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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: jean.rob on Wednesday 26 March 08 13:38 GMT (UK)
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Is anyone able to assist please with an 1891 or 1901 (or any other Census year) search for the inhabitants of 20 Ford Terrace, Chilton, Ferryhill, Durham - believe the registration district is Sunderland, St Mary's.
I have tried Find My Past but the properties only go up to No 14 on the search result.
Family I am trying to trace are Robinson. Father's name known to be Joseph, son John Thomas b c1883/4.
Any info would be appreciated.
Many thanks.
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Is anyone able to assist please with an 1891 or 1901 (or any other Census year) search for the inhabitants of 20 Ford Terrace, Chilton, Ferryhill, Durham - believe the registration district is Sunderland, St Mary's.
Many thanks.
Ferryhill is nowhere near Sunderland, and will not be in St. Mary's or any other Sunderland Registration District. :)
Stan
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The Ford Terrace you have looked at on findmypast is in Sunderland, and Chilton is some distance away from that, and definitely not in the Sunderland registration district.
So, sadly, you are looking at the wrong place.
What document have you got this address from, and what date is it?
Jennifer
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In 1891 Ferryhill was in the Stockton Registration District, Sub-District Sedgefield. In 1901 it was in Sedgefield Registration District, Sub-District Cornforth.
Stan
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Hi,
It's a long shot but I found a John T Robinson in Co Durham, but father's name is John ???. Interestingly both father and son were born in Ferryhill, Durham :)
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Greenvalley
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Ford Terrace, Chilton is still there go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and search on the Post Code DL170JG, which will centre the map on to Ford Terrace. Looking at the old maps it was not there in 1891, and probably not 1901, as it does not appear in the address search for the 1901 census. Where did you get the address from?
The numbers in Ford Terrace go from 1 to 42.
Stan
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The address is on my late father-in-law's Birth Certificate in 1912.
His parents' Marriage Certificate in 1908 also showed them both living in West Chilton.
I had hoped that they may have been living with John's parents at the date of their marriage and that this would be the same address and would have given his parents' details.
Unfortunately with a name like Robinson I am not having much luck as I do not even know where John was born. I have had much more success on his wife's line.
I will try searching the other districts.
JEAN
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Does the 1908 marriage certificate give Joseph's occupation?
Jennifer
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I'm almost certain he was a Miner - both father and son were. I will have a look at the certificate when I get home to confirm.
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Hi
have you tried North East Forum website they have a page for Ferryhill and Chilton and a separate genealopgy page.
www.neforum2.co.uk
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Thank you for that last posting - I found that site very interesting.
Having looked at the Birth and Marriage Certs I am wondering whether the West Chilton shown as residence at time of marriage (1908) was in fact West Chilton Terrace, which seems to show up in some references.
Would anyone have any idea when either of these Roads - West Chilton Terrace and Ford Terrace - may have been built please?
I note Ford Terrace is noted for demolition in the near future!
Jean
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I have already pointed out that Ford Terrace is NOT in the 1901 Census :) West Row, Chilton was, but I don't know whether or not this is the same as West Chilton Terrace. If you go to the map I referred to you can look at maps of various dates, and see what was there.
Stan
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Thank you Stan
I know that Ford Terrace is not on the 1901 Census but West Chilton certainly is! It shows up on the 1901 Census site twice, when you do an address search for West Chilton.
Does anyone have free access to the 1901 please? If not I will do a paid search on the Census site.
Jean
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Thank you Stan
It shows up on the 1901 Census site twice, when you do an address search for West Chilton.
Jean
West Chilton in 1901 is a farm. I don't know why the 1901 Census Site has two addresses, unless it is because Ainsley and Stanley Wilkinson are on the next page with a different reference. Ancestry has only one entry for West Chilton;
RG13 piece 4632 folio 154 page 16
Robert Wilkinson, head, 40, Farmer.
Hannah Wilkinson, wife, 40
Mary E. Wilkinson, daughter, 14
Robt. W. Wilkinson, son, 13
Jenny Wilkinson, daughter, 11
RG13 piece 4632 folio 155 page 17
Ainsley Wilkinson, son, 9
Stanley Wilkinson, son 7.
The farm is also shown on the O.S. map at
http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm
Stan
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Since there is neither a Ford Terrace or West Chilton Terrace in the 1901 census, might I suggest that the houses designated Windlestone Colliery or Ferryhill Station or else Front and Back Chapel Row, may have been later given individual Terrace names and house numbers as being more dignified. This is what occurred with the row of colliery houses that I live in.
