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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: caroge on Friday 07 March 08 03:11 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for any information on Sarah Jane Johns born in Bristol c1854. She was apparently born in the Temple area of Bristol. If anyone can find me any other details of her, her parents, siblings etc I would be very grateful. She had an illigitimate son in 1872 but I can find no record of the father, unless someone can find her with a person in the 1871 census. I am completely stuck here with Sarah.
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Hi
The only one I can see that fits in the 1871 census is
RG10 2568 79 11
Woolcot Buildings, Bristol
William Johns, 50 Gardener, born Pembroke, Wales
Elizabeth Johns, wife, 51 born Pembroke, Wales
Sarah J Johns, daughter, 18, Dressmaker born Ditton? Gloucestershire
Frederick Johns, son, 16 apprentice wholesale grocer, born Ditton, Gloucestershire
Kerry
MODIFIED - this is the wrong one
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Probably not her though because she doesn't have a son on the 1881, she is with her mother, still unmarried and a dressmaker. Hmmm
Kerry
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Scrub the above, I think I have found her!
RG10 2521 69 19
Temple, Bristol
Jane Johns, Head 44, Tailoress, born Bristol
Louisa Johns, daughter, 9 scholar born Bristol
Sarah Johns, daufhter 17, machinist born Bristol
Charles Johns, son, 12, scholar born Bristol
Harriet Johns, daughter, 10 scholar born Bristol
John Johns, son, 6 scholar born Bristol
Emily Johns, daughter, 4 scholar born Bristol
I think thats better!
Kerry
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Found them in the 1861
RG9 1714 117 6
the writing is very bad but it looks like 9 Greatstone Street, Temple, Bristol
John Johns, 36, Tailor born Cornwall, again bad writing - Hedron which could be Helston
Jane Johns, wife, 33, Tailoress born Temple, Bristol
Sarah J Johns, daughter, 7 scholar born Temple
Elizabeth A Johns, daughter, 5 scholar born Temple
Charles T Johns, son, 3 scholar born Temple
Harriet M Johns, daughter 11 months born Temple
Kerry
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This might be Sarah's birth
Sarah Jane Johns
1854, quarter - March
District - Bristol
volume - 6a
Page - 13
Kerry
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I can't see Sarah on the 1881, do you know the name of her son?
Kerry
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Quite a while ago I found a few LDS batch numbers which are not given on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle and batch number C172954 covers Temple Bristol and is not on the Hugh Wallis site..
It may not help you - I've not checked - but have a look-see anyway ;)
Regards
Chas
P.S. Here's a few more batches for Bristol.
C172731 Emmanuels, Bristol
C170781 Bristol
C172801 Bristol
C024930 St Barnabas Bristol
C023812 Moorfields
M172743 Holy Trinity Bristol
C016835 Bristol
C014101 Clifton
M150804 St George Bristol
P.P.S. Just checked - She' there!!
P.P.P.S. I've heard of one for the price of two but . . . . . . . .
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Thank you CHas but I must sound stupid. What is it I am looking at. I couldn't find her...but I am a bit thick sometimes !!!!
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Hi Kerryb
Thank you for all that... thats wonderful....
Her son was called William James Johns born ? Dec 1872.
She appears at some point to have married a Charles Salter who was 20 yrs older than her.
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Caroge
I've just had a look at the IGI as stated by ChasH
It seems that John and Jane had their children baptised on 05 OCT 1865, at Temple, Bristol together.
If you want to have a look. Click on the link from Chas, then choose Gloucester A-M, pick B for Bristol. Just click on any one of the blue highlights for Bristol to bring up search page, then I copied and pasted Chas's link for Temple and then search on Johns.
Kerry
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Do you have the date of marriage between Sarah and Charles Salter, I searched last night but couldn't find them together.
Kerry
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In fact one can choose any county, any place and any batch, enter the name, change the batch number to the one one wants and submit; but one must bear in mind that the extractions (from church records) may contain errors and some of the original extractions have most likely been deleted.
The data is also to be found in the IGI via the LDS site but will be mixed with potential fairy tales called submitted entries and data from many places. Once upon a time, a submitted entry might have been in an extracted batch but there's no way of finding out so all must be suspect.
Regards
Chas
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Thank you Kerry
I can't find their marriage either. It could be a transcription error I suppose. But Sarah and Charles went on to have more children when they were together. Is there another way to find marriages ?
Thanks so much for your help
Carrie
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Thank you for your help Chas. I only stumbled on the fact that Sarah had called her son William Salter when she was married to Charles Salter and that William had reverted to his birth name of Johns by 1891....by chance. The fact that he was called William Salter in 1881 census really through me off and I couldn't find him for ages.
Carrie