour trails.... I just hope Woolley is happy with it and Scrimmers doesnt point out too many faults with colours etc .lol ..
Poll ...having a rest now .... ;)
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Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 06 May 08 00:45 BST (UK): Stunning job with the chaps there Poll!!! :o ;D

And no not too many colour faults!! ;) ;) ;) ;)

The highest point of the Lanc, which you have as green is actually glass/perspex...

The props (including each boss) are all black with yellow tips on all of them...

I think you have taken some of the chaps shadows as cammo

Here's the best one I can find in colour...

http://www.aero-farm.com/aircraft/Lancaster.jpg
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 01:16 BST (UK): ok here's an adapted version without the camaflague andblack propellers ... WE AIM TO PLEASE !! ;D
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Post by: mudge on Tuesday 06 May 08 01:21 BST (UK): Hi Poll
I can't believe I have not seen this thread before, with so many hits, but I must say I am glad you tackled it and not me ;)
You have made a fantastic job of it 8) No wonder we haven't seen much of you lately on the other threads, considering the effort you must have put in on this one :)
I'm gob smacked at your restoration :o
Mudge
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 01:53 BST (UK): Thanks Mudge ... AW have you missed me ?? ;D ;D ;D I think I must have been quite mad to do this .. The large version is a ginormous 19 mbs ... for a print 12 inches by 4 ! As for Scrimnet ... I dont have any problem with what he posted but thanks for being gallant ;)... ...it's all information we all learn from ... and in the end I did want it to look as real I want to as possible .. Trouble is my colour co ordination tends to revolve round clothes and Interior design ...old planes colours are pretty low on my list of things I 'm famililiar with !! I have a feeling though that I could get addicted to old soldiers !! ;) ;D ;D
Poll
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Post by: willow154 on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:01 BST (UK): Poll, we've all missed you - wondered if you were away somewhere.
Goodness you must have worked so hard on this one - what a transformation!
Nice to see you back, Poll.
Take care,
Paulene :)
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:09 BST (UK): Hi Paulene !! I think that's the longest time I have spent on a photo ... I must have taken 150 hours to do it ... but then I am very patient when it comes to this sort of work and I have thetime being a retired ol' grannie ... ;D ;D D ... Nice to know I have been missed ... ;)
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Post by: Lones on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:19 BST (UK): Blimey Poll

It's Bl**dy Brilliant :o :o ;D ;D

You have done an incredible job. Well done, it must have been exhausting. I am in awe.....

Woolley will be stoked, who wouldn't??

Even better than excellent!! 8) 8)

Lones :)
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Post by: miagre1 on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:30 BST (UK): Absolutely stunning Poll.

Awesome indeed. What a monumental piece of restoration

George.
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Post by: Niksmum on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:40 BST (UK): Thats an awesome restore Poll. 8)
Well Done

Irene
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Post by: chinakay on Tuesday 06 May 08 07:11 BST (UK): I'll say! Well done indeed...unbelievable in fact! Absolutely amazing.

Are your eyes twirling in little circles, Poll? That's enough for now...I don't want to see you doing another restore for a week. Rest your eyes, sweetie! Do some gardening, go shopping...take a break :D Go to the seaside and sit on the beach with a hankie on your head and a bottle of Newcastle Brown ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Poll...and again, well done!
China
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Post by: mare on Tuesday 06 May 08 07:45 BST (UK): Endorse all the wonderful comments Poll, have been waiting with interest to see result.
Such a challenging restore and so amazingly transformed.

mare
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Post by: Tephra on Tuesday 06 May 08 09:37 BST (UK): Us on the YT thread have just been instructed (damn near ordered!! ::) ) to come and have a look at your restore Poll.............and ya know what, I'm glad that I did. ;D ;D

That's nothing short of absolutely brilliant work. I can understand the time it took to bring it back, but you've done a wonderful job.

Barbara
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Post by: Aussie Karrob on Tuesday 06 May 08 10:01 BST (UK): Quote from: Lones on Tuesday 06 May 08 02:19 BST (UK)

It's Bloody Brilliant :o :o ;D ;D

You have done an incredible job. Well done, it must have been exhausting. I am in awe.....

Woolley will be stoked, who wouldn't??

