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I am trying to find this relative from my tree and need help to locate him on the 1861 census, then again on the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census
I have located him on the 1871 census living with his aunt Mary Ann Taylor in Kew, with his sister Emily WAGER b. 1855/1856
I also have located him on free bmd.
Euclid Brookes WAGER b. 1854 Easington/Stratford, Warwickshire.
There are 2 marriages listed and a birth Euclid Wager Jun qtr 1886 Woolwich.
1. Mar qtr 1879 Newport. M
2. Dec qtr 1909 Newcastle T
Any help placing these relatives on my tree would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
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1861 - RG9/722; Folio: 58; Page: 3 - Welford, Berkshire (Newbury District)
Village of Wickham
Peter Wager 36 WIDOWER Head Certificated National Schoolmaster born Gloucestershire, Pitchcombe
Emily Wager 7 dau Warks, Eatington
Euclid Brooks Wager 6 son do
Clement Earnest Wager 4 son do
Edith Wager 2 dau Welford Berks
Jane Spencer 30 Housekeeper Windsor
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Hi Dusty (and Newfstar ;))
I think he goes by the name Clement in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=22869779
RG11/3090 68 21
Birth place is right, and there's a sister Emily age 22 born Wickham Berkshire ...
DOH! Should have looked at that 1861 census - sorry ;D
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Based on a Hannah Wager death index entry in Newbury, 4Q1859, then Peter Wager married Hannah Brooks ...
1852
Oct-Nov-Dec
District of Alcester
Warwickshire
Volume - 6d
Page - 866
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Sister Edith - yes ;D
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He seems to have married in Wales in 1879 but I haven't found him in the census
Euclid Brookes Wager 1879 Mar qtr Newport M
Winifred Mary Pugh OR Mary Howell
and then there is a marriage
Euclid Brookes Wager 1909 Dec qtr Newcastle Upon Tyne
Is that him too?
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OK, I did say I'm sorry, Newf! ;D
I've found him in 1891 (well' I believe! :P) - Transcribing :)
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1891
RG12/746 65 12
Hougham, Kent
Dover
131 Clarendon Place
Euclid B Wager, head, 38, Master Gunner R.A, b. Warwickshire Eatingdon
Mary, wife, 38, b. Monmouth Newport
Edith M, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
John E?, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Euclid B, son, 5, scholar, b. Kent Woolwich
Arthur H?, son, 3, b. Malta (can't read)
Hi Gardener :)
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Royal Artillery eh ! - but given kids ages that still doesnt explain where they were in 1881 !
Did you search w/o surnames Gardener ?
Its prolly the younger Euclid who marries in 1909 then ?
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1901
RG13/1432 91 26
Weedon, Northamptonshire
Upper Weedon
Euclid B Wager, head, 48, Lieut & quarter Master R F A, b. Warwick Eakington
Mary, wife, 46, b. Mon Newport
Edith M, dau, 20, b. do.
Euclid B, son, 15, b. Kent Woolwich
Arthur H, son, 13, b. Malta
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Hi
Thanks for all your help
Can you help locate Clement Ernest Wager b. 1856 and Edith Wager b.1858 on the 1871 census?
Parents Hannah Wager d. 1859, then Peter Wager d. 1866
Emily & Euclid Wager with Aunt Mary A Taylor in Kew. in 1871
Would love to know who is minding the younger 2 children.
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Hi Tati, how are you doing?
This might be some of them
1881
St Woollos
2 Alma Street
Mary Wager,head,married,31,no occupation,Somersetshire,Nail?
Ernest Wager,son,4,scholar,Lancs,Manchester
Eilien Wager,dau,2,Monmouthshire,Newport
With births at Newport for
Eileen Louise 1879 Mar qtr
Edith May 1880 Dec qtr
John Ernest 1883 Sep qtr
Not quite sure though and I've got to go to uni now but I'll look more tonight if you ahven't sorted it all by then :)
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Clement is in service in 1871
RG10/3209; Folio: 112; Page: 19 - Ullenhal, Wootton Wawen, Warks.
Barrells Hall
Occupied by Thos Newton - Barrister not in practice
Clement E Wager Servant 14 'Foot-Boy' Warks, Eatington
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Edith was placed in an orphanage :(
RG10/3160; Folio: 154; Page: 4 - Aston, Erdington
'Mr Masons Erdington Orphanage'
Edith Wager 12 Orphan - PoB not known
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You already knew about Hannah's name and death date - do you need 1851 for Peter Wager ?
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Yes, I would like details of Peter Wager in 1851
Any chance you could locate him in 1841 (possible he may still be in Pitchcombe, Gls then)
Thanks again for all your help
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Not too sure about this - doesnt seem to be what a Certificated School master would be only 10 years earlier ...
1851 - HO107/1709; Folio: 303; Page: 4 - Knebworth, Herts
Rectory
Peter Wager Servant 27 Indoors Servant Glos, Painswick
Altho Painswick and Pitchcombe are in the same RD.
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In 1841, you should try and get sight of the handwritten page for this.
HO107/370/16; Standish; District: 9; Folio: 6; Page: 6 - Pitchcombe; detached part of Standish ??
So this small part of the Parish of Standish is also called Pitchcombe it seems ... as well as the place near Painswick in the Stroud Regn District - unless my geography is totally messed up !
Anyway Peter Wager (15) is a 'Male Servant' in the household of Mary Ann Little - there are no other Wagers in the district I can see ?
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Clement is in service in 1871
RG10/3209; Folio: 112; Page: 19 - Ullenhal, Wootton Wawen, Warks.
Barrells Hall
Occupied by Thos Newton - Barrister not in practice[/b]
Clement E Wager Servant 14 'Foot-Boy' Warks, Eatington
Thats interesting, Barrells Hall was my old family home, bought by my Great Great Great Grandfather (William Newton II) in 1861, when he moved from Whatley Hall (now demolished). The family had Barrells for 3 generations up to the mid 1920's.
Thos Newton you refer to above is T.H.G. Newton. He was known by his third name Goodwin (a family christian name) not Thomas. There is a wikipedia page on him I wrote www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwin_Newton
By all accounts they were excellent employers compared to other houses where staff were not always treated properly, being devout Christians this propbaly explains it. (2 of the 3 brothers were Canons)
Hope this helps, if you find out anymore re: Newtons or Barrells be delighted to hear it.
Kind Regards
Edward