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Title: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 18:58 GMT (UK)

I have a Francis Josiah Moreton who married my relative Cordelia Davies in Corwen in 1896.In the 1901 Census in Cefn Mawr he is given as born in Penygraig Denbighshire in c 1876.This is somewhere new to me!Has anyone any idea where this place was?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: percy porter on Saturday 08 March 08 19:06 GMT (UK)

Here?

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 08 March 08 19:07 GMT (UK)

I don't think that's quite in the correct area, Percy  ;D

William - it might be in the Ceiriog valley - try Googling!


Gadget

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 19:14 GMT (UK)

Thanks Gadget,and I found a birth of a Francis "Isiah" Moreton in 1875 in the Corwen District.Thanks Percy,it was worth a go!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: percy porter on Saturday 08 March 08 19:17 GMT (UK)

I note a different spelling in at least one area

Pen-y-Graig don't know if that makes a difference

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: silvery on Saturday 08 March 08 19:21 GMT (UK)

In Denbigh itself, there is a street called Penygraig.  It may be that it is from waht the old area used to be called.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 19:31 GMT (UK)

Many thanks for the further replies,and whilst I always keep an open mind,I feel it could very well be in the Corwen area.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 08 March 08 19:46 GMT (UK)

Quote from: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 19:14 GMT (UK)

Thanks Gadget,and I found a birth of a Francis "Isiah" Moreton in 1875 in the Corwen District.Thanks Percy,it was worth a go!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Hi William  :)

The Graig area which I referred to is/was in the Corwen RD - Llangollen parish. just south of Dolywern, if my memory serves me correctly - I had school friends from there.

If you've lived in that area - as you and I have done - it makes sense!

Denbigh and Glamorgan  ::) ::) ::)


Gadget

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 19:50 GMT (UK)

Many thanks Gadget,and it seems correct.I can't find the character before 1901?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 08 March 08 19:56 GMT (UK)

I would look them up in my resources, William, but I'm on strike!

Gadget

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 20:23 GMT (UK)

On strike!Shall I put the matter to arbitration?!

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 08 March 08 21:31 GMT (UK)

We could go through 'normal channels' William  :)

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: hiraeth on Saturday 08 March 08 23:23 GMT (UK)

William

there is a rather suspicious looking entry for a "Hosea" Moreton age 14 in Cefn Mawr 1891 census
 RG12/4613/84/9

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 23:49 GMT (UK)

Thanks Heather,and it may be the same one?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 08 March 08 23:53 GMT (UK)

Apart from Graig - opposite Dolywern/Pontfadog, there's a Tan y graig  just on the top between Glyndyfrdwy and Glyn.  So there could be more than one 'Head of the Rock' in that area.

Gadget

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 09 March 08 00:26 GMT (UK)

Birth Registration:

Francis Isiah Moreton , Sept q, 1875, Corwen, vol 11b, page 392

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 09 March 08 07:43 GMT (UK)

Thanks Gadget,and I think it is the correct one.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Hen Locsin on Tuesday 18 March 08 21:21 GMT (UK)

There is also a Penygraig, which is part of Brymbo Near Wrexham. ???
Hen Locsin 8)

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: Gene Genius on Saturday 05 April 08 13:46 BST (UK)

I had an aunt from this Penygraig, the one in Brymbo. The name is still widely used.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: heva on Thursday 05 May 11 23:10 BST (UK)

Quote from: wrjones on Saturday 08 March 08 18:58 GMT (UK)

I have a Francis Josiah Moreton who married my relative Cordelia Davies in Corwen in 1896.In the 1901 Census in Cefn Mawr he is given as born in Penygraig Denbighshire in c 1876.This is somewhere new to me!Has anyone any idea where this place was?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Hello I have just joined this site tonight and if your still interested I own a derelict house in Glyndyfrdwy called pen-y-graig which is in denbighshire. I dont know if this is the place your looking for or maybe by now have found. Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Friday 06 May 11 09:13 BST (UK)

Many thanks heva,you could very well be correct in that it is in the area I was looking at.

I also wish you a very warm welcome to Rootschat.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Where Is Penygraig Denbighshire?
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 08 May 11 19:35 BST (UK)

New info has come to light which shows that Francis Josiah Moreton was born at Penygraig Farm,Penygraig Froncysyllte.

Regards
William Russell Jones.