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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: scurlockgirl on Saturday 15 March 08 11:15 GMT (UK)
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Looking to make contact with anyone looking for the surname BRAZIER or BRASIER in this area of Kent. My ancestor Harriet BRAZIER married George DURLING in Swanscombe. She was born in the 1790s in Swanscombe. Sadly the parish records are water-damaged so I cannot find her baptism. A Richard and Sarah BRAZIER are baptising children in the timeframe and a William and Sarah. Richard and William might well turn out to be brothers but I would like to confirm which is my Harriet's father. I wonder if there are any others with BRAZIER connections out there?
Regards
Scurlockgirl
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Just a thought but have you tried the Stone parish registers for Harriet Brazier? Many people seemed to flit between Swanscombe and Stone for the usual events.
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Hi there
Yes, thanks for your suggestion - I have tried Stone, Wilmington, Southfleet, Ash etc and I am still gradually moving outwards around the parishes. I feel sure my Harriet is on a damaged part of the register at Swanscombe. There are certainly illegible people there and at least one BRAZIER. What I really need are the BTs provided this timeframe is available of course.
All the best
Scurlockgirl
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If it wasn't at Stone, it was probably Swanscombe. I've got an idea that Greenhithe (before it became a parish) was officially in Swanscombe but that Stone church was closer!
The BTs are at the Centre for Kentish Studies but if the Mormons' Family History Catalogue is to be believed there is a gap in the baptisms between 1783 and 1805.
All in all it doesn't look good.
I take it you've tried the Colyer-Fergusson transcript?
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No can you tell me about the Colyer-Fergusson transcript? A contact has looked at transcripts she has but I don't know if this is the same one.
Thanks
Scurlockgirl
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This is the catalogue entry for the Society of Genealogists' library:
Author: Colyer-Fergusson, Thomas Colyer (trans.)
Title Statement: SWANSCOMBE : CMB 1559-1812 [Manuscript.]
Published: 1944
Description: Index (Pink cloth)
Subject: KENT - REGISTERS
Subject: Swanscombe, Kent
General Note: Copied from a transcript by W E Parker & indexed by O G Knapp
General Note: Transcript of original register.
Call Number: KE/R 39
Location: Kent shelves
Thomas Colyer-Fergusson of Ightam Mote was a noted amateur archeologist and genealogist who transcribed dozens of Kent parish registers.
I understand that there is also a transcript in the Riverside series but I don't know anything about that. I'm afraid I've no idea what your friend has access to.
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Thanks for letting me know. I fear that if these are transcripts of the original registers I won't find my Harriet because the original registers are so damaged by damp. Oh well, it looks like it's BTs or nothing. Must get myself down to Kent at some point.
Cheers
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Hi
This is the first time for ages that I've been onto Rootschat - but I came across the thread with a Google search!
I'm scurlockgirl's contact who has been looking at Swanscombe fiche.
I've got two sets - both Kent FHS published. The 1559-1812 set are Colyer-Fergusson transcriptions, the second set is just 1750-1862 by Rob Cottrell; these are indexed by surname so it was easy to pick out all the BRAZIER/BRASIER entries.
I was looking at Google because you'd asked/commented about how the registers got so damaged. According to Wickipedia:
"The flint-built parish church of St Peter and Saint Paul, partially Saxon, had a spire on its tower until 1902, when the church was struck by lightning causing extensive damage."
I guess they used lots of water to put out the fire caused by the lightening. :( :'(
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Hi there BrendaP
Amazing the Google search brought up my correspondence on this topic at Rootschat. Hopefully you will have received my direct email to you. I sent a similar thread to Rootschat and the KFHS at the same time.
Take care
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I have done extensive research into the Brasier/Braziers of the parish of Swanscombe. Mr earliest ancestor is Thomas Brasier who married Sarah Hills on 30 Nov 1721 in Swanscombe Parish Church.
Some of my other lines are the Chappel and Legates of neighbouring Dartford back to the late 1600s.
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Hi Big Ted
I am still trying to trace the parents of my Harriet BRAZIER who married George DURLING. There is a BRAZIER child born to William and Sarah BRAZIER in 1785 in Swanscombe. The register is so badly damaged at this point, but I believe that the child was a daughter. This might be might Harriet. Have you managed to look at the BTs for this timeframe?
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Hi
Have you taken a look at these online registers?
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search&PathList=%2FEcclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes%2FP362_SWANSCOMBE_1559_1978%2F%0A&SearchWords=&DateList
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The previous weblink in the post above has nothing to do with parish registers.
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The previous weblink in the post above has nothing to do with parish registers.
Thats what happens when you allow daughter on your laptop, open multiple windows and end up copying the wrong link :)
Have now changed to the correct link
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I have a daughter like that Big Ted! I have looked through the online registers from Cityark many times. What I need are the BTs to check for Harriet. I have been told there are gaps though, so it doesn't bode well for my Harriet BRAZIER. Harriet married George DURLING and died aged 91. She outlived many of her children, although her daughter Sarah DURLING, who was my ancestor, died also aged 91!
Here is the page for what I think is my Harriet BRAZIER from the Swanscombe register:
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P362_SWANSCOMBE_1559_1978/01_Incumbent_Service_Register_1559_1978/P362_01_02.html/0029.jpg
or
http://tinyurl.com/36roh2
If you look at 8th August 1785 I think that might be Harriet BRAZIER
Regards
Scurlockgirl