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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: Martin Briscoe on Wednesday 19 March 08 18:55 GMT (UK)
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I wonder if anyone has a plan of Tomnahurich Cemetery?
I have been photographing the war graves there for The War Grave Photographic Project (http://www.twgpp.org/).
I have a few left that I have not found yet, I have identified many of the different sections of the cemetery but there are a few that I have not found. Usually if I can find the right section then I have a good chance of finding the grave. I would like to find as many as possible before going to the Cemetery office for the last ones.
The Library / Genealogy Section in Inverness do not have a plan.
By the way, there is one interesting memorial there. It has about 24 names from the Cameron Highlands between 1886 to 1948. They all seem to be buried by the memorial, I presume they died at the barracks and perhaps had no family or were from outside the area.
Martin Briscoe
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Just having another try to see if anyone has a plan, I am down to about twenty that I have not found and wondering about having another go at finding them. I don't want to have to go and ask at the office until I am down to a very small number.
Martin Briscoe
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I have around 200 random stones from Tomnahurich. Who are you missing, you never know I might have them. I might even remember "roughly" where they were and give you dodgy directions :)
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I have around 200 random stones from Tomnahurich. Who are you missing, you never know I might have them. I might even remember "roughly" where they were and give you dodgy directions :)
I have done most of the war graves there and I have somewhere identifying some of the sections (though even then there are some graves I have not found in them!).
I think most of the remaining ones are on the East side, just thought that if someone has a plan then it would help a lot. I would like to get down to just a handful before going to the office because they have to look each one up and don't have any handouts showing the plan.
Armstrong Leading Aircraftman Edward Gladstone 619762 Royal Air Force 17th April 1944. Age 27. Son of Gladstone and Emily Armstrong; husband of Isabella Armstrong of Inverness. Sec.20.Class3.Grave18.
Cameron Lieutenant James 136493 Black Watch (Royal Highlanders). Army 16th March 1941. Sec.L.3.Grave115-116.
Cameron Craftsman Roderick Mckay 7585153 Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. Army 19th November 1945. Age 38. Son of George and Isabella Cameron of Aldourie; husband of Jessie Nina Campbell Bell Cameron of Bishopmill Morayshire. Sec.5.Class3.Grave4.
Chisholm Sapper A 239087 Royal Engineers. Army 1st May 1919. Age 38. NewJ.3.26.
Couper Commander Charles Gordon Royal Navy Royal Navy 19th February 1945. Age 42. Sec.A.Class2.Grave59.
Elrick Private Allan 2928914 1st Bn. Gordon Highlanders. Army 31st May 1947. Age 24. Son of Peter S. Elrick and Margaret Elrick of Dalcross. Sec.18.Class3.Grave73.
Fowke Lieutenant Wilmot Stewart Hanbury 92416 234 Army Field Coy. Royal Engineers. Army 18th February 1941. Age 25. Son of Wilmot Hanbury Fowke and Jean Rose Curwen Fowke of Inshes. B.Sc. (Glasgow) Civil Engineer. Sec.H.1.Class1.Grave65A-66A.
Grant Leading Aircraftwoman Mairi 473130 Women's Aux. Air Force. Royal Air Force 11th November 1947. Age 25. Daughter of Donald and Isabella Grant of Inverness. Sec.H.15.Class1.Grave7-8.
Horn Serjeant Alfred James 2818446 Army Catering Corps. Army 23rd December 1945. Sec.19.Class3.Grave35.
Inkster Aircraftwoman 2nd Class Christine 2118405 Women's Aux. Air Force. Royal Air Force 12th August 1944. Age 32. Daughter of Peter M. Inkster and Mary Inkster of Inverness. Sec.D.Class4.Grave10.
Leah Flight Lieutenant (Pilot) Philip Whittenham 47542 268 Sqdn. Royal Air Force 24th August 1944. Age 25. Son of Harry and Isabel May Leah of Inverness. Sec.H.15.Class1.Grave33.
