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Hi
Martha Came to Llandudno after her husband's death.
She had lived in Leamington, her husband John Edward Stanley was proprietor or the Crown Hotel in Leamington. (She was his third wife!)
JES died in 1894
Martha died in 1900 she was at Albany House, Llandudno which seems to be a Hotel.
Can anyone place her there maybe as the proprietor of the hotel?
This is definitely the correct person, her brother did the administration
Thanks Bob
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Hi Bob
I looked for your Martha on an 1895 and 1899 Trade Directories for Llandudno. Unfortunately Albany House was not listed under apartments or hotels. That does not mean it idn't exist - only that the ownership opted not to pay to be included in the Directory - perhaps they were successful enough or it was a new hotel opened by 1901. Have you thought about contacting the Llandudno Historical Society? They might have more information about the hotel.
Heather
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Hi Stonechat
I don't know anything about the Albany Hotel but picked up your posting when searching for the Stanleys of Leamington.
I am a descendent of John Edward Stanley who ran the Crown Hotel in Leamington so perhaps this means we are related?
The family did not only run the Crown but also owned a farm house near Leamington. John and various other relatives are buried in nearby Radford Semele and I have his funeral ring.
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Hello Stonechat,
I have lived in Llandudno in the past and though Albany House rings a bell, I cannot place where in the town I remember it from.
I would suggest a post on The Three Towns Forum, Llandudno being one of these towns. http://threetownsforum.co.uk/
There is a Matilda Stanley in Llandudno in the 1901 census. She is shown as born Great Bridge, Warwickshire, aged 35 and at 7 Bryn Gwynt Terrace. The household is headed by William Arch.
Jo
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Hi Jacqui0704
Yes we may be related by marriage
There is a picture of Martha Pierce Stanley on my website at this address
http://www.cotswan.com/marthapiercedouglas.htm
Incidentally she was known as Pattie
I have John Edward Stanley as apparently married three times
Jo
I found Albany House it is at
5 Craig Y Don Parade, Llandudno
You can see it on Google maps
I just wonder what Martha was doing there
As John Edward Stanley went bankrupt in 1892 and died in 1894, I doubt Martha had a lot of money.
As I said Martha died in 1900, aged only 42.
Her brother James Douglas must have gone up from Torquay to carry out the administration of her estate. He was about 63 by then.
Thanks for these two contributions
Bob
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I found this thread whilst looking at an address from which my grandmother was baptised. Albany House in Llandudno, I myself was born and bred in Llandudno but the Albany House in my records was in Lloyd Street. There are some fairly big houses in Lloyd St and perhaps my ancestors were renting rooms as they tended to move around a lot during this time. Hope this helps
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oops forgot to mention the baptism was on Dec 9th 1900.
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Thanks
There is a newspaper article that I may eventually see next time I take out a sub on Newspaper Archives
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This is the only reference I can find.
Advertisements & Notices .
Liverpool Mercury etc (Liverpool, England), Friday, June 23, 1899.
Hairdressers wanted.
A young man to live in, state age and wages expected.
Brown. Albany House, Llandudno.
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THanks
when I next take out a short term sub to Newspaper archives will check out that article and also report here.
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Hello Stonechat,
I have lived in Llandudno in the past and though Albany House rings a bell, I cannot place where in the town I remember it from.
I would suggest a post on The Three Towns Forum, Llandudno being one of these towns. http://threetownsforum.co.uk/
There is a Matilda Stanley in Llandudno in the 1901 census. She is shown as born Great Bridge, Warwickshire, aged 35 and at 7 Bryn Gwynt Terrace. The household is headed by William Arch.
Jo
Hi Stonechat
I was wondering if you ever found if the Matilda Stanley found by Jo was your Martha? I am tracing the Arch family and have been trying to find out if she was related to them or just visiting. In the 1891 census they had been living in Tipton so she may have been a neighbour.
Kirsty
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No Martha Pierce Douglas was born 31st July 1858, in Egham and Baptised 28th Sept 1858 also Egham
She died 12th jul 1900, so was only aged 41 at death.
Her late husband was 12 years older (she was his third wife)
Probate was by James Douglas her oldest surving sibling, who was living in Torquay, and aged 63.
So Matilda is not Martha.
Also Leamington Spa Courier 21st July 1900
Deaths ...
STANLEY- On the 12th July, at Llandudno, Martha Pierce, widow of John Edward Stanley, of the Crown Hotel, Leamington, and King's Head, Wellesbourne, aged 41.