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Title: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Sisterjane on Tuesday 18 March 08 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hi all

Im completley out of my depth on this one but I hope with your help I can find something!

A lot of you will have heard of my long suffering partner Joe..well he has been asking me for years if I could do a bit of his family tree for him and ive kept telling him how hard Irish family history is to trace especially when the info is as scant as what he has.....so this is the longest shot ive ever come across... ;D

He has....wait for it..

Janette(or Janet) Crawford b Belfast(Married a Patrick Burns 1939 in Birmingham/Warwickshire)
Her Mother Leticia Crawford who lived most her life in Belfast but could have been born Dumbarton/Scotland..and Leticias father was a minister!!!!Thats it..no nothing else..no DOBs zilcho!!!!

I will thank you all now just for reading this let alone spending time on it
 ;D ;D
Thanks

Jane

Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 18 March 08 17:59 GMT (UK)
Could be worse actually- my grandfather's family came from somewhere in Co. Londonderry where there were green hills and a river but his sister couldn't remember the name of the place!
Have you tried looking for a birth for Letitia Crawford in Dumbarton area in Scotland? and could she have been in Scotland for  1891 and 1901 census?
Letitia's father the minister- any idea what religion? and would he have been in Scotland or Ireland? Also, was Letitia's maiden name Crawford or was that her married surname?
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 20 March 08 23:51 GMT (UK)
Hi..Ive managed to find another scrap or two to add to this info

Janet P Crawford was born 1917 in Belfast

Father John Crawford-Mother Leticia ? both beleived to be born in Dunbartonshire/Scotland

Not much more but hey yer never know!!
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Sisterjane on Thursday 20 March 08 23:55 GMT (UK)
Forgot to add that John and Leticia were protestants...

Jane
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 21 March 08 11:47 GMT (UK)
Would John and Leticia have been married in Scotland? Think Scotland's People is the place to start searching for the family. If you can get the marriage of John and Leticia you will get an idea of their ages, parent's names, etc. and then someone could check Scottish census records (on Ancestry).
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Christopher on Friday 21 March 08 12:03 GMT (UK)
Forgot to add that John and Leticia were protestants...

Jane

Probably Presbyterian 8)
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 21 March 08 12:31 GMT (UK)
Forgot to add that John and Leticia were protestants...

Jane

Probably Presbyterian 8)
Or Church of Ireland, Methodist, Congregationalist...
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Christopher on Friday 21 March 08 12:41 GMT (UK)
Church of Ireland .... in Scotland ???
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 21 March 08 13:58 GMT (UK)
In Ireland Christopher not Scotland.
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Christopher on Friday 21 March 08 14:13 GMT (UK)
1966 Belfast and Northern Ireland Directory

Rev Samuel J. Crawford
Cregagh Road Methodist Church
Residence: 33, Ardenlee Avenue, Belfast
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 21 March 08 14:48 GMT (UK)
It was Leticia's father that was supposed to be a minister:
Janette(or Janet) Crawford b Belfast(Married a Patrick Burns 1939 in Birmingham/Warwickshire)
Her Mother Leticia Crawford who lived most her life in Belfast but could have been born Dumbarton/Scotland..and Leticias father was a minister!!!!Thats it..no nothing else..no DOBs zilcho!!!!
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Christopher on Friday 21 March 08 15:14 GMT (UK)
1880 Directory of Belfast & Ulster on the Lennon / Wylie website

Rev. R. Crawford, Sinclair Seamen's Church, The Manse, Cliftonville, Belfast

1861 Directory of Belfast & Ulster on the Lennon / Wylie website

Rev. Andrew Crawford, the Manse, Ballynafeigh, Belfast
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Sisterjane on Friday 21 March 08 17:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Agahdowey and Christopher

Thanks for all this info..Joe is going to talk to his rellies in Belfast over the weekend and armed now with a bit more info they may remember a bit more!!!

Thanks again

Jane
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 21 March 08 18:01 GMT (UK)
Christopher it might help to read through this thread:
Father John Crawford-Mother Leticia ? both beleived to be born in Dunbartonshire/Scotland
Crawford was Leticia's married name so her father the minister probably had a different srname.
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 22 March 08 03:14 GMT (UK)
Christopher it might help to read through this thread:
Father John Crawford-Mother Leticia ? both beleived to be born in Dunbartonshire/Scotland
Crawford was Leticia's married name so her father the minister probably had a different srname.

What now ??? His surname could be anything :( If his successor was the Crawford who married Leticia we're flying otherwise we are stuck.
Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: Sisterjane on Saturday 22 March 08 10:39 GMT (UK)
Yes Im sorry Christopher I made that about as clear as mud didnt I ;D ;D

All the info im getting is coming in dribs and drabs which I know is difficult

We dont know Leticias Surname before she married John Crawford nor have we any dates of birth or deaths for either.

Joe has a scrap of paper with 2 addresses on one says

L C
66 Premier Drive
Belfast

It could have been Leticias address but there again the surname Canning is a big part of the family so the C could be one of them.
Leticia died in Belfast..there again no dates but Joe remembers her as a small boy growing up in the 1960s but when his family came to England(1973) he cant remember if she was still alive

The other address is
53 Harding St
Belfast

Although not sure this is possibly the last known address of Thomas and Maria Burns(Their son Patrick married Janet Crawford/dau of John and Letecia in 1939 in Birmingham/England)

Thanks very much for your time Christopher

Jane



Title: Re: Crawford birth in Belfast...please
Post by: livingstonep1 on Thursday 15 August 13 20:55 BST (UK)
I know the last post was some time ago, but here goes.

I've recently uncovered my Crawford family and have a John Crawford, from 1911 Census:
John Crawford. Baptist. 21yrs. Upholster. Single. Born in County Down.

His parents (my Great Grandparents) were:-
William Crawford. Head. Baptist. 62yrs. Commercial Trader Tea. Married. Born in County Down.
Jane Crawford. Wife. Baptist. 62yrs. Married 43yrs (10 children, 7 alive). Born in County Down.

One of their children was born in Glasgow, Scotland - which suggests Scottish roots.

Maybe there is a connection?

Regards; Phil Livingstone