Macann Gunner Harold H. 1450046 317 Bty. 165 H.A.A. Regt. Royal Artillery. Army 17th August 1942. Age 24. Son of Harold H. Macann and Sarah Macann of Glasgow; husband of Anna Macann of Glasgow. Sec.H.10.Grave580.
Mackay Private P 71077 27th Battalion Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment) Army 24th May 1918 E 2 512
Maclennan Serjeant Donald 350715 4th Bn. Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Army Died of sickness 16th January 1917. Age 43. Son of Mr. and Mrs. MacLennan of Inch-on-cher Bunloit Glen Urquhart Inverness-shire; husband of J. Maclennan of 1 North Church Place Inverness. H6.4.2765.
Murdoch Sergeant (Obs.) Ian 580576 Royal Air Force 8th April 1940. Age 22. Mentioned in Despatches. Son of Edward T.N. Murdoch and Christina F. Murdoch of Inverness. Sec.H.1.Class1.Grave97.
Reid Driver William Hay 2338513 3rd Div. Sigs. Royal Corps of Signals. Army 3rd October 1940. Age 37. Son of William and Alexanderina Reid; husband of Margaret Ann Reid of Inverness. Sec.21.Class3.Grave72.
Sinclair Able Seaman Donald Clyde Z/6220 H.M.S. "Suva.". Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve 16th January 1919. Age 29. Son of St. Clair and Catherine Gordon Sinclair; husband of Margaret A. Sinclair of 2 Deveron St. Inverness. Born at Inverness. H6.4.58.
Stewart Private Robert 14686441 Pioneer Corps. Army 17th May 1944. Age 43. Son of Mr. and Mrs. W. Stewart; husband of H. Stewart of Inverness. Sec.21.Class3.Grave11.
Whyte Private Peter Graham 2931761 4th Bn. Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders. Army 6th September 1947. Age 29. Son of George and Margaret Whyte of Inverness; husband of Joan Margaret Whyte of Inverness. Sec.18.Class3.Grave46.
The other one that I have been trying to get someone with local contacts to help with, is one in the private burial ground at Dochfour.
Baillie Brigadier The Hon. George Evan Michael Royal Artillery and Commands and Staff General Staff. Army 6th June 1941. Age 46. M C T D. Son of Colonel James E. B. Baillie M.V.O. and Baroness Burton of Dochfour; husband of Lady Maud L. E. Baillie of Ballindarroch.
Martin Briscoe
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I had a similar problem locating my relatives.John Watt and his brother Duncan Grant Watt.Both died in the Great War,and according to the CWGC were buried at Tomnahurich,giving plot/grave numbers,along with what turns out to be a "generic" picture of military gravestones.This fooled me and I spent hours searching for these.They are in fact buried in a family grave at the top of the hill,not far from the Cameron Highlanders memorial.I found the "office" to be quite helpful.Unfortunately no longer have the 'phone number.
Good luck!
Nigel Hirst
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I had a similar problem locating my relatives.John Watt and his brother Duncan Grant Watt.Both died in the Great War,and according to the CWGC were buried at Tomnahurich,giving plot/grave numbers,along with what turns out to be a "generic" picture of military gravestones.This fooled me and I spent hours searching for these.They are in fact buried in a family grave at the top of the hill,not far from the Cameron Highlanders memorial.I found the "office" to be quite helpful.Unfortunately no longer have the 'phone number.
Good luck!
Nigel Hirst
There are quite a few up at the top and many are not very clear. I think one of the VCs is up there too.
Martin Briscoe
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I was given the information for a relative's grave but unfortunately the office did not have any maps/plans to sell/give out. I think this may be due to the Data Protection Act.
If you go to the cemetery, during your searches you will usually see stonemasons at work on headstones....they all have plans of the cemetery and can be helpful if they are not too busy! I was kindly directed to the lair.
Worth a try!
