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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Surrey Lookup Requests => Surrey => England => Surrey Completed Look up Requests => Topic started by: robbyd on Sunday 09 January 05 19:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi l know this is a long shot but could someone kindly look up the following on either 91 or 01 census?
Emily PENFOLD born c1890 Croydon area
Frederick FARROW born c1888 croydon area
Any help at all would be very much appreciated.
Kind Regards
Robert
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As found on 1891 census living 78 Wilford Rd Croydon Surrey
Penfold, Emily 6 born Croydon, Surrey daughter
Penfold, Jeanetta 2/12 born Croydon, Surrey daughter
Penfold, Mary A 28 wife born Croydon, Surrey
Penfold William 3 born Croydon Surrey son
rg 12/592 vessel 37 folio 20 p40
Hope this is of help and I will check out 1901 for you .
Scatty
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Hi Scatty
Thanks so much for your help it really is appreciated.
Regards
Robert
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Hi Robert
Were your PENFOLDs originally Gypsies/travellers? I know quite a few of them settled in the Croydon area.
If so, and you get back to any connection in Kent, then I may have something in my notes somewhere.
Casalguidi
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Hi, Yes there is a big traveller/gypsy connection, Emily Penfold married frederick FARROW sometime in the early 1900`s they had daughter`s Helena born 1919 in Croydon, and Rose. Helena married Victory CURTIS in c1940 in Croydon.
Any further info would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Robert
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Hi Robert
Once you can get back into the 1800s I would hope that I would be able to find something in my notes. I know that there were loads of PENFOLDs in Croydon, a lot in Hampshire and some down in Devon. I only really collect info on those in Kent but ancestry for some of those in Surrey leads back to Kent at some stage.
There's lots of Croydon refs on the passing through site:
http://www.passing-through.co.uk/index.htm
Perhaps you could get Emily's marriage certificate to establish her age, father's name etc. and then post again. I shall be offlne for a while from tomorrow but hope to be back before too long.
Casalguid
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Hi casalgaid, Thanks for getting back to me, l`ll do what you suggest.
This is what l know Emily Penfold`s parents were Robert born c1863 and mary ann nee Saunders born c1865 Maidstone, Kent.
Emily had several siblings
William born c1888 Maidstone
John born c1895 Croydon
Rose Born c1898 Croydon
James born c1900 Croydon
Hope that helps
Regards
Robert
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1871
19 Pawsons Rd, Croydon
John PENFOLD head mar 34 hawker b.Wandsworth
Frainces (Trainetti/Finetti) wife 30 hawker b.Reading Berks
Robert son 11 b.Wandsworth
William son 4 b.Wandsworth
Joseph son 2 b.Wandsworth
Henry son 2m b.Croydon
RG10/846 folio 53 page 30
1881
4 Holly Cottages, Pawsons Rd, Croydon
Robert PENFOLD head mar 21 pedlar b.Plaxtol, Kent
Mary A wife 19 pedlar b.Maidstone, kent
RG11/0817 folio 45 page 12
I'll have to look for anything else ............ will need to get back to you.
Casalguidi
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Hi Casalguid
Thanks so much for your help, l can`t thank you enough.
Warmest Regards
Robert
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Hi Robert
You'll need to get a few certificates (if you haven't already) to claim them ie. Emily's marriage etc. ............... let me know how you get on.
Best wishes
Casalguidi
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Hi Casalguid,
Thanks once again, l am awaiting several certs and l`ll post again when l receive them.
Many Thanks for your continued support it really is appreciated.
Robert
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Hi
Robert Penfolds wife was Mary Ann Saunders
His father was John Penfold 1837 and mother Trancett Lane 1841.
Trancetts parents were William Lane 1811 and Rebecca
William was great great great grandfather
William Lane married again at the age of 82 to my great great grandmother on another thread Mary Ann Gardiner/Warne in 1893.
Mary Ann Warnes/Gardiner father was Samuel and brother Noah
Hope this helps, I have lots of information if you would like more
Chellin2
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Hi Chellin2
Thanks so much for all the info, it really is most kind of you.
I would be thrilled with any further info on this family.
Best wishes
Robert
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Hi Robert
What information would you like to know for as i said I have loads.
Would you like the line down from William Lane and all his children and census records or would you like to know more about Traincett and her family and offsprings.
Let me know
Chellin2
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Hi Chellin2
Thanks again, l would be most interested in any info on John & Traincett and there offspring.
