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Title: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 11 March 08 16:56 GMT (UK)
I am seeking the family of

Thomas Caines, I believe that he was born in Henstridge Wincanton about 1890.
He died in 1929 aged 39 in Basingstoke Hants.

Can anyone help further?

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 March 08 17:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Muffin41,

not sure if you're looking for ancestors or descendants

Here's 1901
RG13/2304 fol.49 p.21
Steel Well, Henstridge, Wincanton, Somerset
CAINES
Louisa  Wife m 38 Glove Machinist Dorset Child Okeford
George son 13 Labourer on Farm
Walter son 12
Tom son 11
Bertram 8
all children b. Henstridge

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 March 08 17:13 GMT (UK)
birth reg for Tom:

Tom Caines  1890 Mar Qu Wincanton 5c 437
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 11 March 08 17:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara :)

I“m looking for Thomas“ancestors, I have his marriage and descendants sorted out. ;)

I had been told that his mother was Louisa  :)  Maiden name not found yet. :'(

Muffin :)

Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: yonderpeasant on Tuesday 11 March 08 17:56 GMT (UK)
1891 Wincanton RG12/1902/49/24
Steel Well Marsh Lane Henstridge
Louisa Cains head mar 28 husband from home b.Child Okeford Dorset
Ann            daur         11                               b.Twyford Leics
Charles      son         9                                 b.East Grafton Hampshire
Fanny          daur        8                                b.Henstridge Somerset
George         son         4                                           do
Walter I        son         2                                           do
Tom              son        1                                           do
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Muffin41 on Tuesday 11 March 08 18:28 GMT (UK)
I wonder were Louisa“s husband was ???

I have not found any entry in the 1881 census ???

I have found this marriage for a:-

George Caines to Louisa Mildon in Clifton 1876, could this be the right pair ??? :'(

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: yonderpeasant on Tuesday 11 March 08 18:36 GMT (UK)
looks like he had some sort of travelling job or maybe the army/navy as they moved around a bit but i am having a job findind a marriage or the 1881 entry.She wsa only 18 in 1881 too by the look of it.There are about 3 GeorgeCaines to Louisa marriages but none seems quite right.Its going to take a bit of sorting.
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 March 08 19:07 GMT (UK)
Birth cert for Tom would be the answer, or here's eldest child's reg:
 Jun 1879 Caines Ann    Melton Mowbray    7a   297

Barbara
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 March 08 19:33 GMT (UK)
Marriage reg: Mar 1877 Northleach 6a 513  Louisa BALDWING/ George CAINS
There's a Louisa Baldwing in 1871 census born 1863 Child Okeford

1871 RG10/2586  Fol.40  P.29
St. Mary's Street, Thornbury, Gloucester
BALDWING
Charles head m 44 Railway Labourer Gloucestershire Tiverton
Mary      wife  m 40                    Dorsetshire Bridport
Mary       dau     13 Scholar            "                 "
Louisa       "         8     "                  "        Childokford

Barbara
        
        
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas Caines born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 March 08 19:44 GMT (UK)
Bingo for 1881 I think  :-\

under Smith with parents Charles & Mary Baldwin:

RG11/1274  Fol.61p.13
Church Lane Cott, East Grafton, Gt. Bedwyn, Wiltshire
George Smith head m 27 Railway Lab  Somersetshire
Louisa     "      wife  m 26                     Dorset  Bridport         
Mary J     "       dau       3                      Gloucestershire
Ann        "          "         1                      Leicestershire
Charles Baldwin fatherinlaw m 47        Gloucestershire
Mary        "         mother "     m 51        Dorset Bridport

lots of crossing out on this page so maybe how mistakes made
What do you think?

Birth reg:  Sep 1877    Caines    Mary Jane    Northleach 6a 389


Barbara

Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890?
Post by: Muffin41 on Wednesday 12 March 08 11:02 GMT (UK)
The last message looks very good. It matches with the other census entries. :D

The 1877 marriage and 1881 censuses seem to be the same person  ķe: George Smith/Cains. The surname varied over the years ::)

To confirm the link better, my Thomas Caines born 1890 worked on the railway at Basingstoke.
At that time the sons followed their fathers working in the same trade. ;)

Thank you for your help Barbara, you have helped me a lot. :D

Muffin ;D
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 12 March 08 11:12 GMT (UK)
The 1877 marriage and 1881 censuses seem to be the same person  ķe: George Smith/Cains. The surname varied over the years ::)

Knowing that is great!  I didn't realise you knew the surname varied  :)

Barbara  :D

Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890?
Post by: Muffin41 on Wednesday 12 March 08 11:28 GMT (UK)
To be honest, I didn“t know it varied in this case.;D

But it is NOT the first time that I have have found another name which fitted with what I was searching for. :D

When the enumerator wrote what he thought he heard and not what the person said..... (you want to hear my accent!!)

Muffin
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890?
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 12 March 08 11:39 GMT (UK)
What, Smith for Caines, you must have a very broad accent!!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Andi B on Wednesday 28 October 15 17:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Muffin. Are you still looking for info on Thomas Caines? He was my Grandfather's brother.
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Muffin41 on Wednesday 28 October 15 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Andi B,

Welcome to RootsChat; I hope the Forum helps you as it has me over the past years. :D

Any further information referring to Thomas Caines would be welcome. :)

Thomas lived in Woking, Surrey and was a Railway Engine Greaser in 1911.
I know he died in 1929 at or near Basingstoke.

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Andi B on Thursday 29 October 15 08:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Muffin,
You actually know more about Thomas than I do. None of my remaining family knew anything other than the fact that he worked on the railway & was probably killed in the course of his work. I have traced his family back to 1733, mainly just names really. Would this be any help to you or do you already have that info?
Andi B
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 29 October 15 11:28 GMT (UK)
I do not have much about Thomas family other than he was my mother's sisters first husband and they had three children.

I can help you there if you wish.

N.B. You must have sent at least 3 postings before you can use the personal message service.
Look forward to your reply then I can send you any information if you wish.

Muffin41
Title: Re: Look up request for Thomas CAINES born 1890? **COMPLETED**
Post by: Andi B on Thursday 29 October 15 15:05 GMT (UK)
Tom was one of 12 children. Charles, Fanny, Bessie, Emmie, George, Walter, Alice, Clarence(my Grandfather) & 3 others whose names I can't yet find. Ican give you birth & death dates if you wish. They were all born in Henstridge, Somerset. UK. In fact the family all lived in the same house in Henstridge for severalgenerations.
Tom's Parents were George & Louisa Caines.
George was married before he met Louisa but his first wife died after having a child, Henry.
George was one of 12 also. Fanny, Charles, Sarah, Betsey, William, Jane, Soloman Sarah, Henry, Mary Jane & Charles (again).
George's Parents were George & Ann Caines. I have only been able to trace 1 sibling for this George But I haven't yet used any websites such as Ancestry. All my research so far has been done in actual record offices, several years ago.
This George's Parents were James & Rachel Caines. I found a number of entries for this couple receiving money from the Poor fund, including money to buy a coffin when James died.
James' Parents wereJoseph & Grace Caines.
Joseph's Parents were James & Judith Caines. James was born around 1733.
I am about to begin more research soon using the internet. As I said, all of my research was done before these websites existed so it was quite hard work!
It was great to learn about Tom as my Dad knew of a rumour about him working & dying on the railway but I hadn't been able to verify it.
Let me know if you would like dates
Andi B