Even better than excellent!! 8) 8)

Lones :)

Aussie Karrob can do little more than echo Lones' words.

I have come home from work to see one amazing transformation. I am still in awe of you men and women who so honor our service men and women from photographic beginnings to the present day.

This is a WOW day for this old feller Polldoll !!!!! :'( and thank you for restoring my dads pictures appearing back a few pages :-* :-*

In awe still,
Regards
Robert, aka Aussie Karrob
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Post by: Polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 10:05 BST (UK): Blimey Barbara... who did that????... let me guess.. pause ...... aha Miss Pels ... well thank you for popping in to say you like it ... :-* :-*
Lones ... you're always so generous .. I hope woolley sees it and approves ... .. :-\

Irene ..I love your avatar .. thanks for your kind words too .. ;)
George ... ... . thanks for that .. xxI hope I dont see another set of wings for a while though ... I'm off to Lichfield Cathedral now to take some Photos ...just have to get out ...lol ...
China ... yes maam hankie at the ready ... thanks for your unending support on here ..
Mare ..Thanks... it's one of those never again pics I think ... until the next time ... ;D ;D
Bob AW tHANKS ... YOU WERE WELCOME ! :-*
Poll
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Post by: Tephra on Tuesday 06 May 08 10:08 BST (UK): I'm not saying 'who done it' Poll..........but I'm glad Pels did........ ;D ;D ;D I wouldn't have missed this particular restore for anything.

Well done girl!!!

Barbara
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Post by: deeiluka on Tuesday 06 May 08 10:15 BST (UK): Unbelievably brilliant! :D :D :D

What a job.....and what perseverance....and what skill......

........dee
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Post by: patrish on Tuesday 06 May 08 10:38 BST (UK): Absolutely fantastic, :D rather poignant for me as my dad was in the RAF.
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Post by: trish251 on Tuesday 06 May 08 11:07 BST (UK): Truly fabulous fantastic and amazing - to steal the words of others

Also brilliant and stunning :D

Trish
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Post by: Rabbit B on Tuesday 06 May 08 12:38 BST (UK): Hi Poll and Everyone,

This picture that you have restored if breathtakingly brilliant! You should be so proud that the next generations will be able to admire your hard work, for there was no colour photography then. You have done a fantastic job on this picture.

Congratulations, it is a brilliant piece of work!!

I have only just discovered this thread, my Dad was in the RAF as well. I am still in touch with one of his old buddies. I shall make that phone call tonight to get all the gen I am still lacking.

I have realised reading this thread, that I don't know where they were stationed in England when they came back from Canada. They were with the School of Air Navigation for a while!

I had two uncles in the RAF as well both out in the middle east somewhere. Then my Nephew was in the first gulf war.

Rabbit B :D
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Post by: genie.fan on Tuesday 06 May 08 12:43 BST (UK): Poll that is just terrific.....absolutely excellent.....you must have some patience :o :o

Genie :) :)
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Post by: ymfoster on Tuesday 06 May 08 13:21 BST (UK): Poll that is absolutely fantasticly brilliant & awesome :o :D

I'd forgotten you were tackling this restore & wondered where you'd got to, then noticed this huge thread & thought there must have been something entertaining going on.

What perserverence you have, it's a wonder you haven't been dreaming of these men, ..... you certainly deserve a break, I'd have RSI & bung eyes by now, ;D

Well done,

Yvonne
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Post by: Tephra on Tuesday 06 May 08 13:47 BST (UK): I've just gone back and looked at the original again................I'm totally Gobsmacked at the final picture.

Barbara
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Post by: oldtimer on Tuesday 06 May 08 16:38 BST (UK): Poll!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o

I knew you were a genius, but didn't know you were a miracle worker!!

