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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Sussex => England => Sussex Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Valley on Sunday 24 February 08 13:09 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I have a Alice Mary Lewry born 1867 Mother Mary no father listed on BC
In 1898 she marries Stephen Charles Smith but now she is Mary Alice married in Brighton. Stephen and mary / Alice had 3 children all born Maresfield, this much I know. My question is who was Mary Lewry parents and where did they come from as I have a peice of paper written ages ago here goes,
Sarah and George Lewery? diff spelling Aunt and uncle to mothers mother 1846 lived nr Brighton and Daughter contracted scarlet Fever from children (nursemaiding) at Crowborough. Returned home with disease and all three in family died within 14 days. Does anyone think the familys are related if so I would love some help with this.
My grandmother was Mary / Alice Lewry and Stephen Smiths Daughter Alice Emily Louise.
Many thanks in advance
Val
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Here is some information (It looks correct). It makes interesting reading but doesn't help you out much I am afraid. Perhaps fits in with family dying from Scarlet Fever?
1901 In Maresfield
Stephen Smith Head of Household 26 years old Bootmaker born Maresfield Crippled in Accident
Alice Smith Wife 32 years old born Maresfield Withered Arm
Alice Smith Daughter 1 year old born Maresfield
RG13/902/64/7
1891
In Uckfield
Alice Lewry 23 Years old General Servant/Domestic Born Maresfield
RG12/785/11/15
1881
Cannot find initially
1871
With Markwick Family in Maresfield
Alice Lewry Nurse Child 3 years old born Maresfield
RG10/1054/71/3
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HI
Thanks for info what would a nurse child be? I have never heard the name markwick mentioned in Family but you never know.
Val
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I imagine that it means the child was being looked after. It could be that her parents were killed by the Scralet fever and the Markwicks looked after her as she grew up. It would be interesting to find the 1881 census info.
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I am just trying to find on 1881 just does not seem to be there also trying to find george and sarah on 1841 cencus
There is a site not tried yet sussex weald site
Val
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Right, think I found her in 1881
Alice Lewery Inmate Uckfield District Union Workhouse 23 years old (age is wrong) Ag Lab born Maresfield
RG11/1053/81/4
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Hi Val
A possiblity for George and Sarah on the 1841?
HO107 1111 7/20 8
Lovel Farm, Cuckfield
George Lewery, 34 LB (I presume Labourer)
Sarah Lewery, 35
James Lewery, 12
George Lewery, 10
Maria Lewery, 7
Elizabeth Lewery, 5
Sarah Lewery, 1
Mary Lewery, 2 weeks
all born in sussex
I will have a look at my records and see if these fit in, I have Lewrys from the Cuckfield area who married into my Johnson family.
Kerry
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The 1851 census for the George and Sarah above is
HO107 1642 201 21
Brook Street, Cuckfield
George Lewry, 45 Farm Labourer born Cuckfield
and includes
Mary Lewry, daughter, 10 born Cuckfield
If this rings any bells I can give you the rest of the family.
Kerry
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A marriage for George and Sarah
George Lewery and Sarah Heasman
10 October 1828 at Slaugham botp by banns
Witnesses - Jn Juniper and Baraba Ayers
Now that is interesting because some of my Lewry siblings marry Junipers.
Kerry
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I have searched on Ancestry and these do seem to be the only George and Sarah Lewry/Lewery and they had a daughter Mary.
Do you have any more details about Mary to help pin her down?
Kerry
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Hi
No more details of mary only birth cert of her daughter born 1867 without father named daughter alice mary born village of Maresfield . I saw the workhouse Alice but it would only make her in her teens so let that one ride.
Val
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Hi
Would love some more details as it all seems somehow to fit in place the sarah Heasman for instance
Val
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Hi Val
It does seem too much a coincidence to have another George Lewry married to a Sarah and had a Mary.
I will see what I can find. Lewry seems to have been big in the Cuckfield down to Brighton area, but Mary could well ahve travelled East.
Kerry
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This seems to fit with her birth
Mary Jane Lewery
1841
Quarter - March
District - Cuckfield
Volume - 7
Page - 312
Kerry
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Hmm just to confuse things totally ::)
There is a Mary Lewry born in Maresfield 1839 to Daniel Lewry and Mary Martin. I went to the Sussex Weald site and found that. But that doesn't explain where the names Sarah and George came from.
Of course as Daniel's grandfather was born in Keymer they could be distantly related and the Sarah and George's Mary went to Maresfield to work with distant cousins??
I can't find any other census records for Mary and presume she must have died before 1871, perhaps of Scarlet Fever. I'll try and trace this other Mary and see if I can rule her out.
