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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Christopher on Monday 03 March 08 17:16 GMT (UK)
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Funerals in Ireland - www.irishlinks.co.uk/funerals-burial-ireland.htm
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I presume that very poor labourers (in the 19th century) would have all been buried in a common grave without a headstone or memorial?
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Unlikely to have had a headstone or memorial but not necessarily buried in a common grave.
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Would catholic parish registers have kept a records of burials as far back as the 1800's?
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Would catholic parish registers have kept a records of burials as far back as the 1800's?
Depends on the individual church and what records survive.
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hi Christopher
Thanks for the link. It's interesting learning an ancestors way of life. I particularly like the idea of memorial cards. Although it may happen in other parts of the world, I haven't heard of it before.
lil growler
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It's interesting learning an ancestors way of life. I particularly like the idea of memorial cards. Although it may happen in other parts of the world, I haven't heard of it before.
Think the idea of such Memorial Cards would be used amongst Catholics and possible more in certain areas than in others. Also might be a 'recent' thing.
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hi,im not sure how far back memorial cards go but I have
them dating from the 1960s. I remember when my dad died in 1972
that the day after his death notice was in the paper samples from
several printers coming through the letterbox.I don't think they do that now
I'd say people objected to that kind of marketing.I have not seen any earlier than
the 1960s so maybe thats when it started in ireland?
anne
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I have two memorial cards from the 1920s - one for a person who died in Ireland in 1927 and one for a Catholic person of Irish descent who died in England in 1929.
R
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Dr Nick Narratt's articel "The Census, and How to Use It" on the BBC Family Trails Family History website refers to Memorial Cards in 1902 and 1907. It also shows a picture of a 1926 card. www.bbc.co.uk/history/trail/familyhistory/census/using_census_03.shtml
The website for Welsh Cultural History shows a Memorial card of John Jones, Nefyn, who drowned in Porth Neigwl, December 1866 www.tlysau.org.uk/en/item1/9352
Memorial cards were introduced to Ireland just before the First World War. www.rca.ac.uk/show1999/historyofdesign/bolger
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The link Christopher posted is interesting and confirms what I thought about Memorial Cards being used for Catholic funerals.
Memorial cards were introduced to Ireland just before the First World War. www.rca.ac.uk/show1999/historyofdesign/bolger
Attached (I hope) is an example of an Ulster 'death letter' which was basically an invitation to the funeral hand delivered to relatives, friends and neighbours. Earliest one I have (1849) is handwritten but shortly after they were printed on black bordered paper. Many of the ones I have pre-date civil death registration and they almost always give place of interment which few newspaper notices (and death certificates) do not.
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Thanks for your post aghadowey.
The writing on that letter is beautiful.
Christopher
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It is beautiful writing and with the links and information given the memorial cards are definitely recent and in particular used amongst the Catholic.
Thank you Everyone
regards lil
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Hi
All fascinating stuff.
I've memorial cards from well back into the 19th century mostly but not all from Lancashire Catholic family of Irish descent. Many of them were not well off enough to afford a grave stone, but managed this type of memorial.
Many cards give genealogical information, often including the,burial place, which is often not easy to find. Many also include a prayer for the person, or a biblical quote and religious picture.
Best wishes
Emms