Absolutely fabulous!!!!
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Post by: mudge on Tuesday 06 May 08 17:18 BST (UK): Hi
Barbara's comment, above, prompted me to look back at the original in more detail as well, and I do remember it after all. :D :D
I actually worked on it for quite a long time, and had removed about two thirds the creases, before deleting the image by mistake when attempting to save it >:( >:(
I was so annoyed, the air turned blue, and I just couldn't face starting it all over again. :( :(
Seeing Poll's final result, I think I made the right decision. I couldn't compete with that (not that it's a competition) In football terms, she's in a league of her own ;) ;)
Mudge
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Post by: oldtimer on Tuesday 06 May 08 19:05 BST (UK): Hi Mudge ;)

I'm sure that Poll would be more than happy to be called the Ronaldo of Restoration!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Flakdodger on Tuesday 06 May 08 19:46 BST (UK): Poll,
Stunning, absolutely stunning. Well done you. There is a niche for you as the specialist aeronautical colourist of Rootschat.
Dave
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Post by: jc26red on Tuesday 06 May 08 20:20 BST (UK): ;D ;D ;D think I need to pass you these 8) will some chilled eye pads and a darkened room ::) ::) ::)

I am absolutely speechless... marvelous and the perseverance, I know just how much went into that restore and colouring - luckily I still had my wits about me at the start of this thread and kept quite :P

well done Poll! you can go and enjoy the sunshine now :D

Jenny
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Post by: woolley on Tuesday 06 May 08 20:26 BST (UK): Poll,
(Second try Internet crashed out)

This is absolutely stunning, of epic proportions, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I can only repeat whats already been said and more so, family can't wait to see the full version, just wish dad was alive to see it.

Frame already planned for original plus restores with restorers name.

By the way just managed to contact elderly reative who was 12 at the time and remembers it was at Binbrook with all nationalities including the RAAF.

Bye for now

Woolley

Ps Recommended reading for those who had relatives based in Lincolnshire during this period "Bomber Boy" a factual account
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Post by: nineyman on Tuesday 06 May 08 20:47 BST (UK): Poll.

Absolutely brilliant, great work, Genius!

Nineyman
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 06 May 08 21:48 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 01:16 BST (UK)
ok here's an adapted version without the camaflague and black propellers ... WE AIM TO PLEASE !! ;D

Perfick now!

And oh yes, you do please...! :-*
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Post by: scrimnet on Tuesday 06 May 08 21:52 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Tuesday 06 May 08 01:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Mudge ... AW have you missed me ?? ;D ;D ;D I think I must have been quite mad to do this .. The large version is a ginormous 19 mbs ... for a print 12 inches by 4 ! As for Scrimnet ... I dont have any problem with what he posted but thanks for being gallant ;)... ...it's all information we all learn from ... and in the end I did want it to look as real I want to as possible .. Trouble is my colour co ordination tends to revolve round clothes and Interior design ...old planes colours are pretty low on my list of things I 'm famililiar with !! I have a feeling though that I could get addicted to old soldiers !! ;) ;D ;D
Poll

Oi!!!!

I'm not old at all!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 07 May 08 02:08 BST (UK): Goodness me I have been out all day and buzy most of this evening ... WHAT A LOVELY RESPONSE FROM YOU ALL .. :-* :-* you're all very kind ... But to be fair ... it wasn't all that difficult ....just time consuming as there was just so much to do .. Mudge !! How could you forget that you had been working on this pic !!???? I think I know every single face on it now !!
Dee Trish and Patrish ... Oooer girls thank you for popping in to see all these lovely airmen ;) ;) and for being so generous with your support :-*
Jenny, I'll take you up on the eyepads .. Cold tea bags are leaving a stain .... and they make rotten tea after ! ;D ;D
Yvonne .and Genie ... THANKS :-*... ...I've learned a lot from this experience .... ::)
Think twice before opening one's mouth .... and never volunteer !! ;D ;D
Barbara and Judy ... er this seems like deja vu ... thanks again .. :-* Rabbit ... you've always been a staunch supporter of the work we all do on the restoration board ...we all appreciate it .. ;)
Dave .... oi dont you go volunteering me for that job ... but thanks for your support too ;D ;D
Woolley !! I'm just really pleased that you and your family feel this is worthy of a place in your album ... I t means a lot to me .. Have pmed ya .. and last but not least Scrimmers .... Why do I always feel as if I should be standing to attention and ready for inspection whenever you turn up ..... ;D ;D

Actually I had just restored and coloured a load of soldiers on a pic for woolley on a different board, that he hadn't even asked for and that was why I said I was getting addicted to old soldiers! :D ;D ;D I wouldn't dream of calling you an old soldier .... :o :o
.Not unless I had a fifty yard start anyway ! ;D ;D I hope I havent forgotten anyone who has been kind enough to post on here .. If I have .... I'll blame it on deteriorating eyesight !! ::) ;D
Poll :)
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Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 07 May 08 02:11 BST (UK): This is why I could be accused of getting addicted to men in uniform ! ;D ;D!
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Post by: little meg on Wednesday 07 May 08 03:28 BST (UK): What great pics, must have missed this one.

poll, love the clouds etc, see what you mean.
Well done!!