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I was given the information for a relative's grave but unfortunately the office did not have any maps/plans to sell/give out. I think this may be due to the Data Protection Act.
If you go to the cemetery, during your searches you will usually see stonemasons at work on headstones....they all have plans of the cemetery and can be helpful if they are not too busy! I was kindly directed to the lair.
Worth a try!
I will go there eventually but I want to get to just a handful before doing that.
Data Protection Act sounds an excuse, plenty of other cemeteries make the index available and supply plans. Some even put a basic layout plan on the notice board.
Go to Wrexham and there are also booklets available to collect off the notice board.
By the way, I have a large scale map but it is a basic map with no labels for the various sections. Send me a message direct with EMail address if you want a copy.
Martin Briscoe
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Try Highland Council and their Transport, Environmental and Community Services Department and try to find the QSP Officer for Tomnahurich or the cemeteries inside the city of Inverness.
Gruemach
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I had a similar problem locating my relatives.John Watt and his brother Duncan Grant Watt.Both died in the Great War,and according to the CWGC were buried at Tomnahurich,giving plot/grave numbers,along with what turns out to be a "generic" picture of military gravestones.This fooled me and I spent hours searching for these.They are in fact buried in a family grave at the top of the hill,not far from the Cameron Highlanders memorial.I found the "office" to be quite helpful.Unfortunately no longer have the 'phone number.
Good luck!
Nigel Hirst
It sounds very much as though your John and Duncan Grant Watt are the same men as those of those names who are also in my family tree!
Please respond with a view to swopping information?
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Thanks for your prompt reply, Nigel.
My family graves are scattered all over Tomnahurich.
If you have a photo of the "grand headstone right at the top of the hill" I'd love to get a copy. Is there some way for me to get one?
Was the Mary married to your John, Mary GORDON?
Was the Alexander, buried at Rosskeen, married to Alice Connor?
Could you please send any details you have about the above two men?
And the details of your connection with the NSW and Cambewarra folk?
Jock.
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Thanks for your prompt reply, Nigel.
My family graves are scattered all over Tomnahurich.
If you have a photo of the "grand headstone right at the top of the hill" I'd love to get a copy. Is there some way for me to get one?
Was the Mary married to your John, Mary GORDON?
Was the Alexander, buried at Rosskeen, married to Alice Connor?
Could you please send any details you have about the above two men?
And the details of your connection with the NSW and Cambewarra folk?
Jock.
I have photographed most of the war graves in Tomnahurich so if your ones are war graves then I might have a picture. Less likely if it is just a family commemoration for someone buried elsewhere though I often take a picture if they catch my eye.
Give me the names and I will check otherwise I can take one next time up there if it is easy to find (if no one else nearer to Inverness can get one).
Martin Briscoe
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Thank you for your generous offer.
If possible please, the headstone at the top of the hill for James Watt, his wife Mary + children?
In jpg format?
Regards,
Jock Watt
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Thank you for your generous offer.
If possible please, the headstone at the top of the hill for James Watt, his wife Mary + children?
In jpg format?
Regards,
Jock Watt
Photos sent today!
Nigel
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Thanks VERY much.
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Hi guys,
I was hoping one of you who has photos of the gravestones might be able to help me with one for Brigadier-General D. A. (Duncan Alwyn) MacFarlane, D.S.O.
According to his funeral notice Col. Haig attended the funeral. He spent the majority of his service with the Kings Own Scottish Borderers 1888-1909 serving in Sierra Leone, Nile, Chitral Relief Force, Tirah campaign, South Africa (Vet River, Zand River & Zillikat's Nek).
He died 10 April 1941 and is buried in Tomnahurich Cemetery.
Thanks
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Do you know whether there is any intention to photograph the Polish war graves at Tomnahurich? I would have thought that at some future date someone would find these helpful?