The only Robinsons in Chilton at 1901 are;
Denison Tce, Wm Robinson 25 gunpowder merchant, boarder
Ferryhill Station, Mary Robinson 19 servant
5 Front Chapel Row, Hannah Robinson 47 widow, son Frank 17 Coalminer putter, Thomas 15 Colliery bank stone picker
Hope this helps
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There was a major expansion of Chilton between 1901 and 1911. The population in 1901 was 1,411 and in 1911 it was 6,070, which seems to be born out by the large number of houses that had been built between the 1894-1899 map and the 1919-1926 map.
The workforce a Chilton Colliery was 133 in 1902 and 1,416 in 1914. Windlestone Colliery is a different village, the streets were named Albert St., Arthur St., Prospect Terr., South View, and Durham Road.
Stan
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There is a possible father/son in Co Durham on the 1891 and 1901 census :
1891 : Long Row, Littletown, Pittington, Co. Durham.
Joseph Robinson, head, 34, Coalminer, b. Spennymoor,
Mary J. Robinson, wife, 33, b. Old Hartlepool,
William W. Robinson, son, 13, Driver in Pit, b. Castle Eden Colliery,
Samuel Robinson, son, 8, b. Ludworth,
John T. Robinson, son, 6, b. Ludworth,
Joseph Robinson, son, 4, b. Littletown,
George Robinson, son, 11 months, b. Littletown,
Mary H. Dickinson, niece, 11, b. Kelloe.
1901 : Littletown, Pittington, Co. Durham,
Joseph Robinson, head, 44, Coal Hewer, b. Spennymoor,
Mary Jane Robinson, wife, 43, b. Hartlepool,
William W. Robinson, son, 23, Coal Hewer, b. Castle Eden,
Samuel Robinson, son, 18, Coal Miner Putter, b. Ludworth,
John T. Robinson, son, 16, Labourer Above Ground, b. Ludworth,
Joseph Robinson, son, 14, Coal Driver Underground, b. Littletown,
George Robinson, son, 10, b. Littletown,
Albert Robinson, son, 7, b. Littletown,
Mary Robinson, dau, 4, b. Littletown,
Marshall Robinson, son, 1, b. Littletown,
Ludworth was in Pittington Parish, in Durham Registration District.
There is a birth of a John Thomas Robinson in Durham Reg District, Dec 1884, vol 10a, p414.
Probably no way of knowing for sure if this is your John / Joseph until the 1911 census is released.
Alan.
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Thank you both Stan and Peter for the additional information.
I will check out those Robinsons to see if anything comes out of that - Hannah would have been around the right age to have maybe been the mother.
Jean
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Sorry Wolfie - I did not check page 2 !!
I had come across this family before and am hoping this is the one. I think you may be right about the 1911 giving me more info - I will then be able to check John and his wife Jane out and hopefully the birthplace will confirm.
Many thanks for that.
Jean
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Durham County Libraries have a book called
Chilton, Windlestone and Rushyford an industrial and social history
It has about Chilton Mining in it.
Jolly Roger
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Ford Terrace is on a Circa 1919 map of Chilton, or Chilton Buildings as it was called then (Don't know if I'm allowed to post a copy here), and it's still there now. I went to have a look the other day, as my Dad was born at No.8 in 1925. It doesn't seem to be on the 1911 Census, so must have been built between 1911 and 1919.
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As I posted previously: Ford Terrace, Chilton is still there go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and search on the Post Code DL170JG, which will centre the map on to Ford Terrace. You can see it on Google Street View at http://www.rootschat.com/links/0con/
Stan
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I was wrong. Ford Terrace Chilton IS in the 1911 Census. In the summary book for No.20, the Head of household is Mr. Robinson, and he has 2 females living with him.
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Thanks for your response Catleugh. I too have found the entry for 20 Ford Terrace which does show my husband's grandfather, grandmother and aunt. His father was born at number 20 in 1912!
Jean
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Jean, if you would like me to photograph 20 Ford Tce, please let me know, I pass there regularly.
Best wishes
John
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Don't know if anybody is still interested. Ford Terrace does not appear in the Jan 1909 Election Register, but it is there in the Jan 1910 one.
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Thanks for that last posting - I have now been supplied with a photo of the actual house - many thanks.