Margaret
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Post by: ymfoster on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:09 BST (UK): Another great job Poll, ;D

I have a long rolled up pic somewhere, I think it's either soldiers or a big board meeting around 1930's ;)

but I'm not wanting it restored ;) :P

Yvonne
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: little meg on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:25 BST (UK): Aw go on Yvonne, Poll has proven she can tackle it ;D ;D :P

Margaret
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Post by: ymfoster on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:32 BST (UK): LOL Margaret, ;D

I couldn't scan it very easily, & flattening it would cause cracking ;D

Yvonne
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 07 May 08 09:51 BST (UK): Quote from: ymfoster on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:32 BST (UK)
LOL Margaret, ;D

I couldn't scan it very easily, & flattening it would cause cracking ;D

Yvonne

:o :o For Gawds sake Yvonne dont do that !! ;)
Poll
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: ymfoster on Wednesday 07 May 08 09:57 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Wednesday 07 May 08 09:51 BST (UK)
Quote from: ymfoster on Wednesday 07 May 08 07:32 BST (UK)
LOL Margaret, ;D

I couldn't scan it very easily, & flattening it would cause cracking ;D

Yvonne

:o :o For Gawds sake Yvonne dont do that !! ;)
Poll

Don't panic Poll, ;D
I'm not going to do that ;) :P

Yvonne
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Post by: jc26red on Wednesday 07 May 08 10:06 BST (UK): ;D ;D ;D
I have an old school photo that would look good in colour... ;D ;D ;D

when I said old school photo, I mean - the whole school, you know on one of those long panoramic photos... :P :P :P

ok just ducking out now before Poll throws something at me. :-*
or tells me to do it myself,or words to that effect!

Jenny

Love the other one for Woolley too

Poll, I limit colouring to under 12 people...preferably only one if I lose count then its too many
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Post by: Rabbit B on Wednesday 07 May 08 10:54 BST (UK): Hi Polly,

I tell it as it is thats all! If it were not brilliant, I would be inclined to stay away!

I love the other picture too, how would you like a whole battalion to tackle? Only kidding! Thinks! It would look good in colour though! That was taken in the days when I had someone in uniform and was very addicted to him! I still am, it will soon be 50 years since we married!

Thanks for your very kind comments, they are so very much appreciated!

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Wednesday 07 May 08 14:58 BST (UK): Rabbit ... if you are serious about a battalion ... email me ... shhh :-X :-X
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jc26red on Wednesday 07 May 08 15:47 BST (UK): Poll.....ssshhhhh, I know Rabbit well, you will receive the picture asap, if you haven't already :-X
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Post by: Flakdodger on Wednesday 07 May 08 16:46 BST (UK): And when you have done Rabbit's battalion, how about colourizing a snap of the pebbles on my local beach?
Dave :-*
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Post by: Rabbit B on Wednesday 07 May 08 17:15 BST (UK): Well Well Well, I would not have believed it at all!

You lot haven't got a very high opinion of me have you! LOL

How could you think that of me JCred! As if I would! ;)

Dave dear! Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit', please 'place your mind on a higher plain, like wot I do'! ::)

Do not forget the wise words of Omar Kyam any bright spark who wishes to add to this salt in the wound! :'(

'The moving finger writes and having writ moves on! For all they piety nor wit can move it back to cancel half a line, nor all thy tears wash out a word of it'! [I think that the copywrite has run out on that after 1000 years]

Thanks so much for the offer Polly, it is so very much appreciated, but no thanks! :-* I have too much respect for your eyes!