Kind regards
Robert
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Information on Trancett Lane
Had a sister Phoebe Lane born 1840
Born 1841 Reading Bershire
Married John Penfold 1865
Residence 1871
RG10 Piece 846 Folio 53 Page 30
Children
Robert 1860
John 1865
William 1867
Joseph 1869
Henry 1872
Frederick 1873
In 1878 she married Noah Warne
1881 Census
RG11 Piece 811 Folio 30 Page 53
1891 Census
RG12 Piece 589 Folio 52 Page 37
John Penfold was born in 1837 in Wandsworth Surrey and the rest of the information is as above
Noah Warne was born in Bungy Suffolk 1836 and died in Croydon Surrey in 1913
He was first married to Mary Ann Best in 1863 and had one son Ed
1871 Census
RG10 Piece 796 Folio 23 Page 37
He then married Trencett
I dont know John Penfolds parent but Noah Warnes was Samuel Warne born abt 1800
Trancetts Father William Lane born 1816 in Kent
Married Mary Ann Warne on the 22nd May 1893
Croydon Surrey 2a 470
Lived at Fieldgate Mitcham Surrey.
Mary Ann Warne was born in Seal in Kent in 1827
Died in 1909 in Croydon in Surrey
I have all the census for her if you want them
Hope this helps
Chellin2
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1901 Census for Robert Penfold
RG13 Piece 643 Folio 176 Page 33
Emily aged 15
James 5 months
John 6
Mary Ann 36
Robert 38
Rose 3
William 13
Living at 19 Wilford Road Croydon
Robert married Mary Ann Saunders on the 10th May 1881 at St Saviours Croydon
Chellin2
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I am trying to connect with Rob Salisbury, who I think is descended from Thomas Salisbury.
My Sister-in-Law Joan Winnifred (Grindley) Garrett has been searching for her Aunt Eva Elizabeth (Hoare) Salisbury who married Walter Cyril Salisbury in 1929, for many years.
I think that Eva died in 2000 in Gloucester, but I am wondering if she had any children so that Joan may contact her unknown Cousins.
Eva's 2 sisters came to Canada: Winnifred (Hoare) Grindley & ?
Would Rob please contact me to let me know if he has any information on Eva's children, if she had any.
Your help would be most appreciated.
Thank you,
John Richard Garrett
Ontario, Canada
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Hello are you still looking up Caleb curtis/greenslade,he was my fathers grandad they come from croyden and he will be happy to help you
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Information on Trancett Lane
Had a sister Phoebe Lane born 1840
Born 1841 Reading Bershire
Married John Penfold 1865
Residence 1871
RG10 Piece 846 Folio 53 Page 30
Children
Robert 1860
John 1865
William 1867
Joseph 1869
Henry 1872
Frederick 1873
In 1878 she married Noah Warne
1881 Census
RG11 Piece 811 Folio 30 Page 53
1891 Census
RG12 Piece 589 Folio 52 Page 37
John Penfold was born in 1837 in Wandsworth Surrey and the rest of the information is as above
Noah Warne was born in Bungy Suffolk 1836 and died in Croydon Surrey in 1913
He was first married to Mary Ann Best in 1863 and had one son Ed
1871 Census
RG10 Piece 796 Folio 23 Page 37
He then married Trencett
I dont know John Penfolds parent but Noah Warnes was Samuel Warne born abt 1800
Trancetts Father William Lane born 1816 in Kent
Married Mary Ann Warne on the 22nd May 1893
Croydon Surrey 2a 470
Lived at Fieldgate Mitcham Surrey.
Mary Ann Warne was born in Seal in Kent in 1827
Died in 1909 in Croydon in Surrey
I have all the census for her if you want them
Hope this helps
Chellin2
Information on Trancett Lane
Had a sister Phoebe Lane born 1840
Born 1841 Reading Bershire
Married John Penfold 1865
Residence 1871
RG10 Piece 846 Folio 53 Page 30
Children
Robert 1860
John 1865
William 1867
Joseph 1869
Henry 1872
Frederick 1873
In 1878 she married Noah Warne
1881 Census
RG11 Piece 811 Folio 30 Page 53
1891 Census
RG12 Piece 589 Folio 52 Page 37
John Penfold was born in 1837 in Wandsworth Surrey and the rest of the information is as above
Noah Warne was born in Bungy Suffolk 1836 and died in Croydon Surrey in 1913
He was first married to Mary Ann Best in 1863 and had one son Ed
1871 Census
RG10 Piece 796 Folio 23 Page 37
He then married Trencett
I dont know John Penfolds parent but Noah Warnes was Samuel Warne born abt 1800
Trancetts Father William Lane born 1816 in Kent
Married Mary Ann Warne on the 22nd May 1893
Croydon Surrey 2a 470
Lived at Fieldgate Mitcham Surrey.
Mary Ann Warne was born in Seal in Kent in 1827
Died in 1909 in Croydon in Surrey
I have all the census for her if you want them
Hope this helps
Chellin2
Hi … trancet lane was my gr gr grandmother she was called Trainette I think this must of been a spelling mistake ? Her son Henry was my mothers maternal grandfather
I would love any census you have available 😊
Best wishes louisa