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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: GSH on Thursday 20 March 08 23:01 GMT (UK)
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Hi; Looking for death of Albert Hodder, printer's compositor. Died between 1895 -1909 believed near Bradford. He was born 1852, Chard, Somerset. Married to Elizabeth Lucretia Lucas, 1872, Hereford. They had six children: Albert Llewellyn, Clara, George,Walter,Lilian,Mabel and Charles.
Accidental death reported in (unknown) newspaper "due to falling from rocking chair after drinking beer." (News clipping contains neither date nor name of newspaper. Poor GGrandpa...what a way to go!)
Would appreciate any help re: dates and sources of newspaper archives...thank you,
Geoff
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Hello Geoff
There's this one, but a bit outside your time frame:
Albert Hodder death registered Q4. 1912 Bradford Vol 9b Pg. 178 Age 61
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This looks like him on Free BMD
December quarter 1912
Albert Hodder 61 yrs Bradford Vol 9b pg 178
You could try:
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/index.php
or
http://www.bradford.gov.uk/information_and_communication/library_and_information_services/libraries_local_studies.htm
Perhaps they could help with the information now you have it narrowed down to a manageable timespan.
best wishes
heywood
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No Alberts of the right age anywhere on freebmd within your timescale
Possible newspapers -
Bradford Telegraph and Argus
Yorkshire Post
and a good local source -
Bradford City library
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1901 Elizabeth Lucretia was a boarder in Aston Warwickshire with a few of her children -she is described as married but no husband present
Death Elizabeth Lucretia Hodder
Sept qtr 1909
age 59
Aston
6d 140
so it looks like Alert outlived her and moved to nother area
Suz
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HI
Found this man in the 1901 census for Spotland Nearer Side, Rochdale, Lancashire
Living as Married bn Chard in 1852*
Albert H*dd** Occ Printer Compositor
So if it's him then maybe you need to be looking at a later start time frame for a death look up.
Wendy
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Thank you Mum44, Heywood, Dave, Suz and Wendy. The timeframe of Albert's death has now narrowed to 1901-1912 which should make newspaper searches a bit easier (if I can figure out how to do that online!) Thanks also for the newspaper sources and the super-quick turnaround. If I make any more progress I'll post again.
Happy Easter...
Geoff
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Hi.
I'm a brand new member.
Albert Hodder is my direct ancestor. I'd love to trade information.
Nick Hodder
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Hi Nick...good to hear from you. Welcome to RootsChat. I think most of my (our?) Albert's background is already posted in this string. Does your family background fit in with mine? His parents were George Hodder and Mary Anne Singleton who married 28 February 1835, in Winsham, Chard, Somerset. They seem to have raised there own football team (10 kids!)
Let me know if our details are similar. It will be interesting to see how we are connected. We could be second cousins (or second cousins once removed depending on your relationship to Albert.)
I am always amazed at what the other members of RootsChat can come up with when I send in my questions. As you can see, the details are fantastic.
By the way, I'm in Canada...where in the world are you?
Looking forward to your reply,
Geoff Hodder
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Hi Geoff.
I have Mary Ann's surname as Wellman, where did you find the name Singleton?
I'm descended from George and Mary, then Albert Hodder and Elizabeth Lucretia Lucas, then George W Hodder and Mary J Russell, then William Thomas Hodder and Lilian Clark, then William Henry Hodder and Ivy Jean Andrews, then Graham Anthony Hodder (b.1956) and Kendal Joyce Whitehurst (b.1958).
I was born in 1985 (Nicholas Graham Hodder).
What's your link? my distant cousin. :-)
I'm in England.
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Hi Nick: Oops! might not be cousins after all. At first, I had George married to Mary Ann Wellman but the dates were not consistent with other family members. You might like to look at another thread on RootsChat "Chard Lookup - George Hodder" to see how things worked out.