Rabbit B ;D

PS Good ere init!
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Post by: jc26red on Wednesday 07 May 08 17:22 BST (UK): just teasing Rabbit as well you know :-*
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Post by: Rabbit B on Wednesday 07 May 08 17:39 BST (UK): Quote from: jc26red on Wednesday 07 May 08 17:22 BST (UK)
just teasing Rabbit as well you know :-*

Me too :-* The picture I have was the Royal Berkshire Regiment in Malta, where they were deployed before being sent to Africa in the Suez crisis.

Until it was published in the Daily Paper I had no idea where OH had been sent. In the end they were all sent to Cyprus instead! Very dangerous it was too.

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: PaulaToo on Wednesday 07 May 08 18:10 BST (UK): Fink we are getting a bit too serious here...

I remember dear Frankie Howard had a version of the moving finger quote...

The moving finger writes
And moves on having writ,
So darling please remember,
........and go careful where you sit.....
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Post by: Rabbit B on Wednesday 07 May 08 22:38 BST (UK): Hi Paula,

That one is better I think! I am not very good at little 'jokeyls'

Back to the RAF I think!

Rabbit B ::)
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jmp on Thursday 08 May 08 03:04 BST (UK): Poll I think you are absoluetly marvellous. ;D ;D ;D

I have just come across this thread tonight, and strangely enough came across our own photo yesterday when I was decluttering my wardrobe. I have just gone beetling upstairs to find it and had forgotten that it had the names of the men on it. So in case anyone might have had rellies in No 7 Pathfinder Force based at Oakington in Cambridgeshire in April 1945 I am posting it below. If you find a rellies name then I am afraid that you will have to count to get to him ;)

I am afraid that I do not have the skill to put the 2 halves together like Wooley so if anyone is able to amalgamate them I would love to have a copy of the "whole" as it were. I have taken the time to check that I havent cut anyones name off but there are a few "duplicated" men as it were

Fingers crossed ( as this is my first post of piccies :P :P :P)

Jackie
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Post by: chinakay on Thursday 08 May 08 06:32 BST (UK): Hi Jackie, and congratulations on posting your first photo :)

You will get better results if you post these in a new thread, though, as many people don't revisit old threads due to time or bandwidth restrictions. You will have to rename the pics because RC won't let you post the same photo more than once, but just adding a letter or number to the file name will do.

Great pic! Please do repost to share it with everybody.

Cheers,
China
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Post by: PaulaToo on Thursday 08 May 08 09:30 BST (UK): How smashing to have all the names there as well...that's a real lucky stroke....but imagime trying to put the names to the people, you would get about a dozen in from the side and....now was it that one or that one, and what row was I on and.......who am I? :D
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Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 08 May 08 10:15 BST (UK): Hi Jackie,

What a lovely picture, thank you for having put it up for us to see.

I recognise several names in there from my Dad's Service days. I wonder if they are the same people.

Rabbit B ;D
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Post by: mudge on Thursday 08 May 08 10:49 BST (UK): Hi Jackie
Here it is, resized, and put back together again, with its rhs propellors repaired ;) ;) ;)
Mudge
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Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 08 May 08 10:53 BST (UK): Wow Mudge,

You are clever! That is brilliant!

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: mudge on Thursday 08 May 08 10:57 BST (UK): Glad you approve Rabbit :-[
Here's a slightly larger version ;)
Mudge
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Post by: Rabbit B on Thursday 08 May 08 11:25 BST (UK): Oh thank you Mudge,

I am trying to read the names! Super!

Rabbit B ;D
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Post by: jmp on Thursday 08 May 08 14:11 BST (UK): Thank you very much indeed Mudge. ;D ;D

It will certainly make it easier for people to find their rellies if they wish.

I have put a link to it on the WW2 board as well.

I do think it would be a great idea if we could set up a child board for this sort of thing with perhaps seperate parts for the Army, Navy and Raf and any other groups. I would love to see if anyone else has photos they wish to show. I have rellies who were in WW2 but I have no photos of them, maybe someone out there has ;)

Jackie
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Post by: Tephra on Thursday 08 May 08 14:22 BST (UK): That's a wonderful photo JMP and to have the names as well, that's a bonus.

Thanks Mudge for putting it back together, it's brilliant.

