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Title: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: spendy4 on Wednesday 27 February 08 09:08 GMT (UK)
My family lived in Gatehouse in the 1770's and earlier, and old family notes indicate their house was on the "Main" or "Front" street, next to the river.  Can anyone tell me what the name of that street is now and if the old houses on that street still exist?  Thanks for your help....
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: sancti on Wednesday 27 February 08 09:36 GMT (UK)
There is an 1854 map available to view online at

www.old-maps.co.uk
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: spendy4 on Wednesday 27 February 08 23:08 GMT (UK)
Sancti, thanks so much for giving me the website with the maps. I looked for a map and couldn't find one. This looks like a handy website for future use, too.  :)
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Callywoods on Thursday 28 February 08 10:02 GMT (UK)
The street called front street is now the High Street.and is in the parish of Girthon. Over the bridge the parish is Anwoth and the High Street becomes Fleet Street.  Most of the houses were built about 1780 and are still there.
I live in Gatehouse so if there's anything else you want help with do ask. I am working on  the history of Gatehouse so would be intersted to know the names of your ancestors and anything else you know about them.
Best wishes Mary
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: ankerdine on Friday 29 February 08 13:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Callywoods

You have replied to a post of mine before I think. You may be interested to learn that, as previously mentioned, my gtx2 grandmother was married in Back Fleet Street, Anworth Parish, in 1855 according to the Rites of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. I was told that there was a Catholic House there and a priest would have been called over from Kirkcudbright or further afield to carry out the ceremony. Well, I have found another relative married in Back Fleet Street in 1870 according to the Established Church of Scotland. Would this have meant that there wasn't a church there at all at that time? I think that I mentioned that I was told Back Fleet Street was now Catherine Street but that you had a slightly different opinion?

I will let you know if I find any others.
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Callywoods on Friday 29 February 08 14:13 GMT (UK)
Yes, I remember writing to you about Back Fleet Street.
It was very common until comparatively recent times for marriages to take place in the bride's parents home rather than the church.  I know that a marriage took place in my cottage as recently as 1921.  An American couple called one day to take photos of it! 
Best wishes Mary
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: ankerdine on Friday 29 February 08 14:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary
I have just checked my old posts. I do apologise I have repeated myself. It's age - my excuse!

If you are interested, for your history of Gatehouse. My Marshall family were on both 1841 and 1851 census records at Creetown in Spittall Lennie Barn and then the Carpet Mill Barn. As tinkers I can just image them trecking overland to Gatehouse, or maybe they went by boat?

Can't wait for our annual trip up to SW Scotland.

Regards,

Judy
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: jackie3 on Saturday 14 February 09 14:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Callywoods,

Re your post of Feb.08 regarding the history of Gatehouse.  For your information, my Gt. Grandfather, Alexander McClure, was born about 1829 in Gatehouse.  His parents were John McClure, born abt. 1762 and Margaret Brown, born 1786.  To date I have not been able to find their marriage, but I suspect Margaret was his second wife, owing to the fact he was some 24 years older.  The 1841 census shows the family living in Fleet Street North.  John died in 1847 and Margaret died in 1850.  Very little information is known about John, although he was a Baillie, but other names associated with his children in Gatehouse are Clinton, McMurray and Porteous.

Regards,
Jackie
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Callywoods on Saturday 14 February 09 17:34 GMT (UK)
I have come across your McClures before. John McClure was a mason of some repute and built some of the better houses in Gatehouse. He also owned some property.
My Gatehouse ancestors are McMurrays so I know that Nathan McMurray and his wife Margaret McClure ( daughter of John) lived next door in Fleet Street.
 Hope this is of interest.

Mary
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: jackie3 on Tuesday 24 March 09 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Callywoods,

Sorry for not replying earlier, but I've only just seen your reply of 14/2/09 re McClures.  My old computer stopped working and I've only just had a new one.

