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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: clivealbert on Friday 21 March 08 15:03 GMT (UK)
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Hi, List , I am hoping to be given a water colour picture of my gt. grandfather John Reynolds b 1868 d.1896 would it be possible for those dedicated restorers to clean it up and if possible give details of the artist. that could be a puzzle I hope to put on the list Best wishes Clive
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Hi Clive, I am not a restorer but as nobody else seems to have replied let me venture an opinion: Maybe ;D
Hopefully it will fit on a scanner bed. Scan it at 300 dpi resolution at least, in colour of course (but even for b&w photos, they should be scanned in colour) and post it as close to the 500kb limit as possible.
As for the artist, is it signed? Legibly? That would be a plus :D
This will bump the topic back to the top so you may get further opinions.
Cheers,
China
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clive, when you get the painting please post it, i am sure you will get a great response, kali.
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Hi Clive
If you have the original and need it cleaned, it would be best to take it to a fine art restorer/conservator. There should be some in your local Yellow Pages.
I'm sure we'll have a go at cleaning up a scanned copy though. Also, when you print the restored versions out, it might be best to print it on Watercolour paper.
Regards
Gadget
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Agree with Gadget ...but will be happy to cleana scanned version on here for you ....especially as a grand father, a great grandfather and numerous uncles share the same name ... we may be related .... ;D
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Hi,List,now have water of my gt. grandfather ,john Reynolds b,1868 northants,He was a coal miner and was killed in aroof fall at Manners Colliery Ilkeston 21dec. 1896. My aunt has a portrait in oils of the same picture, by A.E.Foster. the puzzle is how could a coal miner afford such apainting by what seems a professoinal artist. Best Wishes Clive
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Hi Clive
Here is my clean up
Irene
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Hello Clive,
Here's one from me.
Jim
Larger one available
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Hoi Clive ... two from me ...one in a watercolour to try and maintain the authenticity of what the original may have looked like and one in a gouache .. Larger ones for printing purposes available if you pm me
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Any relation to the John and Thomas Reynolds from Thurning area of Northampton ....???
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and a gouache version ...
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Hi Clive :D
What you have there is a watercolour painting that is over the top of a photograph :)
The photo has faded away almost to nothing, so all we can see now is the paint.
Just thought you might like to know ;) :D
Cheers
Prue
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Heres my version, it should print out at A4.
Mike.
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my attempt for ya
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Hi
Here's a resized cleanup, kept as near as possible to the original
mudge
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no better im afraid, kali.(http://)in fact he has almost disapeared, i must get this resising thigng sorted??
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Here's my try.
Nan
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Hi, List ,Awesome, to everyone ,Brilliant your skills make me jealous, I will make copies onto water colour paper as suggested, and present to family members. to EVERYONE who DID such Wonderful WORK , my many thanks.I hope to PM all who took part my special thanks
Best Wishes to ALL. Clive
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Yes! This was the "thread." I know. I placed a bid on it. I can't find one item on this English painter anywhere--a week's worth of work searching the internet. However, in the previous thread the person, you Clive?, said you had a painting of the same author. It can't be the same picture, can it? The story was about a father who was a miner who most likely couldn't afford it with this same name. Do you have another painting by this painter and do you know anything about it?
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Wow, this story is getting interesting. Did AE Foster do the watercolor of your grandfather? Was he part of an art school? movement? from Derbyshire?
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As the picture is an overpainted photographic portrait, the artist may not have been an 'establishment' one...he may have been a local painter or even a family friend.
Best places to look for nationally-recognised artists are the National Portrait Gallery and Tate Britain, both of which have online databases.
Cheers
Prue
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Ah, see you've already found it, Yankee :)
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Hi, The "watercolour" is on Winsor&Newton board which made me think it was an original watercxolour. The experts on rootschat have put me right.The Oil painting, by A.E. Foster, is framed 50cm by70cm.
My aunt keeps it in a wardrobe, I have seen it once quite a few years ago, my sister is visting her at present and I have asked my sister if she could get a photo of it. I
will be visiting my aunt in September, and will ask her.
My aunt ,aged 86 does not think much of family history, and she thought i could find better things to do. The picture is of my great grandfather who was killed in a mining accidenf at manners Cooliery 21 Dec 1896.
Best wishes Clive
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Hi,Yankee1, the watercolour and oil are the same subject which made me think that it was a professional artist, the watercolour being done before the oil. my grandfather was a coal miner,who would not have been on alarge wage in the 1890. However his wife came from afamily who had a number of shops in ilkeston.
best wishes Clive
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One from me :)
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Hi, The "watercolour" is on Winsor&Newton board which made me think it was an original watercxolour.
If the watercolour is on an artist board then I will revise my previous comments, and say that it's a direct copy from a photograph :) The reason I said it was an overpainted photograph is that its format is exactly that of a carte-de-visite photograph of that era - a head and shoulders portrait in an oval vignette. I'd say the artist was working from such a photograph when he did his watercolour rendition, and then perhaps he worked from his watercolour to make the larger one in oils.
Cheers
Prue
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Whoever photographed, painted water colour or oil or what ever would be proud of how their work has been improved so many years later. Congratulations to all of you - a wonderful job.
Abiam2
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You may remember our discussion regarding AE Foster. I discovered a Reverend AE Foster at Christchurch, Richmond in the late 1890s and early 20s. I can't seem to find the exact church as there are too many with this name. There appears to be a site which you have to pay for in order to get pictures which I believe there is a few of this person. It would be interesting to find out if these two AEs are the same person, if the vicar was also a painter of high regard. My signature on my painting is different than this one. The shape of the T differs and all the other letters are in lower case shape. There is another person in France who has a painting and we are trying to investigate to see what we can come up with. They have a 1927 painting with "Didsbury" and a farmhouse in the image.
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Well ladies and gents, here comes the fun part. I found another person who has apparantly another painting from AE Foster. This person is in France. Here is the reply:
"I Live in France and found it a bootsale, how it got here I do not know. It is in very good condition, and I think it has the orignal frame.not bad for 84 years and all the travelling.I wonder if the farmhouse painted in the picture still exists in Didsbury?." There was another part of this message that I can not find: something written on the back of the painting dated 1927, "Shrewsbury"? Meadowdale?" Can't exactly remember.
Remember, mine is dated 1907. Here are images, and you can barely see the autograph which is troublesome but I looked at it with a magnifying glass.
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A couple more for you Clive. Best wishes,
Morrie.
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...and some color.
Morrie