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Title: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: mothermicheal on Saturday 05 April 08 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone
I do not know what to do next in looking for my Luck's.
This is what I know,
John Luck b 1815 Mayfield Shoemaker  and Elizabeth Foster b 1815 bootbinder. M April 1842 Brighton.

In the 1871 census
 (Tuck) John and Elizabeth are with 4 children Elizabeth (oxley and her son Alfred) Sarah, Mary and John with Jane French and her dau Mary. and then ALFRED 1870 SON.

Then on the 1881census
 John Luck and Elizabeth are with Alfred J Luck, he is now a grandson,
I will not be able to figure out who Alfred's parents are until I can  get birth and marriage cert.
Alfred is my Great Grandfather.

I can not find ANYTHING on John Luck 1815.
I was just wondering if any one could help?

Thanks a lot
Linda
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 05 April 08 17:20 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

I think I've managed to find them on the 1861 census in Brighton
RG09 598 162 18
9 Preeces Buildings, Jubilee Street, Brighton
John Luck, 46, shoemaker born Mayfield
Elizabeth Luck, 46, wife born Hailsham
elizabeth Luck, 18 Ironer born Brighton
John Luck, 15, shoemakers son, born Brighton
Sarah A Luck, daughter, scholar born Brighton
Mary A Luck, daughter, scholar born Brighton

Kerry
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: toni* on Saturday 05 April 08 17:23 BST (UK)
Hi Linda
i have quite a comprehensive list of Lucjs in my tree, two generations married into my Punnetts
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 05 April 08 17:25 BST (UK)
And the 1851
H0107 1645 597 14
52 Pimlico Thomas Street, Brighton
John Luck, 36, shoemaker born Mayfield
Elizabeth Luck, 36, shoebinder, born Hailsham
Elizabeth Luck, 8, scholar born Brighton
John Luck, scholar, born Brighton
Sarah Ann Luck, at home, born Brighton

Kerry
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 05 April 08 17:26 BST (UK)
This looks like John's death

John Luck born about 1815
Died 1882
Quarter - June
District - Brighton
Volume - 2b
page 169

Kerry
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Mum44 on Saturday 05 April 08 17:28 BST (UK)

Not quite sure which birth certificate you needed - but if it was Alfred's

Alfred John Luck registered Q3 1868 Brighton Vol 2b. Pg. 213
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: LeeHall on Saturday 05 April 08 17:31 BST (UK)
1841
House of Correction, Lewes, Sussex
John Luck 25, Prisoner - Higgler(?) Born in County

If this is yours you may be able to find a record of his conviction?

Regards,
Lee
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 05 April 08 17:36 BST (UK)
Higgler - Itinerant peddler. A lot of the Higgler's trade involved barter, rather than money changing hands and the name derives from the resultant haggling.

Kerry
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: LeeHall on Saturday 05 April 08 17:44 BST (UK)
Right - I think that ALFRED JOHN LUCK is the son of JOHN LUCK and JANE FRENCH, but born before their marriage in 1872, Brighton. Obviously the birth certificate should confirm this :)

Lee
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: mothermicheal on Saturday 05 April 08 18:03 BST (UK)
Hi
My thanks to everyone for as normal your very quick replies.

Looking for info on John Luck 1815. Birth and christening.
Higgler- you learn something new every day.

I also thought that john and Jane could have been Alfred's parents but could not understand why he was named Luck  b 1868 then Jane French 's daug was Mary French b 1870, mind you as i'm sure you have all found out anything was possible in those days.

1841 House of correction. How and where will I find any info?

Hi Toni
I think we may have spoken earlier today.
Linda

Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Valda on Saturday 05 April 08 18:23 BST (UK)
LUCK, John         
Elizabeth FOSTER      
Marriage Date:18 Apr 1842 Brighton, Sussex
Husband's Father:Thomas LUCK
Wife's Father:Thomas HARRIS

The full certificate will give Thomas' occupation.

Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: mothermicheal on Saturday 05 April 08 19:58 BST (UK)
Hi Valda
May be a daft question, but where and how do I get this cert?
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Sunday 06 April 08 01:14 BST (UK)
Mothermichael

Just spotted this in the St John Sub Castro babtism registers in Lewes - I know it is to early for your current research, but it just struck a chord

1801 Jan 28, Luck Sarah, f, Phillip / Ann of Heathfield -
Note in the margin says - born the 6th May, 1799 and Baptized in the House of Correction the 28th Jan 1801. Henry & Mary (twins) born 21 Jan 1800, the above are the offspring of Phillip & Ann Luck of Heathfield)

Chris in 1066

Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Valda on Sunday 06 April 08 08:37 BST (UK)
You can order the certificate from the General Regisrty Office online

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

These are the details you need taken from the GRO index

Marriages June quarter 1842 
Brighton registration district 
FOSTER  Elizabeth       
LUCK  John     
Volume 7 Page 358

The GRO index is being transcribed at

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

This shows their coverage so far

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml

Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Mum44 on Sunday 06 April 08 10:05 BST (UK)


And you get Alfred John's birth certificate the same way, using the details I gave, this will tell you who his parents were!
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: sue9 on Sunday 06 April 08 21:15 BST (UK)
Hi

Have you seen under familysearch.org
James Luck chr. 27/9/1818 Mayfield
Father Thomas
Mother Sarah
under batch no C148162 under IGI.
John may have been chr James!!

Sue
Title: Re: Where to look next for my Luck's?
Post by: Valda on Sunday 06 April 08 21:30 BST (UK)
1861 census RG9 648 folio 139
King Street Alverstoke Hampshire
James Luck 43 Head Married Labourer at Labratory Mayfield Suusex
Mary Luck 37 Wife Married

Possible marriage

JAMES LUCK 
MARY BARDEN   
Father:THOMAS LUCK
Father:THOMAS BARDEN   
Marriage:08 FEB 1845   Frant, Sussex

Regards

Valda