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Title: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 01:43 GMT (UK)
I've been trying for a while now to locate my great grandmother in 1901.  Her name was Eliza Harker, b1874 in Staithes.  I can find her in the 1881 and 1891 census' but not the 1901.  She didn't marry till 1903, and was living in Bradford when she married.  I've tried numerous spellings of her name.  She's not with her parents or any of her siblings. 

Any ideas?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: tarnee on Wednesday 05 March 08 02:55 GMT (UK)
1901 Census

Eliza Harker age 27 born Grantham Lincs still in Lincolnshire, l dont have access to the gov site or ancestry, but she is there.

Jean
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 03:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jean but I think that's a different one.  My Eliza was born in Staithes, near Whitby. 

Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: tarnee on Wednesday 05 March 08 03:08 GMT (UK)
Mine was born Waltham but came under Caistor so this could have happened with yours and also can vary from census to census.

Jean
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 03:23 GMT (UK)
I didn't realise, I thought that the birth county at least would be the same.  Makes it all more confusing!
It's still not my Eliza though, I've had a look and this one is married, mine is still single in 1901.




Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:08 GMT (UK)
What were her parents names, places of birth?  Any siblings?
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:27 GMT (UK)
Hi

I see her on the 1891 and 1881 and maybe a possible in Coatham as a servant, just trying to get rid  of a patient then I will return


Jane ;D
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:35 GMT (UK)
well she is not with the parents and it's not her in Coatham

RG13 4567 116 8
23 OLDHAM STREET, SKELTON

JOHN HARKER HEAD MAR 59 IRON STONE MINER BELOW HINDERWELL
ANN DO WIFE 60 LYTHE
JOHN DO SON S 32 IRONSTONE MINER BELOW EASINGTON
PRISCILLA DO DAU S 22

Jane
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: clivealbert on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:38 GMT (UK)
Hi, Simble, I live in whitby, I,ll have a look in the library on Saturday if they have the PR for staithes. Best Wishes Clive
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:53 GMT (UK)
Thank you all.

Parents, John and Ann and siblings living with them (John and Priscilla), as Jane has said in the above post.  Other siblings - George, Eleanor, Mary and Herbert, all accounted for.  I have the 1901 census for all of them and she's not with them.

Clive I would be very grateful if you would look for me.  Thank you.

Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:56 GMT (UK)
Only me again, did she have an occupation on her marriage certificate?? might lead to a clue, just a thought



Jane - patient gone now  ;D
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 05 March 08 10:57 GMT (UK)
I thought it might have been the Eliza Theaker too Jane but there is a birth for her in 1875  :(
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:03 GMT (UK)
Ok she is well hidden, I have tried a wild card - nothing, changed Harker to Parker, Clarker - nothing, did she have another christian name ???


J
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:18 GMT (UK)
She's a difficult one isn't she? :)

Her middle name was Ann (tried that), no occupation when she was married, nor in the 1891 census when she was 16.  I've tried various different types of her name - Eliz, Elizabeth, Lizzie etc and various surnames.

I checked her husband to be just in case she was living under the brush with him but no! ;)

Apparently she was never quite sure how old she was, maybe she got her age wrong?

 
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:25 GMT (UK)
Why would she go to Bradford if not to work ???  She is a real puzzle I have tried all names, who did she marry



J
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:32 GMT (UK)
She married Simeon Rhodes, he was born 1870 in Bradford.

She apparently went to work as a maid to the vicar of Idle Parish Church as a teenager.  Not sure of the years, but was living with her parents at 16 in 1891.

According to http://www.calverley.info the vicar of the church was a William Marshall, I've checked him for 1901 too and she's not with him.  Presumably she met Simeon when she was working for the vicar. 
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:37 GMT (UK)
Ok is he the one listed as Simon in 1901, living with brother James??  If so, I have checked pages either side to see if she is about in neighbourhood, as my elusive Priscilla does that in 1891, as a boarder in the next street to my gt grandad that she later marries, and still nothing  :(

J
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:40 GMT (UK)
Yes that's him.  I've checked all his siblings too, just in case, she's not there either. 

Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:54 GMT (UK)
I've looked through all the permutaions I can think of for Idle parish in 1901, she doesn't appear to be there.  Any other info? 
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 11:59 GMT (UK)
Only that they were married at Bolton Parish Church, Bradford (1903) and were both residing in parish of Bolton at the time.  After they were married they lived in Undercliffe.  I checked the address they went to live at - someone else was living there in 1901.

Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 12:05 GMT (UK)
I have now also checked 1901 for Wales, will have a look 1901 Scotland  :(
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 05 March 08 12:13 GMT (UK)
Maybe she was just missed off?  It happens  :(
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: Nutty1966 on Wednesday 05 March 08 12:16 GMT (UK)
No not in bonny Scotland  >:(  she is well hidden for sure !!


Have to go soon, as I have appointment, will return later


Jane :D
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Wednesday 05 March 08 12:28 GMT (UK)
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Maybe she was just missed off?

Yes, I expect so. :(

I did wonder if she's been married twice, but can't find anything.

I think I will leave Eliza to her mysteries tonight - (I'm in Australia and it's almost 11pm here).

Thanks everyone for trying.

Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: clivealbert on Saturday 08 March 08 14:01 GMT (UK)
Hi simble,Had a quick look at the 1901 census ,Staithes, Hinderwell, Runswick, no luck, wiil have a further look around Best Wishes Clive
Title: Re: Where did she go?
Post by: skimble on Saturday 08 March 08 20:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks Clive, that was very kind of you.