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Title: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 05 April 08 01:37 BST (UK)


I am looking for the death of this man shown here having his 103rd birthday in Ontario .... or any other information about him if possible !!

I've been looking for him in America ....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,294322.0.html

St. Thomas Times-Journal St. Thomas, Ontario, Canada
January through March 1930
27 January 1930
Page 3 c8       

103rd Birthday - Capt. Walpole Roland, 25 Jan 1930

http://www.elginogs.ca/newsindexes/timesjournal/sttj1930janthrumar.htm

Thanking you in advance !!

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 18:59 BST (UK)
Hello Annie

There is an article in The Globe (Toronto) Saturday February 21, 1931, page 3. If you would like a copy, pm me. Here it is transcribed:

OBSERVES 104th BIRTHDAY
Port Arthur, Feb 20 - (Special) -
Captain Wapole Roland, R.E., former-
ly pioneer mining engineer here cele-
brated his 104th birthday yesterday.
He is now in Detroit.

LOL, Don't give up on the States locs.

Linda
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 05 April 08 19:10 BST (UK)


Oh Lordy ! ..... this man doesn't stop !!  ::) ::) ::)

Always moving around ....... at least I think so !!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Back to square 1 !!

Thanks Linda !!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 19:29 BST (UK)
Hello Annie

LOL - Oh no! Don't give up on Canada. Looks like he may have died in Canada from info found on the website below:

Walpole ROLAND {CA} (M: ? - 1931 Mar 30)
Old Books & Authors website URL - http://www.authorandbookinfo.com/ngcoba/ro2.htm

Searching Library of Congress website, your man wrote a publication. Must have been in the Algoma region of Ontario for the mining. Info on Algoma West : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algoma_West

LC Control No.: 14022100 
LCCN Permalink: http://lccn.loc.gov/14022100
Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.)
Personal Name: Roland, Walpole, d. 1931. 
Main Title: Algoma West, its mines, scenery and industrial resources ... By Walpole Roland, C.E.
Published/Created: Toronto, Printed by Warwick & Sons, 1887.
Description: 1 p. l., 2 p., 1 l., [3]-217 p. front. (fold. map) illus., plates. 23 cm.
~~~~~~~~
CALL NUMBER: F1059.T5 R7
 Copy 1
-- Request in: Jefferson or Adams Bldg General or Area Studies Reading Rms
-- Status: Not Charged

Cheers,
Linda
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 20:19 BST (UK)
Annie

What an interesting man. Looks like he is officially Alexander Walpole Roland. The Now in Detroit, must have been to visit his daughter.

There is a late birth October 26, 1878 in Algoma District, Ontario for Constance Wapole Roland in Green River that was their permanent address at the time of her birth. The birth was a late registration July 5, 1947 done via a notary Ruth Barrow of Chicago, Ill. Contance was married when she registered her birth - Constance Pratt with address 5747 Linwood, Detroit, MI
Parents:
Alexander Walpole Roland (father) 40 born India, trade: civil engineer,  employed for self
Isabel Watt Roland (mother) 22 born Quebec

Another child, female was born to Alexander Walpole Roland and Isabel Watt on January 20th, 1881 not named.
He signs A. Walpole Roland, with residence Prince Arthurs Landing. Registered in Algoma District.
Update: child named Olive. Dies July 5, 1882 bronchitis. Residence at time Prince Arthurs Landing

Another child, Isabella Grace born 22 April 1887. Residence at time, Tupper St., Port Arthur and occupation surveyor. Isabella Grace died August 18, 1889 in Thunder Bay District, Division of Port Arthur.

I'm looking for his death in Ontario; however, no so easily spotted.

Cheers,
Linda



Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 20:34 BST (UK)
Hello Annie

You can find them on FamilySearch.org for 1881 Canada census

Place: Prince Arthur, Algoma
Alx. Walpod ROWLAND 45 born England
Isabelle ROWLAND  50   born Hudson Bay, Northwest Territories 
Fredrick V. ROWLAND      1   born Ontario
Constance W. ROWLAND      2   born Ontario
Olive ROWLAND     4 months (born January) Ontario   (must have been the unnamed child at time of birth)

Linda


Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 05 April 08 20:49 BST (UK)


I think I got those on the American thread .... I'll have to go and check Linda .... hold that thought !!  :D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,294322.0.html

Annie  :D
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 21:06 BST (UK)
Ok Thanks for linking.

One thing you can be sure of, is that he died in 1931 as per the Library of Congress catalogue record:

Personal Name: Roland, Walpole, d. 1931.

According to cataloguing rules they would have had to have a source for this information to have included it in the record. Not sure how reputable the other site with {CA} 1931 MAR 30, but it looks promising.

Linda
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: waiteohman on Saturday 05 April 08 21:12 BST (UK)
Hello Annie

If he died March 30, 1931, the funeral most likely would have been in April and wouldn't you know it, April isn't indexed for this newspaper:
http://www.elginogs.ca/newsindexes/timesjournal/index.htm

Linda
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Saturday 05 April 08 21:22 BST (UK)


I was just going to say .... OK ! we think we have a date !!  ::) ::) ::) :-\

Oooooh ! he is the most frustrating man !!  :)
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: JamesW on Monday 07 April 08 18:41 BST (UK)
Annie;
            I will do some checking on a date for his death.I will see if i san get a dearh certificate from the State of Michigan.
                            Jim
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: JamesW on Monday 07 April 08 18:42 BST (UK)
Annie;
            I will do some checking on a date for his death.I will see if I can get a dearh certificate from the State of Michigan.
                            Jim
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Monday 07 April 08 19:01 BST (UK)


Thanks for looking Jim !

It would be great to see where he eventually rested !

Annie  :)
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: kiddo on Wednesday 09 April 08 08:47 BST (UK)
Alexander Walpole Roland m. Isabella Watt 20 Dec 1875 Thunder Bay District
(her estimated year of birth 1851)
"Bella" Roland died 1901 Thunder Bay District (Port Arthur) at the age of 48...

Thats all so far
Kiddo ???
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: loo on Monday 14 April 08 02:36 BST (UK)
I suggest you ask the librarian at St. Thomas Public Library (Elgin County) to check for a newspaper obit for you.  I know that they did that for someone else, at my suggestion, and sent the obit to her.
It's possible that the newspapers for that month have not survived, which is why they are not indexed, but the librarian will know.
Failing that, I would try the London Free Press, in London, Ontario.  London is very close to St. Thomas, and is a much larger centre.  No matter where he died, it's likely the local paper(s) carried the obit, for one of such an age!
http://www.st-thomas.library.on.ca/index.php/Home/Index   
adultdept@st-thomas.library.on.ca
http://www.londonpubliclibrary.ca/askus/
Title: Re: Death in St. Thomas, Ontario ??
Post by: liverpool annie on Monday 14 April 08 04:28 BST (UK)


Thank you both !! .....

I'm sorry kiddo ... I didn't know you had answered so long ago !!  ::) ::)

Loo ... I'll look through your links and see where to send to !

Annie  :)
Title: Arthur Walpole Roland
Post by: camcait on Wednesday 03 November 21 23:21 GMT (UK)
Late to the party, but so excited to find this info. My great aunt (by marriage) was Constance Roland Pratt. I have her scrapbook about her father the Captain, along with a nice pic made on one of his 100s birthday. Her sister, Marion, lived with my great uncle until her death. I have never seen a copy of the book. I only recently found the Canadian connection on Ancestry. Aunt Connie and my Uncle moved back to GA after he retired from the Illinois Central. They’re both buried here. I’m not at home so I can’t look up any of the info or pictures. Hopefully someone is still interested. Thanks!