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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: sharay on Thursday 28 February 08 03:33 GMT (UK)
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If anyone is from Perth, does the Shaftesbury Hotel still exist? A Thomas Peter Aston listed this hotel as his residence in 1916. Have been googling for hours and came up with a reference to it 1975, that it may have been in Stirling Street, and an early photo. Is it still there? Is or was it Stirling Street.
Thanks
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Hello
It could have been called
The Grand Central Shaftesbury Hotel.
When I googled Shaftesbury Hotel Perth Western Australia
Up came a picture of Boans department store with the Grand central Shaftesbury Hotel in the back ground c 1938
Pam
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I cannot see the Shaftesbury in the phone book it could have changed names.
View the image State library of Western Australia
picture
of the Shaftesbury Hotel Stirling Street Northbridge in 1930 these addresses were in East perth
Also there is a Grand Central Wellington Street
Pam
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hello ;D
If you google......................
http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/
Enter relevent details in search, you have a few options!
This is the website for the State library in perth............
Cheers from Chrissy...from very hot in perth today!!!!!!
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hello Chrissy
It is my day off and I have spent it insides under the air condioner.
Pam
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Thanks for your replies,
I feel confident enough to say the Shaftesbury Hotel was in Stirling Street, and that is was a derelict building in 1985. Am wondering if it still stands today, was it demolished or renovated. I have so little on the man who listed the hotel as his address, filling in the blanks with what I can.
Thanks again
Sharon
(have seen the temps in Perth, ouch, Brisbane has only had one really yuck day all summer)
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Hi Sharon,
I checked the WA Post Office Directory for 1916. It has a Shftesbry htl listed at 35-43 Stirling Street, on the left hand side of the road between Lincoln and James Streets, the manager being a Frank R Chalk. Next door is the Shaftesbury Theatre. Stirling Street was considered part of Perth then.
Adrianne
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Here is the link
http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/pdf/battye/pods/1916/0139.pdf
Adrianne
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I can see no sign of Lincoln st in that area (opposite the Sunday times bldg), although there is a lincoln st much further north near bulwer st.
Interesting though, in my googling for the place I did find that it was in the 70s a known "gay" venue !!
http://ourcloset.isinperth.com/index.php?blog=12&cat=97&page=1
Denn
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Apologies, I misread the directory, it's between the beginning of Stirling St (the southern end) and James Street :-[
Adrianne
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Apologies, I misread the directory, it's between the beginning of Stirling St (the southern end) and James Street :-[
Adrianne
That makes more sense. Actually the directory threw me off track too -I hadn't seen the relevence of those comments like "Here is lincoln st:"
Denn
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The Shaftesbury, if it was indeed on the block in question, is most certainly not there any more. Being young still ;D I can only remember that part of Perth up to about 10 years ago, when it was a vacant block. I believe a new building has been built there now.
Adrianne
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during the 90s I reckon I have knew every alcohol outlet in the state, not that I am a dedicated drinker but I had a transport buisines, delivering wines and spirits throughout WA. The point being that I never came across this hotel, so it would seem that it dissappeared between 1975 and 1990.
As for location, do you think that it may have been where the police special branch car park is?
Denn
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Hi Denn,
Currently, it's the Rick Hart Superstore formerly the Myer Megamart.
Sharon,
try googling Canturbury Court, it's what the Shaftesbury was renamed, though not until after 1949.
Adrianne
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Hi there all. I realise these posts were from 2008 - but I can tell you the Shaftesbury hotel definitely is not there and yes there is a multi storied car park built there. it was a vacant site for some time prior.
It was built by Thomas Alfred Shafto - an ancestor of mine in about 1904. He then built the shaftesbury Theatre next to it which in the 1960's had a car park built on that site. That was flattened back in the 1990's.
If any one wants a history of the building they can contact me.
it became the Luor, tivoli, a roller skate rink, Ballroom etc.
Cheers
Peter Spark Australia.
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re Dennford - couldnt reply to your message for some reason.
I see you are researching Proctor - Thomas Alfred Shafto married Florence Isabella Proctor Treloar in 1923.
Email me is easier - (*)
Cheers
Peter
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re Dennford - couldnt reply to your message for some reason.
I see you are researching Proctor - Thomas Alfred Shafto married Florence Isabella Proctor Treloar in 1923.
Email me is easier - (*)
Cheers
Peter
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Hi Peter,
I have contacted you again via pm. Do you have any more info' on your Florence Proctor?
Denn
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I had to signup just answer this post, Id like to know who you are to as about the Shaftesbury. This old Hotel means a lot to me because when I was a child and up until I was a teenager my father owned it. So I had lots of good times and have lots of story's to tell... But sadly now it no longer exists
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Hi Sharay, did you have success with finding your resident of the Shaftesbury Hotel? I too am trying to find my Great Grandparents, Blanche Wallace and William Scott. They had this hotel as their permanent residence in 1914 while the were doing shows at the theatre. If you have a link to a site, I'd love that. They may have had their children with them at the time. Thanks kindly, Netty.