Kerry
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Well I don't seem to be getting very far, except my theory is that if Alice was the child of the Mary born in Maresfield, daughter of Daniel and Mary. Daniel died in 1839 and Mary remarried a James Turner.
Now if Mary had given birth to Alice and then died of Scarlet Fever wouldn't Alice have gone to grandparents who are around for at least the 1871 census?
Anyway let me know what you think
Kerry
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Hi Kerry
That seems a posibility to me just going to look at someones tree they sent me on GR be back shortley
Val
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I have a Alice Mary Lewry born 1867 Mother Mary no father listed on BC
In 1898 she marries Stephen Charles Smith but now she is Mary Alice married in Brighton. Stephen and mary / Alice had 3 children all born Maresfield, this much I know. My question is who was Mary Lewry parents and where did they come from as I have a peice of paper written ages ago here goes,
Sarah and George Lewery? diff spelling Aunt and uncle to mothers mother 1846 lived nr Brighton and Daughter contracted scarlet Fever from children (nursemaiding) at Crowborough. Returned home with disease and all three in family died within 14 days.
Is the george and sarah I wonder Mary from maresfied Aunt and uncle as I read from the peice of paper I have.
anyway tree
George L 1806
Sarah H 1806
Maria L 1834
Elice Eliz 1836
Sarah 1839
Mary 1841
Ellen 1845
Amos 1851
ALICE 1869 must be granchild mary's Daughter but 2 years out
Amos married Harriett Newman and had Rose Lewry 1896
Val
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Kerry
Just noticed you are researching HARMER My Mum was a HARMER from Sussex my Grandfather was Sidney H his father was Henry Harmer and other hariret Pont
Any Connection
Val
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Hi Val
I can't find a Sidney Harmer on my tree, but I am sure they are connected. My Harmers were from Ashburnham and Dallington and before that Heathfield. I don't have any Ponts on my tree either but I know there are loads of them around.
Kerry
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If I am reading it correctly Val we need to establish whether Daniel is brother to George Lewry?
Kerry
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Hi
I think maybe they were brothers thats the next step I think. I will make start in a mo.
My Harmers were from Heathfield Burwash and Crowhurst Grandad was a Policeman in Seaford and then Wiversfield then in Crowborough
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Hi
I have been reading with interest your postings on these particular Lewry's. I have them all in my Lewry/Lewery One Name Study and I will search for Mary/Alice's mother in my notes. Do you have the marriage cert for M/A to Stephen Smith? Coincidentally, yesterday I received full details for all Lewry/Lewery marriages in Brighton but unfortunately only up to 1880.
I have about 20 George's in my database, obviously many of them will be duplicates yet to be tied up. Mary is much worse with almost 40 entries !
Denise
lewry@one-name.org
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Hi
Thanks for reply
Mariage cert - April 3rd 1898 Stephen Charles Smith 23 Mary Alice Lewry 31 Stephen was a labourer Mary Alice ? Mary Alice resident at time 41 Wood Street Brighton Stephen just resident in the parish of Batholemew Brighton.
In the presence of H Brandon & A Hart.
Death of now she is Alice Mary same as birth cert March 17th 1956 @ Crowborough Hospital Heart Death notified by Daughter Nellie Rosina Floyd of Crowborough she lived with her daughter and I can just rem little granny Smith.
Stephen Died 11th Dec 1946 Heart when both alive lived at 2 Blackness Cottages Blackness Rd Crowborough. App Stephen lost a leg in an accident some years before and had artificial one, and little Granny smith smoked little black cheroots.
Stephen and Mary/ Alice daughter as above and Alice Emily Louisa born 1st June 1899 Reg Uckfield born maresfield. She was my Grandmother and she Married Frank Rupert Newton born 1900 Curragh Camp Ireland his dad was in Army and posted in Ireland at time of birth.
I can try and get these docs scanned next week and send to you if you would like them.
Stephen and Mary / Alice both buried in the Hearn Road Cem Crowborough, I found the grave but no stone plot details from the council.
I am away tomorrow and back home on Monday.
Regards Val
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Hi Val
Is the box for fathers name on the marriage certificate blank? Also, what is the origin of the piece of paper that you mentioned in your first post?
Yes I would like to see the scanned docs and put the marriage cert in my records if that's OK with you.
Have you looked for a baptism in the original PR's as they do occasionally give the father's name?
Denise
lewry@one-name.org
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Hi Nisi
Have not forgotten the scanned documents just been a bit busy at work
Val
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Sue9 has Lewrys from that area, maybe worth contacting her to see if she can help you