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Title: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: cornishgal on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:19 GMT (UK)
I am looking for information on this family. I do not have a marriage or date of death.
Here is what I have.
Jack or John Sampson Roberts was born 1897 and died in 1963 at age 65.
He married Flora Rippon  Date and place unknown.
I do not have a dates for Flora birth or death nor place of burial.
They had two children. Phyllis and Joan ( who died shortly after birth) I do not know where Joan is buried.
Look forward to learning more about this side of my family. ;D
Sheila
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:27 GMT (UK)
Do you have birth years for the 2 children?


Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:36 GMT (UK)
If we find their dates we can pinpoint a marriage date


This is what I have found so far


Birth

Phyllis E O Roberts
Birth registered qrt ending December 1920
Truro
Vol 5c
Page 191

Mother's maiden name = Rippon

So now we have a timescale

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:39 GMT (UK)
Joan was born qrt ending Dec 1921
Truro
5c
189

Mother's maiden name = Rippon


With this information I should be able to find parent's marriage cert - you will have to purchase this but it will give a wealth of information


Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:48 GMT (UK)
Sampson J  Roberts married Emily Flora A Rippon
Qrt ending June 1920
Truro
5c
331

You can order this certificate online here

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

It will cost £7 and will give you names of their fathers'

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 19:57 GMT (UK)
Emily Flora was born too late to appear on the 1901 census

Emily Flora A Rippon
Birth registered qrt ending June 1903
Truro 
Volume 5c 
Page 120

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:13 GMT (UK)
1901 census

Referrah(?) Downs, Perranzabuloe, Truro

Sampson Roberts Head 49 Farmer b Newlyn East Cornwall
Elizabeth J wife 39 b Perranzabuloe
James H son 20 Navvy b Newlyn East
Herbert son 16 Trammer in explosive works(powder) b Perrazabuloe
Annie M son 13 b St Columb Minor
Lottie dau 9 b St Columb Minor
Ernest son 5 b St Columb Minor
Sampson J son 3 b St Columb Minor
Phillis dau 1 b Perranzabiluoe

RG13/ 2219 Folio 96 Page 15


There is also a Sampson W J Roberts with parents Edward and Jane but I thought Phillis clinched it.


You should still really send for the marriage cert to verify his dad ;)

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" Roberts m Flora Rippon
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:15 GMT (UK)
There are Rippon families in Perranzuboloe on the 1901 but you need to get her dad's name first


Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:29 GMT (UK)
1891

Tuncreek Cottages Perranzabuloe Truro

Sampson Roberts Head 39 Engine Driver b Perranzabuloe
Elizabeth J wife  28 b Perranzabuloe
Elizabeth M dau 18 b Newlyn East
James H son 10 b Perranzabuloe
William  son 7 b Perranzabuloe
Herbert son 5 b Perranzabuloe
Annie L dau b St Columb Minor
Ethel dau 1 b St Columb Minor

RG12/1819 Folio 111 Page 15

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:42 GMT (UK)
1881

Rejerrah Downs Perranzabuloe Truro

Sampson Roberts Head 30 Mine Engine Driver b Perranzabuloe
Elizabeth J. Roberts 19 b Perranzabuloe
Clara J. Roberts dau 10 b Perranzabuloe   
Elizabeth M. Roberts dau 8 b Perranzabuloe 
James H. Roberts son 1 month b Perranzabuloe   

 RG11/ 2309 Folio 105 Page 7.

Doesn't look as though Elizabeth is Clara's mother

Tricia





Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:47 GMT (UK)
1871

Ventonerran Alms House

Sampson Roberts Head 20 Mine Engine Driver b Perranzabuoe 
Mary Jane Roberts wife 20 b Newlyn East
Clara Roberts dau 1 month b Newlyn East
 

RG10/ 2257 Folio 50 Page 1

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 20:51 GMT (UK)
Sampson Roberts/ Mary Jane Docking
Marriage registered qrt ending March 1871
Truro
5c
267

Sampson Roberts/ Elizabeth Jane Parnell
Marriage registered qrt ending June 1880
Truro
5c
221


Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 21:02 GMT (UK)
1861

Saddle Rock, Perranzabuloe

James Roberts Head 32 Engine Driver b Perranzabuloe
Mary Roberts wife 31 b St Agnes Cornwall 
Elizabeth Jane Roberts dau 12 b Newlyn
Sampson Roberts son 10 Blende/Blinde(?) dresser b Perranzabuloe 
Phillipa Ann dau Roberts 8 b Perranzabiloe 
Mary Roberts dau 6 b Perranzabuloe 
Ellen Roberts dau 4 b Perranzabuloe
Susan Roberts dau 2 b Perranzabuloe 
James Roberts son 1 b Perranzabuloe 
 
 
 RG9/ 1556 Folio 78 Page 24

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 21:11 GMT (UK)
1851

Hendra, Perranzabuloe
 
James Roberts Head 24 Miner lead  b Newlyn
Mary Roberts wife 25 b St Agnes
Elizabeth Roberts dau 3 b Newlyn   
Sampson Roberts son 1 b Perranzabuloe
William Paull Brother in Law 20 Miner Lead b St Agnes
 
HO107/1909 Folio 452 Page: 30
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 21:28 GMT (UK)
Only James Roberts' in Perranzabuloe of correct age.