My grandfather was Walter Henry Hodder (b.1879, Oswestry) married to Florence Caroline Kent 1900. My father was Walter William Hodder (b.1900) married to Gladys Ada.
As you can see, that makes me just a little bit older than you are.
I still have to confirm some of my events and dates but the overall fit seems very good.
By the way, this might help...my father was an only child. He had several uncles/aunts: Albert Llewellyn 1873; George W 1877; Lillian G 1884; Mabel L 1886; Charles Frederick 1888. Do these match?
I enjoy this part of family history...sorting out the blanks. Never can tell where it leads.
Lets keep trying.
Geoff.
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Hi Geoff,
Yes, all of those aunts and uncles match my records. I have some extra ones too, including Clara Hodder b.c.1875.
I'm descended from George, Walter's brother. I have George's mother and father as Elisabeth Lucretia Lucas and Albert Hodder.
It's curious that we have different records for Albert's father. According to my records, the marriage between George and Mary A. Wellman fits the dates perfectly; I found them on the UK census registers. One of us is wrong, hehe.
I'll add you to my tree from the Walter H line. I didn't know his wife's name so that's a new branch for my tree!
Do you have a private email address that I could talk to you on? We could exchange data files etc.
Many thanks,
Nick Hodder
P.S.
I've looked at the George Hodder Chard thread and it looks okay to me. I can't find Singleton on there, where did that come from?
According to my records, George and Mary A. Wellman had 12 children. The first was born when Mary was abut 21, and the last one when she was about 48. Those dates are not impossible.
My records...
1. George Hodder was born About 1812 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date. He married Mary A. Wellman. Mary A. was born About 1815 in Winsham, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
Children of George Hodder and Mary A. Wellman
i. 2. Frederick Hodder was born About 1863 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
ii. 3. Edwin Hodder was born About 1861 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
iii. 4. Sydney Hodder was born About 1859 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
iv. 5. Martha Hodder was born About 1857 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
v. 6. Amelia Hodder was born About 1851 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
vi. 7. James Hodder was born About 1847 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
vii. 8. Thomas Hodder was born About 1845 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
viii. 9. Mary A. Hodder was born About 1842 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
ix. 10. James Hodder was born About 1840 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
x. 11. George Hodder was born About 1839 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
xi. 12. Hannah Hodder was born About 1836 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
xii. 13. Albert Hodder was born About 1852 in Chard, Somerset and died on an unknown date.
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Hi Geoff
Just to muddy the waters, I too am looking for the death of an Albert Hodder - not the same person however. I believe 'my' Hodder to be Albert Thomas Evans Hodder born Chard c.1841 and died probably in Derbyshire after 1891. He was a cab driver then coachman. Also married to an Elizabeth. Children were Edward, Louisa, Albert, Frank, Lizzie, Emma and Arthur. (My grandson is descended from Edward. I shall now go and look at the Chard look-up that you mentioned.
Regards
Ann
Perth West Australia
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hi, albert hodder married elizabeth dutton and he was working as a coach driver at ilam hall in staffordshire.his son edward married hannah rebecca warren and they became the parents of my grandmother ida rebecca hodder ,who was my grandmother.she married into the carter family.do you think these are your hodders and maybe i could fill in some gaps this is my first message on roots so i hope ive done it right
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Dear Katiegirl - that is absolutely brilliant!! Yep, same family. My grandson is descended from Wilfred, brother to your Ida. If you'd like to share info, my email address is * (and, Moderator, have I done the right thing giving my email address?) Regards, Ann
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Hi
If you can get access to the 1911 cenuses it may have the Albert Hodder who died 1912 Bradford with his history like his occupation
Blackburns MI's in Bradford library but charge for service also newspaper look ups
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Hi Katiegirl - I've sent you a personal message. Thanks Dobfarm - I don't have access to 1911 census but have a friend I can ask. Regards, Ann
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hi ann nice to hear from you, will e.mail u tomoro if that ok got stuff i can let you have.x