Barbara
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: mudge on Thursday 08 May 08 15:37 BST (UK): Hi
Have repaired top of cockpit, and reposted above
Mudge
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jmp on Thursday 08 May 08 15:53 BST (UK): Thank you very much Mudge ;) It got chopped off in the scan ::)

Jackie
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Post by: Flakdodger on Thursday 08 May 08 17:25 BST (UK): Jackie,
what a splendid photo - and with a name placard too. Can I strongly urge you to send a copy to The Royal Air Force Museum?
research @rafmuseum.org
In addition you might like to go to
www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk
and search on 7 Squadron, where you will find a goodly number on unit veterans lined up for contact.
7 Squadron was at Oakington from 18 Aug 42 thru 23 Jly 45. Even without your specialist knowledge of the photo, it would be reckoned to be late war period, due to the IFF aerials on the nose sides and the clear vision panels on the nose blister of the Lanc.
By April 1945, there was very little left to bomb in Germany, so we might imagine that there is a background feeling of relief amongst the sitters.
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Post by: jmp on Thursday 08 May 08 17:41 BST (UK): Thanks Dave, that is great information.

I will certainly go to the sites you suggest. ;) ;)

In fact my Dad is not on the photo itself. ::) ::) He was transferred to the Lancaster Finishing School in the April for conversion on to Lancastrians and subsequent secondment to BOAC in June so he must have been given the photo by his mates to remember them

I am very lucky in that he wanted to be a journalist and therefore kept a "diary" of sorts with details of all the ops he went on (102) and has accompanied it with photos of the squadrons, Stirling, Wellington and Mosquito as well as the Lancs. Alas most dont have the names on them. This is the "longest/largest" photo I have but others are smaller and equally impressive, but you do have to have good eyesight to spot him, and mine is fading fast ;D ;D

Jackie :D
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Post by: Thudnut on Thursday 08 May 08 18:12 BST (UK): Hi Jackie,
that photograph is absolutely superb! I'm ex 7 Squadron myself (a bit later than the date of the photograph, though!), and also a member of 7 Squadron Association. I have pointed out this thread to our Chairman.

If your father was on 7, you are also entitled to become a member of the Association. Check out the website: http://www.7squadronassociation.org/

What other information do you have relating to the Squadron?

I've also sent you a pm.
Regards,
Thudders
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Post by: jmp on Thursday 08 May 08 18:57 BST (UK): Hi Thudders,

I have just pm'd you

Jackie ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Sunday 11 May 08 21:48 BST (UK): Hi to all you restorers out there,

Have finally been contacted by RAF Lincs-Binbrook website re original restores by Caz and Kali,

quote
"What a fantastic photograph! Yes please, always happy to take any content
which adds a more personal touch."

So if any one out there as any stories or pics which they could send to info@raf-lincolnshire.info

please feel free to do so

Woolley
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Post by: jmp on Sunday 11 May 08 22:13 BST (UK): Well done Woolley and all the restorers

Thudnut is very kindly going to pass my photo onto 7 Sqdn for me ;D ;D

Thanks everyone again for all your input

Jackie
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Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 11 May 08 22:42 BST (UK): Quote from: woolley on Sunday 11 May 08 21:48 BST (UK)
Hi to all you restorers out there,

Have finally been contacted by RAF Lincs-Binbrook website re original restores by Caz and Kali,

quote
"What a fantastic photograph! Yes please, always happy to take any content
which adds a more personal touch."

So if any one out there as any stories or pics which they could send to info@raf-lincolnshire.info

please feel free to do so

Woolley

Good for you Woolley, I am sure that they will be very glad to get those pictures!

History has been made and you have been part of it!

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 11:54 BST (UK): I'm asking on your thread woolley as I know there are people on here who will know the answer to this question ...so sorry to hijack your thread ... :-* but can anyone of you RAF buffs give me a link to a coloured pic of mosquito plane
c.1944 I need the correct colours for a restore I am doing .. cheers folks ...
Poll :)
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Post by: Thudnut on Friday 16 May 08 12:13 BST (UK): Knock yourself out Poll!

http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/html/sub/mshwapb2.htm#top
Go to aircraft and select the Mozzie from the British Aircraft list.

You do a fabulous job!
Thank you.

Thudders
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Post by: Rabbit B on Friday 16 May 08 12:15 BST (UK): Hi Polldoll,

Try this site http://duxford.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConMediaFile.5056

I have seen the mosquitos there!

