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Title: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:07 GMT (UK)
Hello

I wonder could anyone help me put a border around photographs, certificates, censuses.  I can only get a border around an item which I have resized, but the whole width of the page which looks silly.

Best wishes
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirley  :)

I think it might be best to ask this on the photo board. I'll ask a mod to move it for you  :)

It depends which graphics packages you're using but most have the facility to add borders.

Can you explain some more or give us an example, please?

Gadget
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:19 GMT (UK)
Shirley- do you mean putting a border around an item in a Word document or some other place?
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:26 GMT (UK)
Hello both

Sorry it is in a Word document ~ there is a facility for Borders but I can't get it to just be around a resized photo or census etc. it boxes it in to the width of the pages so there is the item in the centre and then a blank space until the black border at the full width of the page.

Best wishes
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:36 GMT (UK)
When you have the border to the edges with the item in the centre can you see where your margins are? If you highlight the item and then change the margin settings does it should the problem?
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:41 GMT (UK)
It's probably best to put the borders on your picture/certificate/census in a graphics package first and then insert it into your word document.  I think the word borders are (without checking) for the entire word document and not for inserts. 

If you haven't got a graphics programme, someone may be able to suggest a free download.  Don't know if windows picture and fax viewer will do such, as I've never tried but will have a look.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:46 GMT (UK)
I use Word all the time and have no problems putting a border, double border, etc. around a portion of text, etc.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: silvery on Wednesday 12 March 08 18:53 GMT (UK)
ooh right  :)
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 12 March 08 19:02 GMT (UK)
I insert a picture, etc. from file then select the rectangle tool with no fill and put it around the image and select borders for that.

Gadget
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 19:15 GMT (UK)
Ok Thank you all for your input ~ I have got Paintshop Pro 8 but I haven't used it yet.  I am on the first page of creating my family history book so I need something that is going to be user friendly.

I will try everything you have suggested thank you.

Kind regards
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 19:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Gadget

I am using your instructions from before about inserting a picture into Word which is fine and I can resize too.  But where are you finding the 'rectangle' to put a border around your photo or cert etc.

Best wishes
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 12 March 08 22:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirles

Sorry for the delay - been out 8)

The easiest is to go to View ->Toolbars and click on Drawing. This should bring up the Graphics toolbar - probably at the bottom of the screen. You'll then see the rectangle tool and various other options.

Have a play  :)

To be honest, I would put borders on in PaintShop or any other Graphics program (as silvery suggested)  but this should work fine  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 23:25 GMT (UK)
I'm still having probs Gadget, do you have Windows XP?

I need to call it a night now, but I shall try again tomorrow.

Best wishes
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 12 March 08 23:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirley

I have XP Prof. andOffice Prof 2003.  Let me know your probs tomorrow - what you're  trying to do, etc. and I'll see if I can duplicate them.

Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Wednesday 12 March 08 23:42 GMT (UK)
Cheers Gadget see you tomorrow. Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Thursday 13 March 08 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirley,

Here are instructions for borders in Word - it is not hard to do, but it can be a bit fiddly. 

In the second pic  should have said Click on Format Autoshape
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 13:01 GMT (UK)

Hi Sula

My View Toolbars only has Standard, Formatting, and Large Icons I cannot get drawing to minimise on the bottom toolbar.

I have already clicked on the document I want to border and when I select drawing/rectangle it just shades the document out.

Also I don't have Format Autoshape.

My computer doesn't seem to be the same as yours.

Best wishes
Shirley

Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 13:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirley

I think sula is suggesting what I was saying last night - you have to select the Fill option (the little bucket)  and then no fill.

I hope sula can put this up for you as i'm off shortly.

Gadget  :)
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Thursday 13 March 08 13:15 GMT (UK)
I'm sorry Shirley,  just got distracted at this end.
I will put up the other screenshots just in case they help ...
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Thursday 13 March 08 13:19 GMT (UK)
Finally ,,,
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Thursday 13 March 08 13:30 GMT (UK)
Shirley, do you have the document open in Word?
Even if we have different versions, Word should still have a drawing toolbar.
This is what mine looks when you make the Drawing toolbar visible
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:02 GMT (UK)
Sorry Sula

I am really trying everything. Still no good

My document is open in Word on my View icon is has Toolbars with an arrow.
Ruler ticked
Status bar ticked
All Characters
Header and Footer
-------------------
Zoom

When I go to the Toolbars arrow I then have Standard, Formatting, Large Icons.
That's all.