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I have now found all the war graves at Tomnahurich and photographed them all - as well as all others in mainland Inverness-shire and the Small Isles - I have been promised pictures of two on the island in Glen Shiel later this year).
Martin Briscoe
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Hi Nigel, I am new to the site and came across your post about the graves of John and Duncan Watt at Tomnahurich Cemetary. I believe they are my GG uncles from information I gleened from my Great Aunt's who passed away several years ago. I had the pleasure of visiting the Family Grave in August 2009 while visiting Inverness. I would be interested in hearing how you are related to John, Duncan, James x 2 , Mary and Margaret? Obviously there was no marking on Margaret's entry what her last name was and from my recollection, my Great Aunt's mentioned that their father was from a family of 7-9 sibblings so there are obviously some other family missing from the Watt plot. Anyways, as I said I would be interested to hear more about your relationship with the Watt family... My Aunt (Lu Ann) was seaching the family tree several years ago and I have not had an opportunity to explore her progress as we live at opposite ends of the country. I've attached a copy of the gravestone as proof of our connection to the family tree which I believe you had obtained a copy of from another person.
Thanks in advance for any interest you have sharing information...
Regards,
James (Rob) Watt - Vancouver, BC Canada
Regrettably the phonto I have is too large for this post....
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Hi Jock, I am new to this site and came across your post with Nigel about being possibly related to the Watt's of Inverness. I have posted information to Nigel which you can read and I would be interested in learning more about whether you are related to James and Mary (Grant) Watt of Bridge St., in Inverness?
Regards,
James (Rob) Watt - Vancouver, BC Canada
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Hi Jock, I am new to this site and came across your post with Nigel about being possibly related to the Watt's of Inverness. I have posted information to Nigel which you can read and I would be interested in learning more about whether you are related to James and Mary (Grant) Watt of Bridge St., in Inverness?
Regards,
James (Rob) Watt - Vancouver, BC Canada
Hi Rob - did you get those details from your Dad?? I'd still love to know of them !!
Jock.
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I was hoping one of you who has photos of the gravestones might be able to help me with one for Brigadier-General D. A. (Duncan Alwyn) MacFarlane, D.S.O.
My Grandfather.
If you'd be so kind as to explain your interest in him, maybe we can help each other, though it's been 20 years or so since I las visited the cemetary, and then I wasn't even able to find the grave. I certainly would also be grateful for a photo.
CEMH
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I was hoping one of you who has photos of the gravestones might be able to help me with one for Brigadier-General D. A. (Duncan Alwyn) MacFarlane, D.S.O.
My Grandfather.
I certainly would also be grateful for a photo.
Found one:
http://scottishwargraves.phpbbweb.com/scottishwargraves-post-18814.html
CEMH
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Hi TearMac,
I have your Grandfather Brig.-Gen. Duncan Alwyn MacFarlane on my website at http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I8030&tree=CC and would be very interested in your descent from him as at this stage I only have a daughter Lavinia.
Thanks heaps also to CEMH for the War Graves site photo link.
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Hey Rob - Somehow (haha) it slipped my mind that your aunt is Luann!!!!!!!!! Have you added any info since your posting re Tomnahurich ?
Jock.
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Hi Ghost whisperer.... Do you have any Shaw Gravestones in your collection (from Tomnahurich) by any chance? Thanks Lynn.
