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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: MEW53 on Friday 07 March 08 13:15 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to trace Charles & Elizabeth Haughton of Coromahon, Killeshandra. There is a tomb in Croghan cemetry Killeshandra with the following inscription on it :
"Sacred to the memory of Charles Haughton of Coromahon. Died 13 May 1870 aged 69 years. 'Mark the upright and behold the just. For the end of that man is peace.' Also his wife Elizabeth Haughton. Died 15th February 1887, aged 79 years. 'Blessed are the dead Which die in the Lord.'"
From the inscription it looks like Charles was born in 1801 & Elizabeth was born in 1808.
I believe that my great grandmother Mary Jane Wilson's maiden name was Haughton before she married ( she died 14th March 1921). Mary Jane was married to John Wilson who died 19th Dec 1926. Unfortunately I do not have their dates of birth, all I know is that Mary Jane & John Wilson lived in Coromahon House too.
I have tried using IGI and cannot find anything.
Any help to establish any information on the missing generations with the Haughton and Wilson links would be appreciated
Thanks
Margaret
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Mary Jane's marriage should list father's name and occupation. You don't mention what year the marriage took place (which will help narrow down possible age) but have you found her in any census records (will also help with age)?
Death certificates for Charles and Eliza will not give many details (name, age, date and place of death, cause, occupation, informant)
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Thanks Aghadowey,
I don't have any marriage details at all or any census information, all I have is the inscription information.
I am really stuck as to where to start looking.
Margaret
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I meant marriage and census information for Mary Jane. Witrhout more evidence you can't really assume the couple mentioned on the gravestone are connected.
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Hi Aghadowey,
I am pretty sure that the families are related, from comments from my Mother's first cousins, I just do not know how to go about finding the information, where should I go to look up census information. I understand that it is very difficult trying to find out information on Irish relatives.
I will be meeting a long first cousin from Australia next week who is a descendant of the Haughtons & Wilsons who I have not seen for over 40 years, she has got interested in tracing her family history, who knows she may be able to give me some more information.
I do not have any real information on Mary Jane Haughton or John Wilson except for the inscriptions on the graves. I do know that Charles Haughton & John Wilson both lived in Coromahon House at different times. I did have a free trial recently on Ancestry but I was unable to find out any information on my Irish relatives, so I decided not to take up the subscription. I did find information on John & MAry JAne Wilson on IGI but I was not sure that it was correct.
Any advice as to how to proceed would be very welcome
Thanks
Margaret
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At this site ( http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/map.php?&set=yes ) I searched for marriage records for John Wilson in Killashandra. There were 3 entries, with one being a church record from 1876. I then searched on Mary Houghton marriages in Killeshandra, and there was 1 hit - Haughton, Mary J in 1876.
Seems like a possibility to me! I would probably contact the GRO with a request for the civil marriage record ( http://www.gro.ie/fees.htm ).
As for the Census records, you should search at familysearch.org for the film number ( http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp ) and then visit a local FHS and order it. The beauty of Killeshandra is that some of the 1841 census survived, but you can also access the 1901 and 1911 census records.
Good luck,
John
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Thanks John for your help, I will take a look at the sites that you have suggested and see what comes up.
Thanks
Margaret
PS It was lucky I checked the thread cos I didn't get an email notification on my thread even with nitifications set enabled
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The last surviving daughter of Charles Haughton Wilson passed away this week.
My mother May passed away on May Day, she grew up in Killeshandra. She was 85 and had been active up to the very end, although had been very ill for a few weeks, she was as bright as a button.
She is now reunited with my Dad George Veighey who died nearly 2 years ago.
She was great help to me on giving me loads of help tracing our family history. A few months ago we met one of my 2nd cousins for the very first time, my Mum was delighted to meet her.
Her mother (Mum's 1st cousin) had died recently and she was keen to hear some old memories from my mother,who knew her mother so well. We had such a great day and was keen to visit again.
Margaret
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have you seen this Cavan co council , Small private collections ,Archives service 20 june 1876 marriage settlement between John Wilson and Mary Jane Haughton of the first and second part and Edward MCgauran Mountjoy Square city of Dublin and Richard Wilson, Tesiagh, co Leitrim ,farmer of the third part.Maybe if you write to Cavan Co Council you could possibly get a more detailed account of the document might mention their parents.also see 5 feb 1912 trust set up for their children same archives.
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http://www.cavanlibrary.ie/Default.aspx?StructureID_str=36
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also irish census shows them at Loughrafin or Rockfield ,Springfield,Co Cavan .John Wilson born co Leitrim age 47 in 1901 age 60 in 1911 also shows him as landowner at both addresses. sorry i dont know how to put up the link to the census.
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www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Springfield/Loughrafin_or_Rockfield/1064599
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Springfield/Loughnafin__or_Rockfield/341039
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this maybe of interest 1901 census of 15 main st Moville ,Donegal, Charles H Wilson age 17 with Baird family.
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www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Moville/Main_Street/1185943
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Thanks Dathai, this is much appreciated family history replies have stopped for a while, so good to get some replies now.
I hadn't realised that Charles Haughton Wilson my mother's father was in Moville for the 1901 census.
Strange how this reply has appeared when I am arranging my Mum's funeral, she would have loved to find out about Charles and Elizabeth Haughton, my Mum's grandparents who lived in her family home, Coromahon House.
Margaret
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it appears from the 1911 census for William Thomas Baird 41 same address that his wife Elizabeth Jane Wilson/Baird has died, born 9th may 1877 possible death in banbridge oct dec 1910, her sister mary louisa seems to have stayed there possibly to help rear the younger children.Marriage of William Thomas Baird and Lilly Wilson apr june 1899 Cavan,Ireland, vol 3 pge 56.
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this should put the icing on the cake for you. National Archives Ireland ,Calendar of wills and administrations 1858 to 1922, search under both HOughton and HAughton and you will find both Charles and Elizabeth with the dates on the headstone. i think proving beyond doubt that they are your ancestors. oops sorry AGHADOWEY dont know how to make the link to the above site.
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this should put the icing on the cake for you. National Archives Ireland ,Calendar of wills and administrations 1858 to 1922, search under both HOughton and HAughton and you will find both Charles and Elizabeth with the dates on the headstone. i think proving beyond doubt that they are your ancestors. oops sorry AGHADOWEY dont know how to make the link to the above site.
Hi Dathai,
Thanks for the information, I see from the site that this information was only released to the public a few days ago, the site has some great information.
Charles and Elizabeth (nee Arnold) are definitely my great great grandparents, my Mum May would have been delighted if she had still been here, but sadly passed away about 10 days ago on May Day.
Thanks again for providing this information!
Margaret