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Title: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Friday 22 February 08 23:39 GMT (UK)
is there anyone that has records of st philip and Jacob parish I looking for the walker family that were in 1841 in brick street+in 1861 lamb st[court]i like to find them in the 1851 census for the same area or details of them in the parish records.Elizabeth walker [wife [1805/7]Harriet walker [daughter [1831]Mary Ann walker[daughter [1838/40]eliza walker daughter [1832] thomas walker [son [1833/34]James walker[son 1844/45] the husband is never in the house at the time of the census he is Edward walker [1805/07] i found him lodging in other addresses.i like to find a marriage [all] in st philip and Jacob parish.i be most grateful if maybe someone could help,or give me a link where i could purchase the details thanks Lorraine
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: suzard on Saturday 23 February 08 00:44 GMT (UK)
1841 census states none of them were born in county
HO107 378 34 15

???????

Suz
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: escargot on Saturday 23 February 08 12:56 GMT (UK)
Hello Lorraine,

I found the following in SS Philip & Jacob for 1813-1837 Baptisms

John  s. of Edward and Elizabeth Walker  16 Nov 1828

Samuel s. Edward and Elizabeth Walker 13 Nov 1836 aged 3 wks.

I don't have marriages I'm afraid.  If you google Bristol and Avon FHS they have details of records.

Regards

Escargot
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: escargot on Saturday 23 February 08 13:37 GMT (UK)
Me again!

I found these on the IGI

Mary Ann Walker chr. 29 July 1838 Bristol, Gloucester

Eliza Walker chr. 16 Aug 1840 SS Philip & Jacob Bristol

Mary Walker chr. 4 Sep 1842 SS Philip & Jacob Bristol

all to Edward and Elizabeth Walker

This might be Edward

Edward Walker chr. 14 Sep 1778 Tewkesbury Gloucester

also to an Edward and Elizabeth

There are Walkers in Pebworth Gloucester too.

(I found all these by putting Edward Walker and Elizabeth as mother and father and looking for children born to same)

Regards Escargot

Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: escargot on Saturday 23 February 08 13:41 GMT (UK)
Sorry, thinking about it, that might be too early for Edward - might be his father?  Sorry, not very good with the geography of Gloucestershire either, might be miles from Bristol.

Escargot
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Saturday 23 February 08 15:42 GMT (UK)
Escargot,thank you very very much i really grateful to you for you time to help out.the names and ages are good at the time of christenings as its states, so I'm think yes it the family, I just got to find a 1851 census now and that make my day,thank you again Lorraine
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: escargot on Saturday 23 February 08 17:52 GMT (UK)
Dear Lorraine,

I am glad I was able to help you.  I can look in the 1851 for you if you tell me how  they are listed in 1861 e.g. were they all together or were some of the children working elsewhere.  What occupations if any.  You mention that Edward is always somewhere else - is he the Redruth one?

Escargot
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Saturday 23 February 08 22:25 GMT (UK)
Escargot,thank you once again,someone sent me 1861 but no real info on it,as most of the older children have left home, other than this elizabeth walker age 54, abt 1807, wife, female, born bristol,civil parish bristol st philip and st jacob,ecclesiatical parish st jude,county gloucester england,street address lamb st[court]reg district clifton,sub district st philip and jacob,ED institution or vessel 3,household number 161,household member mary walker age 20,i found the father [edward]in [1861 census]redruth cornwall as a boarder abt 1806 address bullers row redruth,pedlar,i also found him in the 1851 census in fore st redruth as a lodger pedlar,i do  believe that there was another child that could be with elizabeth in bristol by 1851 census but this might not be right he could be james walker c1845/6 born bristol,in the 1841 census the children are harriet walker age 10,eliza walker age 8 mary ann walker age 3 thomas walker age 7,thank you for you time to help lorraine
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: escargot on Sunday 24 February 08 11:05 GMT (UK)
Morning Lorraine,

I've been puzzling over your family, but I haven't been able to find much. 

There is

Mary Ann 10 yrs, house servant at 7 Butchers Row, parish P&J but b. St.James

Thomas 17 yrs, T----man? couldn't make out this, unmarried, Head, b. Bristol at Braggs Lane parish P&J.

I couldn't find Elizabeth, Harriet, Eliza or James. 

All I can suggest is to look at FreeBMD and see if you can find marriages for Harriet and Eliza.  I did try to vary the name Walker by using wild cards but nothing seemed to match.  That is not to say that they are not on there somewhere!  There are much more experienced census searchers on Rootschat that might be able to suggest something else.

Don't give up though.  I have been in this situation myself, and someone came to my rescue and I was able to move back a little further, but I am still searching!

Regards Escargot
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Sunday 24 February 08 16:22 GMT (UK)
Escargot,thank you very much for taking time out to look for this family,I'm really grateful,i'll  just keep at it like you said,thanks again Lorraine :)
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: Canuc on Sunday 24 February 08 17:20 GMT (UK)
I posted some information about SS Philip and Jacob on another post (Packhorse Cottages), but I can't cut and paste what I wrote there and I don't see how I can give you the link.

Go to search rootschat above, put Philip and Jacob in the search and Canuc as author an it will come up (5th of September I posted).

Basically, Tewksbury is a fair way north of Bristol. Bristol was the south end of Gloucestershire, Tewksbury is at its northern extremity. If the Tewksbury entry is yours how did he end up in Bristol, Gloucester was a big city by comparison to T'bury what took him further south to Bristol?

Happy hunting
Canuc

Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Sunday 24 February 08 18:17 GMT (UK)
Canuc, thank you for the link i have printed it off so i can look back at this info.also i don't know if Tewksbury entry anything to do with mine yet,as my Edward Walker [c1805]states he from Bristol Gloucester england in the census he been in,i wanted to find the 1851 census hoping his family would still be in st Philip and Jacob parish and hoping they would give me more info there,but up to this minute i not had much luck in locating the 1851 but thank you for your link it was very kind of you to help Lorraine
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: allibaker on Friday 11 July 08 19:48 BST (UK)
thomas is with his father in redruth in 1851
regards
alli
Title: Re: St philip and jacob parish gloucestershire 1851
Post by: raine on Friday 11 July 08 22:09 BST (UK)
thomas is with his father in redruth in 1851
regards
alli

allibaker thank you for this info.I have already found the the men in redruth,its the mother and the other children i wanted to find in 1851 and in the St Philip and jacob parish i thinking but up to now no one seems to have the 1851 census of this parish,thank you anyway for keeping your eyes out for them its greatly appreicated