Rabbit B ;D
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Post by: Polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 13:43 BST (UK): Thanks jan and Thudders .... Just want to remind folks too that today is the 65th anniversary of the Dambusters famous raid .... and register my respect in remembrance those that paid the ultimate price on that occasion ...over 50 men I believe didnt return to RAF Scampton .. I just saw a flypast on the news by a lone Lancaster over Derwent Water where they trained . Wow ...terrific
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Post by: scrimnet on Friday 16 May 08 17:54 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 11:54 BST (UK)
I'm asking on your thread woolley as I know there are people on here who will know the answer to this question ...so sorry to hijack your thread ... :-* but can anyone of you RAF buffs give me a link to a coloured pic of mosquito plane
c.1944 I need the correct colours for a restore I am doing .. cheers folks ...
Poll :)

It all depends on what mark of Mossie it is and what role it was in!!!

Here's a different one...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03fo/

and another...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03fn/

;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: scrimnet on Friday 16 May 08 18:01 BST (UK): Of course from June 1944, it would have had D-Day stripes on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZLnOlaFGac&feature=related
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Post by: Polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 18:53 BST (UK): What amazes me is that it was wooden wasn't it ? Thanks for the links ...amazing footage ...
Poll
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Post by: macphail on Friday 16 May 08 19:02 BST (UK): Quote
This is absolutely stunning, of epic proportions

I couldn't have put it better myself. Hats off to those guys. and the restoration job. Just brilliant

Pete
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: scrimnet on Friday 16 May 08 19:22 BST (UK): Quote from: polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 18:53 BST (UK)
What amazes me is that it was wooden wasn't it ? Thanks for the links ...amazing footage ...
Poll

It was known as the wooden wonder....And could take quite a lot of damage...read some of the comments on YouTube.... ;D
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Post by: Polldoll on Friday 16 May 08 19:47 BST (UK): Thanks Pete .... I 'm still recovering from it ;)... a big job it was ... but when you think of the sacrifices made on our behalf ... it puts things into perspective very quickly ... .. the Lancaster and the Spitfire in particular seem to be part of the British psyche ... and held in a huge amount of collective love and nostalgia ...and just listening to the sound of that Lancaster today on the news ... you can see why ... tis a sound synonymous with sacrifice and courage ...
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Post by: Flakdodger on Friday 16 May 08 20:10 BST (UK): Poll,
give me a PM if there are any camou things that you are unsure about.
Dave
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Post by: mare on Friday 16 May 08 20:15 BST (UK): Hi Poll
We have the last surviving pilot from that "Dambusters" raid here in NZ and he is an invited guest to witness the flight to mark the anniversary.
89 yr old Les Munro of Tauranga New Zealand, an acquaintance of my father-in-law who was a Sunderland pilot.
mare
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Post by: Polldoll on Saturday 17 May 08 01:53 BST (UK): Hi Mare .Yes I saw Les on the News Today ...He looked a real gent ...Did you get some coverage on the news where you are ...? That must have been very emotional for him ... They had incredible skill to fly so low and at night for that operation ... Thanks for telling us about that ... and thanks for the offer to help on the camouflague Dave I'll email you ..
Poll
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Post by: mare on Saturday 17 May 08 02:51 BST (UK): You're up late Poll, 'watch those eyes' ::) meaning take care and rest them of course... didn't see any footage myself although there may have been an item. There was just one tiny snippet in the NZ Herald but it may have been covered
better by other publications. Maybe they'll interview him when he gets home.
mare
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Post by: Polldoll on Saturday 17 May 08 03:03 BST (UK): I'm off now :D ;) ...You might want to look at this Mare ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7404052.stm
Poll... Gnight ;)
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Post by: mare on Saturday 17 May 08 03:59 BST (UK): Absolutely wonderful Poll thankyou
OH had just called me in from the garden to watch a video-on-demand coverage he found on World News, so we have just watched them both and were very impressed. Must get father in law over from next door to have have a look , he'll enjoy seeing them too when he comes in.
:)Thanks
mare
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Post by: liverpool annie on Sunday 25 May 08 22:03 BST (UK): Poll ! .... I just realised that I didn't say anything about "the picture " .... I was so blown away when I saw it ... it stopped me in my tracks !! :D :D :D

What a girl you are .......... wonderful wonderful work !!