Thank you for the information regarding John McClure.  I know nothing about his life so would appreciate any information you may have about him.
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Jennykay on Thursday 07 May 09 18:53 BST (UK)
Hello Callywoods,

Having recently completed a family history on the Selkirks of Gatehouse of Fleet, I was interested to hear that you are writing a history of the town.  Would love to be in touch.

Regards,
Jennykay
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Jennykay on Saturday 09 May 09 08:32 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply Mary.  Unfortunately I am receiving the message that I cannot respond there.  This might be because my Rootsweb membership has elapsed.  I think I am not supposed to add my email address here so am not sure how I can contact you directly!

Certainly I have information about Selkirks in Gatehouse from John Selkrig who married Jean Affleck in Girthon 1723 and James married Janet Carson Girthon 1726 and all the generations up to the grandchildren of John Charles Selkirk and Jannet Moffat who kept the Bay Horse until about 1834.  John's son Charles was a tanner in partnership with Samuel Menzies.  I also have information about the Gale which sailed to America in 1775 with James Selkirk on board and members of the Henry family who I think were to the Herons.  I'll need to look that up.

Jenny


Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Jennykay on Saturday 09 May 09 08:48 BST (UK)
Apologies.  I have worked out how to send private messages now!

Jenny
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: ankerdine on Saturday 09 May 09 10:53 BST (UK)
Hi Callywoods
We are going up to Dumfries and Galloway in a few weeks time. We shall certainly drop in at Gatehouse of Fleet again. It's such a pretty town.
Do you remember I told you about meeting an old  man named Jimmy Dent who told us that Catherine Street was formerly Back Fleet Street, where my gtx2 grandmother was married.
Regards
Judy
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: michelew on Friday 22 May 09 17:43 BST (UK)
My family came from Anwoth/Gatehouse and lived at Fleet Street.
They were called Hewitson (sometimes Hewatson/Hewetson or Hewtson)

My great grandmother left Anwoth and moved to Rochdale, Lancashire, England - and her brother and sisters followed later as did her parents. 

One of my grandmothers siblings was called Frances and she drowned in the River Fleet in April 1884.    I have not been able to find out how this happened as it is just shown as accidental drowning on her death certificate.     I was wondering if there would have been any newspaper report on the drowning and where this child is buried.   Or for that matter anything on this Hewitson family.

M.
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: MAGGIE D on Saturday 31 October 09 23:22 GMT (UK)
I have just seen your message about John McClure and Margaret Brown of Gatehouse of Fleet and the marriage of their daughter Margaret McClure to Nathan(iel) McMurray. There is a headstone in memory of Nathan erected by his son William In Anwoth Old Kirkyard. I have been trying to find any link between him and my GGGgrandfather James McMurray Weaver of Anwoth ( died 1865) married to Margaret Sproat (died 1850) they are also buried at Anwoth Old Kirkyard.  The only remote possibility I have found that they may be linked is that one of their daughters was called Janet Brown McMurray 1817 1899
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: Callywoods on Sunday 01 November 09 08:58 GMT (UK)
My ancestors were Gatehouse McMurrays so I have been very interested in finding a link between the families. My ggggrandparents also have a tombstone at Anwoth.  They were James McMurrie and Sarah McClune. My distant cousin Megan  in Alabama and I have found a great deal of info on the McClunes but cant find anything definite about James.  We have not been able to find any connection between the 3 McMurray families. Very frustrating!
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: ankerdine on Sunday 01 November 09 11:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Callywoods

Nice to read your post and we hope all is well with you. Gatehouse is calling us back again next year! :D

You can have lovely weather in Dumfries and Galloway. 8)

Judy
Title: Re: GATEHOUSE -- old streets
Post by: MAGGIE D on Sunday 01 November 09 17:22 GMT (UK)
I am sure that Nathan McMurray and Margaret mcClure are either related to you or me somehow, but I cannot find any proof