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The Shaftesbury Hotel was built about 1904 by Thomas Alfred Shafto, businessman, Perth City Councillor and owner of the Shaftesbury Gardens at 49 Stirling St, Perth (a semi-open air picture theatre with a seating capacity for 2000 people that opened in 1911). The Shaftesbury, the Luxor and the Tivoli, were all on the same site, but at different times. It was a celebration of Perth’s home of vaudeville where comedians, clowns, tumblers, acrobats, magicians and dancing girls all performed. This fleapit theatre remained as the Shaftesbury until it closed in 1924, re-opened as the Luxor in 1925 to be called the Ritz in 1934 and then back to the Luxor.
There is a photo of the hotel as well
Kaz
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The Ritz at this time was routinely promoted as “formerly the Luxor Theatre” (having been renamed in March 1934). The venue appears to have struggled to establish its new identity, and a few weeks into the Cameo Revue Company season “Ritz” was removed from advertisements and replaced with Luxor.
In the forties it was known as the Tivoli, then it was converted for dancing and became Canterbury Court Ballroom with a muti-story car-park added above in 1969, before demolition in 1990 and then for a while the site of the Myer Megamart building.
kaz
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Hi Suzyray, thanks for that info. My Grandfather Great Scott was a magician who performed there. I'd love to find a site with more information & possibly pictures of the performers around 1914. His wife was a pianist/violinist.
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another poster for the thearte.
Kaz
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RIP SHAFTESBURY HOTEL, STIRLING ST, NORTHBRIDGE, 1930s - Whole block demolished, now the Megamart...
Kaz
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Ok there is some miss information going on with the Shaftesbury Hotel. Firstly the Shaftesbury was at the start of Stirling St straight across from the Sunday times on the same side as the Loaded Dog wine bar. In-between the Shaftesbury and the Loaded Dog was Canterbury Court mall that ran from Stirling St up to Beaufort St. We had the Shaftesbury from 1968 to 1978 where the last few years was shared ownership with a lady called Merry cant remember her last name. I believe the place suzyvan talking about was the dance hall around the corner because the Shaftesbury was called the Shaftesbury the hole time we where there right up till its death. I remember all that mall being closed. I remember being able to go from the hotel thru the empty shops and into the 9 story car park above the dance hall. There we would throw cans of coke down onto the pavement and If you spun it just right it would burst open at the top and spray in a large circle. The dance halls Known as the Shaftesbury Theatre from 1912, the entertainment between 1918 and 1936 was almost exclusively vaudeville. The venue’s name changed several times before it was demolished in the 1950s. These included the Luxor (1925), Luxor Picture Theatre (1936), and Tivoli (1940s). It also briefly served as a dance hall (Canterbury Court). Out of that one of the dance hall remained thru the 60s and early 70s.
The Shaftesbury use to have a third story and a balcony at one stage because of the old pictures in the bar and the fact the old lift had a third floor button but no third floor to go too. Apparently the original roof rotted away to the point of not being able to fix, so they just took off the top floor.
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I can tell you the Shaftesbury Hotel in Stirling St was demolished in about 1990.
I have photos from it in the 1950s 1980s and of course the ones on line for 1930s.
My ancestor Thomas Alfred Shafto built the hotel
Any more info just ask.
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Could you please email me BITZA THIS
Id like to know more about the location of the various buildings around the Shaftesbury. Many different versions of where they were and looking at photos I am now confused.
Please email me sparkpeter@bigpond.com
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could you please email me sparkpeter@bigpond.com
I would like to know more about the buildings and locations around the Shaftesbury Hotel.
It is all very confusing as looking at the photos there seems to be two Canterbury Court buildings so would love to know by you drawing the location of each of the buildings - Shaftesbury Hotel, Canterbury Court, the arcade you speak about, the multstorey carpark put up in 1959 (looks like right next to hotel cnr James and Stirling st - shaftesbury was further down stirling towards the bend. Please would love to correspond and get the history correct.
Cheers
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I stayed in the Shaftesbury Hotel in Perth July 1983. I was visiting on the US Aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson. I had a great time, they had a small bar that had live bands at night. Saw Wendy and the Rockets at a show close by. And when you left the Hotel and went to your left there was a bar down the street that played alot of good rock music. I later found out it was a aborigine bar, I'm white. Lots of Swan and Emu lager. You could tell the hotel was old, but it was affordable and a lot of fun. here is a flyer from another club I visited.
(https://i.ibb.co/tYM2zvW/eagle-one.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFMezr28ckw
James O'Brien
Dallas, Georgia
USA