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Ancestors in hiding ???
I'm looking for info on my elusive Great Grandparents Walter William & Elizabeth BUSST.
I can find some birth & death references but nothing in the middle from census etc.
Walter was born 1857 in Wolverhampton & died 1934 in Salford Gt Manchester (can find B & D on BDM index)
Elizabeth was born Elizabeth WILLIAMS in Wales (can only find D in BDM index) Williams, born in Wales :(
There were three children John JACKSON, Walter BUSST & Aileen BUSST (my Grandmother).
Questions I need to find answers for are:
1) Why no census records?
2) Why no marriage record?
3) Why has John got a diffrent surname to the other children?
4) Also after her death my grandfather said my grandmother (Aileen Busst) grew up in a children's home, how do I research this?
Any assistance or pointers as to where to look next would be greatly appreciated. Also neither of them are listed on the Manchester Council online burial/cremation records but the Manchester link is confirmed on my grandmothers birth certificate. Unfortunately my grandmother would not talk about her family & my grandfather mostly kept to this after her death.
Thanks
Andy
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Hi
Hate to sound stupid here, but if your G Grandfather had surname Williams, where does the BUSST come into it, if your G Grandmother was born Elizabeth Williams in Wales ???
Also can you give us John, Walter & Aileen's DOBs this may help.
Joan
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I may not have put it clearly so will try again....
Walter William Busst (1857-1934) and Elizabeth Williams (1873/74-1940)
They are my great Grandparents (listed as Walter William Busst & Elizabeth Busst on my grandmothers birth certificate)
There were 3 children
John Jackson (born 1909)
Walter Busst (born between 1910 & 1914))
Aileen Josephine Busst (born 1915)
Aileen Josephine was my Grandmother
Hope this helps
Andy
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birth of Walter junior:
Q/E Sep 1912 Manchester 8d 428
Busst Walter W
Mother's maiden name Williams
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I think this is the probably the Busst family in 1861:
Wolverhampton Street, Bilston
Joseph Prust, Head 41 Contractor Birmingham
Elizabeth Prust wife 37 Bilston
James Prust 15 son Engine Fitter do
Jane Prust 6 daur scholar do
Walter Prust 4 son scholar do
Samuel Smith 25 boarder engine driver do
RG9/ 2008 Folio 31 Page 6
This could be Jane:
Births Jun 1855: Busst, jane maria Wolverhampton 6b 484
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Here are Elizabeth and Jane Maria Busst in 1871 in Great Bridge, Tipton:
11 Limerick Passage
Elizabeth Busst 46 W Dressmaker Bilston
Jane Maria Busst 16 unm
John Kidley 27 boarder unm copper furnaceman Stratford on Avon
Richard Nicholas 26 boarder saddler Church Stainton
RG10/3002 Folio 57 Page 3
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Looks like Walter's sister Jane married a Frederick Harry Wadelin in Warrington in 1876 and emigrated to the US on the Circassia 24/11/1885 (from Glasgow). http://www.castlegarden.org/
Elizabeth Busst may also have married a Wadelin - John Wadelin - in Wolverhampton in 1873.
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In 1871 "Walter W Buss " aged 14 from Bilston is a servant in the household of William H Poulton in Edgbaston RG10/3082 folio 75 page 73
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Sister Jane Wadelin is in Warrington in 1881:
52 Pierpoint St
Frederick H. Wadelin 25 Iron Worker ??? Stourbridge
Jane M. Wadelin 25 Bilston
Blanche Wadelin 2 Warrington
RG11/3792 folio 86 page 8
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Thanks so much for that.
Wrongly transcribed surnames (?), no wonder I couldn't find them.
Now all I need to find out is why two of the three children had the surname BUSST and the surname of the first born was JACKSON. I don't think he changed his name as my grandfather said his name was always Jackson.
Thanks again
Andy
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Ancestors in hiding ???
I'm looking for info on my elusive Great Grandparents Walter William & Elizabeth BUSST.
I can find some birth & death references but nothing in the middle from census etc.
Walter was born 1857 in Wolverhampton & died 1934 in Salford Gt Manchester (can find B & D on BDM index)
Elizabeth was born Elizabeth WILLIAMS in Wales (can only find D in BDM index) Williams, born in Wales :(
There were three children John JACKSON, Walter BUSST & Aileen BUSST (my Grandmother).
Questions I need to find answers for are:
1) Why no census records?
2) Why no marriage record?
3) Why has John got a diffrent surname to the other children?
4) Also after her death my grandfather said my grandmother (Aileen Busst) grew up in a children's home, how do I research this?
Any assistance or pointers as to where to look next would be greatly appreciated. Also neither of them are listed on the Manchester Council online burial/cremation records but the Manchester link is confirmed on my grandmothers birth certificate. Unfortunately my grandmother would not talk about her family & my grandfather mostly kept to this after her death.
Thanks
Andy
hello andy walter busst was my father was your mother monica?
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Ancestors in hiding ???
I'm looking for info on my elusive Great Grandparents Walter William & Elizabeth BUSST.
I can find some birth & death references but nothing in the middle from census etc.
Walter was born 1857 in Wolverhampton & died 1934 in Salford Gt Manchester (can find B & D on BDM index)
Elizabeth was born Elizabeth WILLIAMS in Wales (can only find D in BDM index) Williams, born in Wales :(
There were three children John JACKSON, Walter BUSST & Aileen BUSST (my Grandmother).
Questions I need to find answers for are:
1) Why no census records?
2) Why no marriage record?
3) Why has John got a diffrent surname to the other children?
4) Also after her death my grandfather said my grandmother (Aileen Busst) grew up in a children's home, how do I research this?
Any assistance or pointers as to where to look next would be greatly appreciated. Also neither of them are listed on the Manchester Council online burial/cremation records but the Manchester link is confirmed on my grandmothers birth certificate. Unfortunately my grandmother would not talk about her family & my grandfather mostly kept to this after her death.
Thanks
Andy
hello andy walter busst was my father was your mother monica?
sorry just read it again are you either arleen or junes son if auntie aileen is your grand mother?