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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: jdowsett on Thursday 28 February 08 14:32 GMT (UK)
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How do I obtain 1929/1930 prison records? I am looking for Charles Richard EASTOE.
Charles R. EASTOE may have been incarcerated somewhere in Cornwall. There is a short article printed August 26, 1930 in the London Gazette that Mr. EASTOE was convicted of the Civil Power and deprived of his rank in July 7, 1930.
We know his partner went to Launceston Cornwall (Pages Cross House) to have their child on July 3, 1930. We suspect since there was no family, that his partner went to Launceston to be near Charles Eastoe. How can I get records of Mr. Eastoe's conviction?
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Hi Jdowsett
I dont know if you can see prison records for them years, as I found this while looking around.
Correctional Institutions
In the UK, Prison records are closed for 100 years
regards
ricky
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Hi Ricky:
Thanks for the information. Do you know anything about getting military records?
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Hi Jdowsett
here are a couple of website
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/raf.html
but there are others
ricky
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Also this website
http://www.army.mod.uk/contacts/divisions/records.htm
ricky
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Hi jdowsett and welcome to RootsChat ! :)
Looks like you have been looking for this man for some time ! .... what else have you found out about him ? sounds like he was a soldier so I'm wondering if this may be the same man .... my apologies if it isn't !! you may want to try and find out about this soldier ..... may be easier to find the soldier than prison records ! might also be worth posting on our Armed Forces board .... !!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html
Medal card of Eastoe, Charles R
Norfolk Regiment
15163
Lance Corporal
Norfolk Regiment
Second Lieutenant
Date
1914-1920
http://www.rootschat.com/links/02ui/
Annie :)
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I checked the Times and the Guardian for reports of the case as well as Black Sheep and Google Books but found nothing.
A lawyer might be able to track down the case in the Law Reports for 1929/30
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Shaun ... were you able to see the Gazette article by any chance ? was there anything else in there that may give a clue ?
Annie :)
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Yes Annie - here is the transcription:
"Lt. Charles Richard Eastoe, formerly 5th Bn. Norfolk R., on conviction by the Civil
Power, is deprived of the rank of Lt. 7th July 1930"
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So that must be his medal card then ! :-\
Thanks Shaun .... I couldn't get it !!
Annie :)
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Promotion to Lt (5th Bn Norfolk Regt):
"2nd Lt. C. R. Eastoe to be Lt. 27th August 1919."
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mmmm !
Maybe the best thing would be to get his service record ..... you never know there may be something in there ! if there was a court martial or something ... don't you think ?
Annie :)
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I found the same articles and medical card. I have been researching this family line for quite some time and when I'm not hitting brick walls, I find a few of skeletons in the closet. What fun! ;D I absolutely adore mysteries...
I was thinking that there may have been more articles in newspapers, but I'm in the US and can't find anything online other than the London Gazette. I have information about his birth, marriage, two families, and his death. At the moment, I'm stuck in 1930 trying to find out about his conviction.
Does anyone know what it means to be convicted by the Civil Power? Could he have still been in the military in 1930 to have been stripped of his rank? Or could he have been a civilian?
Thanks a bunch for all your help!
Janice
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He was probably a civilian - the Gazette item says "formerly 5th Bn Norfolk R".
"A retired officer will forfeit his rank and status after conviction by a civil power where said conviction results in a custodial sentence"
The "civil power" means the normal civil judiciary system as opposed to military court-martial.
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From the Devon and Exeter Gazette, Friday 11th July 1930:-
A series of ingenious frauds worked through the advertisement columns of a periodical was disclosed at the petty sessions, when Charles Richard Eastoe, of no fixed abode, was charged with obtaining by false pretences 22s from William Rowe, Pontypridd; 20s from Frank Willis, of Cheltenham; and 33s 6d from John Henry Sanders, of Bartholomew Street, Newbury, all about May 15th. Eastoe pleaded guilty to each charge, and also asked that 16 other similar cases in various parts of the country be taken into account. He was sent to prison for four months, with hard labour, on each charge – 12 months in all.
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Tuesday 24 June 1930, Exeter and Plymouth Gazette:-
Charles Richard Eastoe was charged under the name of J. Ward, late 5, Teignmouth-street Teignmouth, with having obtained 22s. bv false pretences from William Rowe.................
An alias and an address. Very useful.