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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: sjdavid on Tuesday 18 March 08 22:29 GMT (UK)
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After some searching I have managed to find the marriage of John Pavey to Jane Davis on the 10th Nov 1823 in the parish of St. Peter's Barnstaple, unfortunately he was a tojourney and I have nothing to go on in my attempts to find john's baptism.
I would appreciate any help and advise as I try to locate John.
regards
steve
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tojourney
What does this mean ???
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Do you know anything about Jane ? Where was she born and when? maybe that would help find them on a census and thence where and when John was born?
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Using the rule of thumb of going back 20 years from the marriage date there are 5 possible John Pavey's on the IGI but none of them near the Barnstable area.
Did they have any children ??? if so what are their names, ??? there is sometimes a clue there.
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According to the 1851 cencus John was b Somerset!!!!!
Jane
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Jane Pavey (nee Davis) can be found on the 1841 census for the parish of Barnstaple, with her are three of her children Elizabeth b. 31st May 1824, Mary b. 8th July 1829 & John c1840 all baptised in the parish of St. Peter's Barnstaple.
John does not appear on the census record and I have no clues as to where he was born.
Steve
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There is just one on the IGI born Somerset.
John Pavey ch. 2.2.1806 Wayford Somerset.
Father John Mother Elizabeth.
Do you have John on any census's ??? if not he may be deceased :-\
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Sorry ..My earlier post is the wrong John..
Here is the 1851 for Jane..
HO107/1892/329/45
Summerland Place
Elizabeth Mason 74 head Widow b Tawstock
Mary Davis 37 Un niece b West Dean Servant
Jane Pavey 40 Mar servant b " " Occasional Servant
Jane
Like Patrish asked earlier what do yo mean by "tojourney"
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what do yo mean by "tojourney
Yes Steve please explain this before we go any further .
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Sorry for any confusion, I have miss read the marriage records it appears to say 'sojourner'. I have been told that this indicates 'not of this parish'.
As for not finding John on any census records, I am currently looking at the burial records for St. Peter's Barnstaple and as yet I have not been able to find anything.
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So we now know that although they married in Devon, John was not from there.
They had at least 3 children, Elizabeth, Mary and John
These names are consistant with the John Pavy I found b Wayford, Somerset 1806 although I do realise that these are very common names.
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When Elizabeth Pavey is married 1844 her father John Pavey is shown as dead, and as Jane is shown as a widow in 1841, so John died before then.
From what I have been able to trace, John Pavey was married to Jane Davis, 1823 and had Elizabeth 1824, Mary 1825, Samuel 1831 William henry 1834 and John circa 1838. There is another son of Jane , Charles 1843 but John cannot be his father.
I too have no clue as to where John is borm
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Remember that sojourner does not necessarily mean out of county, it just means of a different parish to the one in which the marriage took place. There were quite a number of PAVEYs from the Stockland, Membury, Chardstock, Yarcombe and Axminster area of Devon.
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I have been looking more at Jane Pavey. she is shown in 1861 census as born 1797 in Westdown, but 1841 census shows born circa 1805.
Where was she and family in 1851? Only one I can find who looks like it is Jane Pavey 40, ie born cira 1811, but born Westdown, and in same house hold as Mary Davis unmarried born circa 1836 and who is niece to head of household Elizabeth Mason, widow, born circa 1723 Tawstock.
Children John and Charles, although shown born Bideford, are probably in Green Lane Barnstaple in 1851 census, shown as lodgers but next door to elder sister Elizabeth and husband Richard Shaddick. But where are Mary (possibly dead?), Samuel and William