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Title: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 09:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,

The curious side of me is just wondering whether it's possible to search the census via a street name?

I live in a pretty old part of York, and just wondering if I can do a search for my street and see who  lived in my street and what they did?

Thanks.

Lee
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: lavinia p on Thursday 27 March 08 10:02 GMT (UK)
Hello LD,
Although I can't help you re an answer yet, I wanted to register my interest in doing this too, and I'm sure it was possible, or at least possible for a short period a few years back, maybe as genealogy on the web was just taking off. I know that I surfed with a friend for a fee and we could search street names/addresses.
Does anyone know if this is still possible, and if so, where? I have a feeling that it was about 2004/5, and perhaps one of the censuses had just been put online?
Thanks all, Lav P
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 10:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

1881 Census you can search by streets


ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 27 March 08 10:11 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Address searches for 1901 on http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Same on www.findmypast.com for 1841/61/71/81/91

both these sites are pay-to-view

on ancestry you would have to look through the enumeration districts for the street name and then trawl through the pages to find it.

Barbara
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 10:25 GMT (UK)
on ancestry you would have to look through the enumeration districts for the street name and then trawl through the pages to find it.

Thats why I was finding it hard - I subscribe to ancestry!

Thanks for the answers.
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: mshrmh on Thursday 27 March 08 10:43 GMT (UK)
Lee - if you're in a position to go to an archive/library/records office that has the York census on film or fiche, you may find that a local society has produced an index - those I've seen elsewhere tend to be in booklet form & list streets & surnames against the census reference, so you then look at the film/fiche for the right area. Much of this work was done before any censuses were put on the internet, so the more recent ones may not be indexed.
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 12:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Lee

If you put the street on here, someone might help you ;)

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 12:36 GMT (UK)
That would be amazing!

Well, I live at 11a Kyme Street, Bishophill, York. (11b is upstairs)

It's a 'converted' ground floor flat and we're led to believe that our flat has been built into and around some sort of tradesman's yard with perhaps the owner living upstairs? On our front facade you can still make out the old brickwork and the footpath has an old cobbled driveway, leading under our loving room floor!!!

With this is mind, I imagine the house number on the censuses would be 11 but obvioulsy, this is just conjecture.

If anyone can help it would be fascinating. :)

Please let me know if i need to start a new thread for this request.

Thanks,

Lee
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 13:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Lee

1891
11 Kyme Street
John Norminton? head wid 75 retired coachman Yorks Burythorne?
Charles    "         son u/m 46 saddler                      "    Norton
Emma       "         dau u/m 44                                   "      "

Rg12/ 3888
folio 139
page 32


ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 13:23 GMT (UK)
Ricky,

Thats absolutely brilliant, thanks ever so much!  ;D

Is it possible to get returns for any other dates??

Thanks again,

Lee  :)
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Lee

1881
is free to search, if you just put Kyme street in the street search box and York in civil parish box

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 13:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks again, Ricky.

I will do just that.

Lee
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 13:35 GMT (UK)
There is no Number 11 in the 1881 census, see
RG11 piece 4720 folio 121 page 34
It seems to go from 8 to 16
Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 13:52 GMT (UK)
I cannot see number 11 in the 1901 census. It seems to go from number 10 to number 12. RG13 piece 4443 folio 22 page 35


Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 13:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

on the 1901

http://www.1901censusonline.com/main.asp?wci=welcome

It says its there.
The one on the 1891 census wasnt run in sequence, was somewhere else ???

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 14:02 GMT (UK)

The one on the 1891 census wasnt run in sequence, was somewhere else ???

ricky

In the 1891 census on page 32 the numbers do run in sequence from 13 at the top of the page to 4 at the bottom.


Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: silvery on Thursday 27 March 08 14:09 GMT (UK)
TOn our front facade you can still make out the old brickwork and the footpath has an old cobbled driveway, leading under our loving room floor!!!
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I hope you don't mind   :)  this made me laugh  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 14:15 GMT (UK)

The one on the 1891 census wasnt run in sequence, was somewhere else ???

ricky

In the 1891 census on page 32 the numbers do run in sequence from 13 at the top of the page to 4 at the bottom.


Stan

Hi Stan
If you look on the page before you will see they dont run in sequence, suggest you look next time.

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 14:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

on the 1901

http://www.1901censusonline.com/main.asp?wci=welcome

It says its there.
ricky


Hi Ricky,
Yes, my fault :( The street is numbered with the even numbers on one side and odd numbers on the other. I have not found the odd numbers yet :(

Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 14:18 GMT (UK)

The one on the 1891 census wasnt run in sequence, was somewhere else ???

ricky

In the 1891 census on page 32 the numbers do run in sequence from 13 at the top of the page to 4 at the bottom.


Stan

Hi Stan
If you look on the page before you will see they dont run in sequence, suggest you look next time.

ricky


I don't know what you mean ??? THe numbers on the page clearly run in the sequence 13, 12, 11, 10, 9A, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4.
I suggest that you look next time >:(
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 14:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Stan

The page before
8, 9 ,10, 15, 14, 13. the on the other page its says 13, 12, 11, 10, 9a
that is what I meant

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 14:38 GMT (UK)
In the 1901 Census at 11 Kyme Street,
Charles Pearson, Signalman, Percy Pearson, son, and Rose L. Pearson daughter, RG13 piece 4443 folio 21 page 33.
Care needs to be taken as sometimes streets were renumbered over time.
Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: stanmapstone on Thursday 27 March 08 14:44 GMT (UK)
One of the commonest renumbering patterns was of a street which began with being numbered along one side and then along the other being changed to odd numbers along one side, and even numbers along the other.


Stan
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: ricky1 on Thursday 27 March 08 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Lee
Wonder how long the street has been there as on the 1871 census, I can find the streets around the area, but not Kyme Street ???. Also on the 1891 there is an Upper Kyme street, which I think starts at the end of Kyme Street.

ricky
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 16:54 GMT (UK)
Hi chaps,

Thanks so much for the answers, much appreciated.

It's strange that there's no reference to the yard or workshop (or an associated professopn) that we've been told existed here, perhaps it was a house, then modified to a flat/workshop/yard sometime after the 1901 census?

Or, maybe if the street renumbering has messed things up . . . .

Think i need to get myself down to the York archives.
Title: Re: Searching the cenus via a location
Post by: Lee_T on Thursday 27 March 08 17:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Lee
Wonder how long the street has been there as on the 1871 census, I can find the streets around the area, but not Kyme Street ???. Also on the 1891 there is an Upper Kyme street, which I think starts at the end of Kyme Street.

ricky
Hi Ricky,

Just delved into some books I  have;

The Western end of Kyme Street is built c1867-76 and the eastern end c1882-89. I guess i'm on the more western portion.

Another interesting passage is the description of our row of houses;

"there are workshops, a terrace of houses similar to those of Hampden Street, another small workshop and . . . "
I think we could be the small workshop!  :-*

Is this the sort of stuff the local archives could help me out with?

Cheers,

Lee