I love this place name - rolls off my fingertips now ;D Obviously 'something' in the water with all these children!

1841

Perranzabuloe


John Roberts 45 Agent of Copper mines
Elizabeth Roberts 45
John Roberts 15  Copper miner
Thomas Roberts 15  Cooper miner
James Roberts 13 Copper miner   
Ann Roberts 12 
Elizabeth Roberts 10 
Mary Roberts 8 
William Roberts 5

All born Cornwall

HO107/Folio 36 Page 15

No other information recorded on 1841
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 21:50 GMT (UK)
Sampson Roberts/ Elizabeth Jane Parnell
Marriage registered qrt ending June 1880

The family directly above the Parnells is Thomas Roberts and family - I am assuming he is the brother of James Roberts whose son marries Elizabeth Jane Parnell ;)

1871

Goonhaven, Perranzabuloe

Jane Parnell Head Widow 66 b Peraanzabuloe
Mary Parnell dau 22 Work to mine b Perranzabuloe

next family:


Solomon Parnell Head 29 Lead Miner b Perranzabuloe
Emma Parnell 26 b St Eval Cornwall
Elizabeth Jane Parnell dau 8 b Perranzabuloe
James Parnell son 7b Perranzabuloe
Ann Maria Parnell dau 6 months b Perranzabuloe

RG10/ 2279 Folio 56 Page 9.

Tricia
 
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 22:00 GMT (UK)
1861

Town Chantock Cornwall

James Martyn Head 38 Inn Keeper b St Merryn Cornwall
Mary A Martyn 37 b St Wenn
Elizabeth A Martyn 18 b Mawgan
Ann Roberts visitor 29 Unmar Labourers dau
Solomon Parnell  visitor 20  Iron miner b Perranzabuloe
Edward Parnell visitor 18  Iron miner Perranzabuloe
John Penna visitor 20 Iron miner b Perranzabuloe

RG9/ 1544 Folio 96 Page 11

Back shortly with Soloman's family in 1851

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 23:12 GMT (UK)
1851

Goonhavern

Solomon Parnell 45 b Veryan Cornwall
Jane Parnell 46 b St Ewe Cornwall
James Parnell 14 b St Ewe
Moses Parnell 12 b St Ewe
Solomon Parnell 9 b Lamorran 
Edward Parnell 7 b Lamorran
Mary Parnell 5 b Perranzabuloe
 
HO107/1909 Folio 431 Page 14

Tricia
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 26 March 08 23:22 GMT (UK)
1841

Lamorran, Cornwall

Soloman Parnell 35 Agric lab
Jane 45
Sarah 10
James 5
Moses 3
Soloman 2 months

HO107 Folio 3 Page 9

Tricia

Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: cornishgal on Thursday 27 March 08 00:33 GMT (UK)
I know about the family that John " Jack " to his friends Roberts came from it is the time up to his marriage, after and his death I would like to know about.
John was middle name was "Sampson" after his father.
But I do not have any information on his wife Flora RIPPON and that is my main concern.
They had two children Phyllis and Joan ( Joan died young)
Date of death unknown. Could be buried at Peranzubloe Cemetery.
I have no date of their marriage, not death dates.
I have some information on Phyllis.
AT this present time I am unable to contact Phyllis as I do not have her address and understand she is ill. 
I don't have any idea who Flora Rippon was maybe one of nine children. Some names are: Susan, Jim, Myra, Ena, and George are names mentioned.
That is what I have gleaned after looking over all my notes.
Sheila
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 27 March 08 01:00 GMT (UK)
Due to privacy issues RootsChat is unable to assist in the hunt for any living persons. Information on the living may not be posted to these boards. If anyone is able to assist Sheila with information on the living please do so privately. Thank You for your co-operation in this matter.............Kris  :D

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142443.0.html
Title: Re: John "jack" ROBERTS m Flora RIPPON
Post by: 'Tricia on Thursday 27 March 08 18:47 GMT (UK)
Hi  Sheila

Hope I don't appear churlish but it might have been an idea to make that clear in the first place.

Good luck with your research



Tricia