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Title: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Saturday 23 February 08 10:51 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for the parents, and or ancestors of John Bruce 1844.  Also details of his wife Louise ?
In later years he moved to Drighlington and Batley in Yorkshire.
I appreciate any help.
Percy Featherstone.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:19 GMT (UK)
there are three possibles
john bruce. b. 1843 glasgow son of mary.
john bruce. b. 1844. glasgow. son of henry-agnes.
john bruce. b. 1845. glasgow living with grandfather john and possible father hugh in sutherland.

if you want me to post the full entries for any or all of these then i will do so
though you really need a bit more to go on
his marriage cert would help you.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Saturday 23 February 08 11:34 GMT (UK)
Hello Wozzle, Thank you . The only other info I have is from the 1891 census England where John was living in Batley Yorkshire. His wife was Louise and there children were:-
Alice Ann Bruce age 4
Annie Bruce 7/12
Arthur Bruce 13  (my grandad)
Ernest Bruce 15
Harry Bruce 21
Miranda Bruce 17
John Bruce now 47
Louise bruce 36
and an Alexanda Merton 69
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:40 GMT (UK)
i have just been looking back and it looks like he was married twice in 1881 censushe is married to an anne
in 1871 he is with son harry and wife ann  in 1891 as you say he is with wife louise.
so the assumption is that he married louise between 1881-1891.
will see if i can find the marriage.
do you have the 1871,1881 census or do you want me to post them here.
in 1871 he gives a different birthplace.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:48 GMT (UK)
possible marriage
name john bruce.
y.o.r. 1885
qtr. jan/feb/mar.
dist. dewsbury.
county. yorkshire-west riding,west yorkshire.
vol. 9b.
page. 689.
also on the same page. louisa fearnley. elizabeth ingham. joseph robert hainsworth.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:49 GMT (UK)
now need to find a death of an ann bruce between 1881-1885 in yorkshire.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:54 GMT (UK)
here we are possibly her
name ann bruce
y.o.r. 1884
qtr. oct/nov/dec.
dist. bradford.
county. yorkshire-west riding,west yorkshire.
vol. 9b.
page. 13.
est.birth year. 1844.
age at death. 40.


Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 11:59 GMT (UK)
found louisa fearnley in 1881 born abt 1857 birthplace kirkheaton
so it looks quite likely this is the right marriage
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 23 February 08 12:22 GMT (UK)
have johns first marriage in 1864 in dewsbury to either ann longbottom or ann akeroyd.
will have a further look later on  to try and determine which it is,
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Sunday 24 February 08 15:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Wozzle,  I saw found Johns first marriage in 1864 to either Ann Longbottom or Ann Akeroyd  in BDM free,  but i can't find wich of the two it is.
Percy.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 24 February 08 18:16 GMT (UK)
have had a look on 1861 census to try and see which ann was his wife
unfortunately there were a few ann longbottoms whom it could be
and there was also one ann akeroyd whom it could have been
so if you really want to be sure you will need the marr.cert.

sorry
mick.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Monday 25 February 08 16:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks Mick, and thanks for all your help I very much appreciate it.
Percy.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 16:50 GMT (UK)
do you want me to try and follow louise through the censuses before her marriage.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Monday 25 February 08 16:56 GMT (UK)
Yes please Mick , if its no trouble to you.
Percy.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 17:12 GMT (UK)
1861
RG9/3259/81/28.
daniel fearnley age 55. b. mirfield,yorkshire. occ. fancy weaver.  head.
mary ann fearnley age 51. b. heckmondwike,yorkshire. wife.
sarah fearnley age 23. b. kirkheaton. occ. cotton warper. daughter.
betsy fearnley age 17. b. ditto. occ. cotton warper. daughter.
hannah fearnley age 14, b. ditto. occ. cotton peicer. daughter.
louisa fearnley age 4. b. ditto. grand-daughter.
living at ; helm,kirkheaton,yorkshire.
reg.dist. huddersfield.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 17:15 GMT (UK)
birth index
name. louisa fearnley.
y.o.r. 1857.
qtr. jan/feb/mar.
dist. huddersfield.
county. yorkshire-west riding,west yorkshire.
vol. 9a.
page. 289.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 17:20 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10/4362/16/25.
daniel fearnley age 63. b. mirfield. occ. gamekeeper. head.
mary ann fearnley age 6. b. heckmondwike. wife.
louisa fearnley age 14. b. kirkheaton. occ. cotton winder. grand-daughter.
living at elm common,kirkheaton,yorkshire.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 17:29 GMT (UK)
1881
RG11/4379/31/20.
james sykes age 56. b. slaithewaite,yorkshire. occ. engine tenter at cotton factory. head.
mary sykes age 56. b. kirkheaton. occ. card room hand. wife.
hannah sykes age 29. b. huddersfield. occ. cotton operative. daughter.
louisa fearnley age 24. b. kirkheaton. occ. cotton operative. lodger.
living at ; colne bridge,kirkheaton,yorkshire.

unfortunately on none of the censuses is she with her parents
i will have a look on the 1851 census for daniel-mary fearnley to see if there is a son with them who could possibly be her father.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: wozzle on Monday 25 February 08 17:40 GMT (UK)
1851
HO107/2294/583/37.
daniel fearnley age 45. b. mirfield. occ. labourer.head.
marian age 41. b. heckmondwike. wife.
charles age 17. b. kirkheaton. occ. coal miner.son.
sarah age 13. b. ditto. occ. doubler. daughter.
betsey age 6. b. ditto. daughter.
hannah age 4. b. mirfield. daughter.
samuel fearnley age 66. b. mirfield. occ. labourer. lodger.
living at helm common,kirkheaton,yorkshire.

so charles is a possible father of louisa.
but you would really need louisa's marr cert to know for sure.
Title: Re: John Bruce 1844 Glasgow
Post by: percy15 on Tuesday 26 February 08 00:02 GMT (UK)
Well thanks again Mick, youdid very wel and I appreciate your efforts.
Best Regards Percy.