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I am trying to locate 1861,1871 census for charles harman b.1853 cheltenham gloucestershire england and all info about his parents and anything else of this tree :-* :-*
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Hi Romanyroff,
I think this looks like him in 1871 ...
1871
RG10/2665 24 9
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
2 1/2 Sherborne Street
Elizabeth Harman, head, wid, 75, Straw Bonnet Maker, b. North Nibley
Eliza, dau, unm, 36, Truss & Bandage Maker, b. Cheltenham
Charles, grandson, 18, Carriage Smith, b. do.
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Hiya Romanyroff
I think I have found Elizabeth in 1861
2 Sherbourne Street Cheltenham
Elizabeth Bail? 66 W head b North Nibley Straw bonnett maker
Elizabeth Harmans 25 U dau b Cheltenham Truss maker
Henry Ed Brown 37 W son in law b London Linen drapers assistant
Edward Peel Brown 4 grandson b Cheltenham
RG9/1798 Folio 59 Page 11
Willow x
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Odd, eh Willow? Where have they hidden little Charles?!
I can see one
Charles Hammon age 7 born and living Cheltenham with a family called Wyld, relationship to household 'not known'. There's also an Amos Hammon age 12 in the household. Was trying to see if they could be Harmans but I certainly can't see Amos on any other census nor a birth!!
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In 1851
2 Sherbourne Street Cheltenham
Elizabeth Harman 55 W head b West Nibley Straw bonnet maker
Elizabeth Harman 17 U dau b Cheltenham truss maker
HO107/1973 Folio 159 Page 2
Now if we can just find them in the 1841 census with the elusive Mr Harman we might be able to start tying down the elusive parents of Charles
Willow x
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Very weird isn't it Tati?!
I'm wondering if there isn't a name change somewhere in this lot
Annoying thing as well is that the baptism records for Cheltenham between 1837 and 1856 aren't on the IGI ::)
Willow x
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I don't blooming believe it! :o
1841
Doynton gloucs
Edward Fox 35 Yeoman Y
Dinah Fox 37 Y
George Fox 12 Y
Edmund fox 10 Y
Edward Fox 75 ag lab Y
Elizabeth Herman 45 N
Elizabeth Herman 9 N
HO107/361 Book 19
Back to the drawing board!
Willow x
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I suggest you send for the birth cert, Romanyroff :P
Charles Henry Harman
Dec 1852 Cheltenham 6a 362
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Lol was just going to post the same (got sidetracked by another post - guess which one Tati lol)
Willow x
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I am also interested in this family. Elizabeth also had a daughter Matilda, who married Henry Edward Brown and left one son, Edward Peel Brown, who was in an orphanage in Cheltenham in 1861. He immigrated to California in 1889 and was an ancestor of my son-in-law. Maybe Matilda's location in 1841 would be a clue to Charles Henry Harman. I suppose there might also have been a son.
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william harman was born cheltenham 1892, UK so there does not seem a link here ? his father was listed as charles harman a gas worker born in cheltenham UK and this is the line I am trying to find this charles harman for the 1861 and 1871 census.There were a few harmans in cheltenham at this time,anyone with info it will be greatly appreciated.