Thanks for giving us all so much pleasure !! :D :D
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Post by: David Layne on Friday 30 May 08 21:20 BST (UK): From Australian War Memorial

http://cas.awm.gov.au/TST2/cst.acct_master?surl=735800029ZZZIRTXXCVSXD22622&stype=3&simplesearch=&v_umo=&v_product_id=&screen_name=&screen_parms=&screen_type=RIGHT&bvers=4&bplatform=Microsoft%20Internet%20Explorer&bos=Win32

Formal portrait of members of No. 460 Squadron RAAF, commanded by Wing Commander C. E. Martin, in front of and lined up on the wing of Lancaster Bomber "G for George". This aircraft carried out 90 operational missions over Germany and occupied Europe. "G for George" is now on display at the Australian War Memorial, Canberra
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Post by: liverpool annie on Friday 30 May 08 23:43 BST (UK): Hi David ! .... Can I suggest ..... ?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,134417.0.html

It helps the bruising on the elbows !!

Annie :D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 14 November 10 00:17 GMT (UK): Hi Everyone,

Hope you have all seen this one http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ae6/

On the eve of Remembrance Sunday

Lest we Forget

Rabbit B
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: jmp on Sunday 14 November 10 00:22 GMT (UK): Well done Rabbit and it is worth bumping this up if just for the wonderful restores that people did ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 14 November 10 00:53 GMT (UK): Flipping 'eck when I saw this come up again I thought Woolley had found another three foot wide photo of a bomber for me to restore !!! :o :o :o Phew ! I don't think I could spend another 6 weeks on one photo restore again ;D ;D ;D... well .... when you remember the sacrifices made by so many airman, soldiers and sailors ... it actually seems the very least one can do . Thanks for reminding me of this Rabbit ....and in turn what today Remembrance Sunday is all about..
We will remember them
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Post by: jmp on Sunday 14 November 10 01:05 GMT (UK): Dont forget the one you did for me as well Poll Thank you you are a star;) ;) ;)
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Post by: Polldoll on Sunday 14 November 10 01:36 GMT (UK): Quote from: jmp on Sunday 14 November 10 01:05 GMT (UK)
Dont forget the one you did for me as well Poll Thank you you are a star;) ;) ;)

How can I forget .... ;) It was a priviledge and a pleasure Jmp

It is a thought provoking sight to see these photos again ... So many of those men never came back ...

Poll
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Sunday 14 November 10 18:31 GMT (UK): Thanks for the reminder Rabbit and thanks again to Poll for the wonderful restores she's done for everybody over the years.

Woolley
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Post by: Rabbit B on Sunday 14 November 10 22:18 GMT (UK): Quote from: woolley on Sunday 14 November 10 18:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reminder Rabbit and thanks again to Poll for the wonderful restores she's done for everybody over the years.

Woolley

Hi Woolley,

My pleasure it is such a worthy cause.
I had forgotten how good this thread is. Wonderful restores, fascinating history. Brilliant pictures.

We were so lucky to have a dry ceremony at the war memorial this morning.
The last post does it for me every time. I was so very glad I have dark glasses.

I have just changed my avatar back, now that the day is over.

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 15 November 10 13:09 GMT (UK): Quote from: woolley on Sunday 14 November 10 18:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reminder Rabbit and thanks again to Poll for the wonderful restores she's done for everybody over the years.

Woolley

Hi Woolley et al,

Have you all seen this wonderful clip http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404052.stm I only spotted it a couple of days ago so in case you missed it have a gander!

It is wonderful to see the Lancaster in flight.

Rabbit B ;D
Title: Re: Is this beyond a restore ?
Post by: woolley on Monday 15 November 10 17:29 GMT (UK): Yes Rabbit it was a lovely sight, it was just down the road from me so I was quite lucky

Cheers Woolley
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Post by: Rabbit B on Monday 15 November 10 17:34 GMT (UK): Quote from: woolley on Monday 15 November 10 17:29 GMT (UK)
Yes Rabbit it was a lovely sight, it was just down the road from me so I was quite lucky

Cheers Woolley

Glad that you saw it.

Rabbit B ;D

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