Best wishes
Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:05 GMT (UK)
Tick on the Formatting one, Shirley, it should expand the list

Gadget
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:09 GMT (UK)
Formatting was ticked and Standard was ticked.

Clicking on Formatting again took out the bottom line of fonts, bold, italics, underline etc.

? ???
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:17 GMT (UK)
keep those in.

Don't you have a Drawing toolbar at all  :-\

What version of word do you have?
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:19 GMT (UK)
Microsoft Works Word XP x
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:20 GMT (UK)
This is what I see:
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:22 GMT (UK)
I have a New Drawing Icon when I click on it it leaves a shaded square behind on my document and the Drawing screen practically covers my document.
It is Microsoft Drawing 1.01
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:26 GMT (UK)
Some of those items are on my Standard Toolbar which is ticked.
Yours looks very user friendly.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:27 GMT (UK)
Do you have this at the bottom of the screen - Autoshapes and the fill icon which, when clicked on, brings up this fill menu
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:30 GMT (UK)
No I don't have autoshapes at all and nothing at the bottom of screen.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:36 GMT (UK)
If you go to Tools on the top bar and then Customise and this should bring up a Toolbar menu - see what you have clicked in there.  Make sure that Drawing is ticked
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
This shot shows  Drawing on the list
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:43 GMT (UK)
Nope
Haven't got a Customize
The only thing that comes near Customise would be Options but that only has items like spell check, theasurus, writing style and measurements whether centimetres or inches.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:45 GMT (UK)
Like this:

Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 14:50 GMT (UK)
Mine has
Spelling and Grammar
Thesaurus
Auto Correct
Word Count
Mail Merge  (has an arrow)
Labels
Envelopes
Address Book
-----------------------
Options
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 14:59 GMT (UK)
Does it have the double downward arrow below Options?
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 15:01 GMT (UK)
No it doesn't ~ I'm coming to the conclusion I haven't got very good software compared to what you have perhaps I should get something else?
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 15:04 GMT (UK)
I'm wondering if it wasn't installed when you installed Word. Were you short of space and only selected the 'normal' installation or did you select All?

It might be on the Word disks and just needs installing. Otherwise, it would be best to put the borders around in your PSP package and then insert the resulting files into the Word Doc.

Gadget  :-\
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: sula_nebouxii on Thursday 13 March 08 15:06 GMT (UK)
Microsoft Works Word XP x

Shirley, I think Works Word is  different to Office Word, which is what I'm using - so I'm afraid I don't know how to find your drawing toolbar, if there is one.

You may have to put the borders on in a graphics program after all.

Sorry I have not been able to help.

Sula
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 13 March 08 15:07 GMT (UK)
Shirles- I have Word 2003 and if I go into View then Toolbars it comes up much like the picture someone posted above.
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 15:09 GMT (UK)

 
Adding borders in PaintShopPro:

open your file

Then select Image from the top Menu Bar

Then select - Add Borders
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 15:13 GMT (UK)
You will then get an Add borders dialogue. Select your line thickness

Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 15:15 GMT (UK)
Also, before you do this, make sure that the canvas colour is the same as the colour that you want for your border - bottom one on this image
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Shirles on Thursday 13 March 08 15:33 GMT (UK)
I think my computer froze I wasn't getting any notification ~ I didn't know I had all these messages ~ thank you Sula I appreciate very much what you have been posting.  Word was already installed on my harddrive when I bought the computer.

I will follow the instructions for Graphics now ~ I only bought PSP for my Grandchildren to use, but they haven't been since I installed it, so I don't hold much hope of me being able to do it on that if I can't do it on Word.

Thanks ever so much for the time and trouble you have taken both Sula and Gadget.

Best wishes Shirley
Title: Re: Borders around various items
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 13 March 08 15:34 GMT (UK)
Shirley

If you do have problems, I'll put borders around for you - if not too many. I'll PM you my e-mail.

Gadget