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Yes one or two ;)
Shaw Alexander 1925
Shaw Alexander 1933
Shaw Alexander 1947
Shaw Alexander 1984
Shaw Alexander 1997
Shaw Alexandra C 1943
Shaw Alister F 1966
Shaw Amelia G 1943
Shaw Ann 1922
Shaw Ann 1951
Shaw Ann 1963
Shaw Ann S 1928
Shaw Anne 1943
Shaw Annie 1933
Shaw Annie 1969
Shaw Catherine 1918
Shaw Catherine 1972
Shaw Catherine 1985
Shaw Catherine 1987
Shaw Charles 1885
Shaw Charles A G 1908
Shaw Christina 1933
Shaw Christina 1933
Shaw David 1948
Shaw Donald 1899
Shaw Donald 1915
Shaw Donald 1949
Shaw Duncan 1910
Shaw Duncan 1923
Shaw Edward 1910
Shaw Edward F 1935
Shaw Effie H 1961
Shaw Elizabeth 1986
Shaw Elizabeth A M 1940
Shaw Flora 1885
Shaw Flora 1970
Shaw Frederick 1913
Shaw Gavin J 1970
Shaw Helen 1889
Shaw Helen 1914
Shaw Hugh 1943
Shaw Hugh M 1970
Shaw Isabella 1931
Shaw Isabella 1946
Shaw Isabella 1949
Shaw James C 1955
Shaw James E 1979
Shaw Janet 1965
Shaw Janet I 1975
Shaw Jean A 1947
Shaw Jeanie 1924
Shaw Jessie 1906
Shaw Jessie 1939
Shaw John 1920
Shaw John 1957
Shaw John 1964
Shaw John 1967
Shaw John 1979
Shaw John A 1928
Shaw John AM 1974
Shaw John D 1935
Shaw John M 1944
Shaw Katherine D G 1978
Shaw Kenneth 1950
Shaw Kenneth D 1985
Shaw Lachlan 1970
Shaw Lewis J 1986
Shaw Lilly 1957
Shaw Mairi 1954
Shaw Margaret 1900
Shaw Margaret 1918
Shaw Margaret 1933
Shaw Margaret 1945
Shaw Margaret 1970
Shaw Margaret A 1922
Shaw Margaret G 1966
Shaw Margaret M 1975
Shaw Margaret R 1926
Shaw Mary 1899
Shaw Mary 1961
Shaw Mary 1967
Shaw Mary R 1929
Shaw Michael R 1988
Shaw Murdo 1948
Shaw Neil 1951
Shaw Peter 1955
Shaw Peter B 1918
Shaw Robert 1912
Shaw Robert M 1990
Shaw Sarah 1887
Shaw Sween M 1967
Shaw Tavish 1929
Shaw William J 1947
Shaw William J 1953
Shaw William JJ 1996
Shaw William K 1916
Shaw Winnie 1952
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Wow.... Shall check my dates, know there should be an Ann/Annie (married name Fraser, maiden name Shaw), along with her son Alexander (known as Alister). Shall just have a check up on dates. Thanks
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Tavish Shaw is my relative. Also fair chance Margaret Shaw d. 1945 is too. Ann died 1963 & her son Alexander after that. Thanks for the reply. My father has wandered round the cemetery many a time trying to find the stones! Lynn.
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6152. Erected by Isabella MacKintosh in memory of her dear brother Tavish Shaw died 5th July 1929.
6151. In loving memory of my dear mother Ann Shaw who died 16th Dec 1963 widow of James Fraser, Blacksmith, Croachy.
If you pm me your email address I will send on photos.
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Will do. Thanks :)
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Ghostwhisperer has made my night! Shall try and find out Alexander's year of death, would imagine its either the 1984 or 1997 one. He was married to Ann Fraser if that is mentioned on any of those two stones. Thanks for doing those so quickly tonight, you must have a much better filing system than me!
Lynn.
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Is he Alexander Shaw or Alexander Fraser ?
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He is a Shaw too.
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Shaw Alexander 1925 78 Boyd Elizabeth
Shaw Alexander 1933 61 Fraser Elizabeth
Shaw Alexander 1947 1888 Tucker Elsie
Shaw Alexander 1984 * *
Shaw Alexander 1997 1912 *
Shaw Alexandra C 1943 * *
Shaw Alister F 1966 67 Nicolson Elizabeth
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Shall search and get back to you tomorrow. Thanks.
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Ah Alexander (Alister) is a 1987 death Ghostwhisperer, so perhaps not one of the stones you have.
Lynn