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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: merryhow on Thursday 28 February 08 23:03 GMT (UK)
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Hi All, today I found the death of one of my Gt Grandfathers. His name was JOHN SLATER and I discovered that he drowned in 1887, I now have a list of the other men who died .Thought it might help someone.
GEORGE CURRIE 40yrs
WILLIAM PIRIE 34yrs
JOHN SLATER 26yrs ( GtGrandfather )
JAMES SLATER 21yrs
ROBERT SLATER 18yrs
GEORGE GOODBRAND 22yrs
WILLIAM GOODBRAND 16yrs
ALEXANDER WOOD 20/29yrs (I think 29)
The boat was the ANNY and all men were listed as drowned on Jan 20th 1887, all came from PORTSOY.
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The sail boat Annie was in collision with the steam trawler St. Clement of Aberdeen, as reported in the Banffshire Journal dated January 25th 1887.
The Annie was a new boat belonging to James Paterson, coal merchant and fish curer.
John Slater the skipper leaves a widow and four of a family
James Slater brother of the skipper was twenty two and unmarried
Robert Slater aged twenty one,cousin of the skipper was unmarried but supported his mother.
William Pirie leaves a widow and eight children, one of them an infant ten days old
George Currie leaves a widow and family of seven.
Alexander Wood leaves a widow and two children
George Goodbrand aged twenty four and William Goodbrand aged seventeen were brothers and unmarried.
I thought this would be of interest to you.
alexena
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Hi Alexena, amazing I've just walked in to the "Mitchell" to see if I could find anything about this incident. I hadn't checked my e-mail so thought I'd do it here , what a surprise you gave me!
I wonder if the Goodbrands were the brothers of John Slater's wife Bathia Goodbrand?
Thanks Val
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Hi Val,
I just noticed your posting last night when I was browsing through Banffshire and the incident rang a bell. I have a book ' A Sea-faring Saga' written by James Slater where I got the information from. James Slater was married to the granddaughter of William Pirie (one of the crew who was lost on the Annie) He has written several books about Portsoy and the fishing, I met him and his wife one time when I was at Portsoy many years ago. It does look as if the Goodbrand brothers were related to Bathia. I don't think it is a common name in that area. What a tragic time it must have been for those families. Glad to have added a wee bit of info.
alexena
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I am new to this and have just discovered your posting about JOHN SLATER. He is also my great grandfather. His daughter Mary Slater is my grandmother. She came to Canada in 1907 and married Andrew Methven. I am very interested in information about my grandmother Bathia Slater and her children Isabella and Jeannie and their children.
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Hi Cousin Webweaver, welcome to RC, John's daughter Isabella was my Grandmother.
I've lost some details off my lap-top ,will have to go through my paper work but this will take time so here's what I have now.
BATHIA GOODBRAND b 29th Aug 1861 Fordyce BANFF. Mother-JANE GOODBRAND.
Bathia married JOHN SLATER 1880 Portsoy
Children- MARY b 1880
ISABELLA b1884
JEANNIE b 1888
You will see from Alexena's posting that it was reported that John left a widow and FOUR of a family.
Bathia's mother Jane Goodbrand married William Sutherland 6th Sept 1868 Boyndie BANFF. They had at least two children, Mary 1872, William 1874 both born in Fordyce.
Almost forgot, Bathia remarried in 1895 to a JOSEPH ROBERTSON.
Hope this helps Val
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Hi Val Thank you so much for your reply. I was surprised by the four children Bathia was reported to be left with since I believe she only had three. I would like to know if when Bathia remarried to Joseph Robertson in 1895 if they had any other children. Did Joseph bring children into the marriage? I would also like to know about the children of Isabella and Jeannie. I have a number of old pictures of a young man and on the back is written "cousin Willie". I do not have any idea who it is. I could copy and send it if you think you might be able to help.
Thanks
Diane
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Hi Diane, lovely to hear from you. Just on my way to bed (early start to-morrow). Will get back to you soon.
Val
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Hi Val
I have recently come across some old pictures and wonder if you recognize these people. Could it be our great grandmother Bathia with two daughters and a grandaughter? I would love to know.
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Diane
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The William Pirie mentioned in your post was married to a Jane Gardiner.
Jane Gardiner's sister Elizabeth Margaret Gardiner married William Wood (Wildie Post) in 1882.
They were my husband's great grandparents.
Elizabeth Gardiner had a daughter prior to her marriage - father was Alexander Goodbrand!
William Pirie's son John Pirie b. 1881 married Helen Slater b. 1878.
This Helen Slater was the daughter of George Slater b. 1854 - elder brother of the afore-mentioned John and James Slater.
The father of the Slater boys was George Slater 1823-1899. His parents were William Slater and Ann Wood (Wood Post).
Wildie Wood was the grandson of Ann's brother John Wood Post.
There are several other twists and turns, and marriages of course, linking these families!
If anyone is interested in Wood Post let me know - I have rather a lot of certificates!
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hello my name is gloria slater ,born in portsoy my father was john slater(jock) his father was james adison slater,and his father was william slater and his father was john slater ..nay doot there would be some of them linked to the disaster at sea as yet i have not found out as i am doing my family tree
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Just a quick response to all those who have written on this thread my name is christopher james slater i am the grandson of the author mentioned in this link james slater my grandmother was helen pirie and i find it fascinating reading through this and would appreciate any further information thank you
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hello my name is gloria slater ,born in portsoy my father was john slater(jock) his father was james adison slater,and his father was william slater and his father was john slater ..nay doot there would be some of them linked to the disaster at sea as yet i have not found out as i am doing my family tree
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My grandmother, Mary Sutherland, was the daughter of Jane Goodbrand. She had five children, Helen Mair - my mother - Mary Mair, Georgina Mair, William Mair, John (Jack) Mair; my mother had two daughters, the others had no children.
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Hi Canadia
My Great grandmother was Bathia Goodbrand. She was the first daughter of Jane Goodbrand born in 1861 before Jane married William Sutherland in 1868. Bathia married John Slater who was lost at sea in 1887. Bathia and John had three daughters, the oldest was Mary Slater born in1880 who was my grandmother. She came to Canada in 1906 and married Andrew Methven.
From your webname it sounds like you are also a Canadian.
Diane
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Well, hello, Cousin Diane. My grandmother, Mary Sutherland, later Mair, would have been Bathia's half-sister then ? I wish now that my grandma had spoken more about her family. I lived with her when I was a child because my mother fell under a London bus when I was a baby and never fully recovered. So it was Portsoy for me for a long time. I know that there were a lot of Sutherland relations and that the Findlaters came into it all somehow. I used to be hauled off to Cornhill and Deskford and Tillienaught and Sandend to visit people but I never knew just who was related to who.
Yes, I live in Halifax NS. Jean