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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: matthewdeller on Friday 07 March 08 12:32 GMT (UK)
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My great grandfather Herbert J H Groves b. 1890 served in the Royal Army Medical Corp during World War I. His regiment no. 47244 SJT HJH Groves (RAMC) appears on the medals I have and I have found the medal index cards online.
I'm not sure how I may go about finding out more about his time in the army and where he may have served.
Matthew
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Are there any dates on his Medal index card?? have just checked service records on Ancestry online but no joy :(
The MIC may hold clues if you download and post it on the forum.
Ady
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Hi Matthew
A visit to The National Archives at Kew might turn up something for you about your great grandfather. Or, you can wait to see if they eventually come online.
Some of the Service Records are appearing on Ancestry, but I don't think the work is completed yet.
However, 60% of the service records were destroyed in the German bombings of WW2, so there is no guarantee that his records have survived.
If you do plan to visit, perhaps best to wait until the building work disruption is over with, supposedly by late spring.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
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Ancestry have also just started on the Medal Cards ....
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How do I upload MIC to this forum!
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ignore me just figured it out
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just in case - and to save searching :)
Posting
Topic: If you don't know how to post an image...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=51760.0
Topic: Adding images to Posting & Profiles
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html
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Hi Matthew
Firstly, welcome to the Armed Forces forum. :)
Try scanning the image into your computer and save as a jpeg. It will probably go into your Pictures. Then if it needs 'cropped' do that and 'Save as ..... (name it). Once happy with the MIC:
Start your post on the forum as normal, then click on the blue words (underneath the post window).
Attach a photograph or image (and other options)
You now click on the option to 'Browse' your computer. Go to where the MIC is on your computer, Select it, then choose 'Save' and its details should appear in the line, waiting for you to post it. Then click on 'Post' and voila, it should hopefully appear on here. ;D 8)
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Attached Medal Card.
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A good site for RAMC (courtesy of Scrimnet):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/02x7/
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Matthew
It is good to see his medal index card. I'm sure you are aware that he received Pip, Squeak and Wilfred (all three medals).
His 'Victory' medal would have been engraved with his rank of Sergeant, as well as his name and regimental number. He entered the Theatre of War (France) on the 1st August 1915.
I wonder if his Service Records survived! I hope so. As you can see it mentions Herbert being firstly a 'Private', then 'Acting Sergeant', then attaining the rank of 'Sergeant' :D
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I have all the medals. I also have the meritorious medal as well but haven't got round to getting the index card for that. would it be worth it. Is Kew the place to go to see if service records survived? Is this an easy task?
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Hi Matthew
To add to Atom’s post, the VM and BWM were issued as a pair, so both medals should be impressed with the rank/number signified by the cross with four dots. The 1914-15 Star should be impressed with his rank/number on the date he ‘entered theatre’. As you have the medal can you say what is on the 1914-15 Star?
Entering theatre actually means the date he left the UK. This was usually only one day difference, if being sent to France. But if they were going to other theatres the trip would be longer and they would have received the overseas allowance for the trip.
If by ‘meritorious’’ you mean the Meritorious Service Medal, I have a medal roll and I cannot find him under RAMC. Can you say which monarch is on the obverse, and what is impressed on the MSM? These were usually issued to long-term service men, often many years after they were discharged. If he served into the 1920s his papers would not have been released to the TNA, and may still be with the MOD. Do you know when he was discharged from the army?
Ken
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KM1971
Yes its the meritorious service medal inscribed with name, regiment number and RAMC. On reverse is George V i think. inscribtion says 'GEORGIVS V BRITT: something REX ET IND IMP