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Title: Fife Surname connections
Post by: TunjiLees on Thursday 21 February 08 09:40 GMT (UK)
I saw somebody else do this with a mesure of success, so I decided to do the same.

These are my ancestral lines from Fife that I know of:

BETT/BEAT (1680s-1770s) - Crail, Aberdour, Dunfermline (John married Isabell Norrie 1709)
BUTTERCASE (1790s-1890s) - Kemback, Dairsie (David married Margaret Young in 1833)
CARMICHAEL (1760s-1890s) - Kirkcaldy (Thomas m. Margaret Hugh 1790)
CURRIE (1770s-1890s) - Kirkcaldy
DEMPSTER (1690s-1880s) - Abdie, Auchtermuchty, Largo, Kilmany, Cupar, Kettle, Flisk (George m. Mary Kirkaldy 1852)
DON (1850-1930s) - Newburgh, Cults, Newport
HOG(G)AN (1690s-1750s) Auchterderren, Auchtertool, Aberdour
HUNTER (1800s-1900s) - Kirkcaldy, Abbotshall (Robert Hunter m. Margaret Kidd of Ireland 1826)
KEITH (1820s-1910s) - Leuchars, Forgan, Wormit, Newport
KE/INNEL (1730s-1820s) - Aberdour
KNOX/KNOCKS (1670s-1780s) - Beath, Auchtertool, Aberdour (William m. Katharine Robertson 1705. James m. Christian Gibb 1748)
LEES (1870s+) - Dysart, Kirkcaldy, Abbotshall
MCEWAN (1790s-1870s) - Dysart
MCLEOD (1800s-1850s) - Kirkcaldy, Abbotshall
MORRIS/CE/SON - (1750s-1870s) - Aberdour, Dunfermline
RAE Mary (1800s-1850s) - Kirkcaldy (dau. of Henry Rae/Margaret Nicol)
SCOT(T) (1680s-1860) - Leuchars
SUTHERLAND (1790s-1860s) - Abbotshall
TAYLOR (1820s-1870s) - Kemback, Leuchars, Ceres (James m. Agnes Gold 1844)
WRIGHT (1790s-1840s) - Dysart


If you think you have connections to these lines or any useful information at all then please reply, thank you.

Kind Regards
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Tuesday 17 February 09 01:07 GMT (UK)
Hello,

Would like to compare notes on your LEES from Fife.

Best Regards,
Jamie Lees

CANADA
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: TunjiLees on Tuesday 17 February 09 06:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,

We can certainly compare notes.

I'm researching
William Lees (1884-1922) m. Helen Currie
son of
Thomas Lees (c1853- 1902) m. Christina McEwan
son of
Oliver Lees m. Isabella Waldie

Whom are you researching with the LEES surname?

Cheers

-Tunji
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Wednesday 18 February 09 02:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Tunji,

The family I am researching is David LEES and Mary HAY who married in Edinburgh 1768. They had 10 children....

Janet LEES b. 1769 Bo'ness, Lanark d. 1858

James LEES b. 1771 Bo'ness, Lanark d. 1858 Coatdyke, Lanark married Katherine WOOD.

George LEES b. 1775 Bo'ness, Lanark

David LEES b. 1777 Bo'ness, Lanark married Jane COWAN

Richard LEES b. 1779 Dunfermline, Fife

Margaret LEES b. 1781 Dunfermline, Fife

Robert LEES b. 1784 Dunfermline, Fife d. 1855 Braehead married Margaret COWAN

Mary LEES b. 1785 Dunfermline, Fife

Andrew LEES B. 1788 Dunfermline, Fife Possibly married Elizabeth COLMAN (not yet confirmed).

Mary LEES b. 1790 Dunfermline, Fife

Looking forward to your reply.
Jamie Lees
Canada
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: TunjiLees on Monday 09 March 09 00:55 GMT (UK)
Jamie,

Sorry but I doubt there are any connections between our Lees families. Mine only moved to Fife in the 1870s before which they lived in Midlothian.

Cheers

-Tunji
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Monday 09 March 09 23:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks Tunji

Jamie Lees
CANADA
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: ostler on Wednesday 11 March 09 11:30 GMT (UK)
BETT/BEAT (1680s-1770s) - Crail, Aberdour, Dunfermline (John married Isabell Norrie 1709)
I have a Margaret Beat(t) or Bett who married William Malcolm, 25 May 1798 in Abbotshall. No more information than that, unfortunately.

Sorry but I doubt there are any connections between our Lees families. Mine only moved to Fife in the 1870s before which they lived in Midlothian.
I have Lees from East/Midlothian as well. John Lees married Elizabeth White 20 Sep 1794 in Whittinghame, had at least five children:

Elizabeth b1796
Archibald b c1797
Isabel b1799
Agnes b1801
Jane Hastie b1806

Archibald Lees married Janet Dudgeon 17 Mar 1827 in Gladsmuir, and Margaret Ritchie in Prestonpans 16 May 1856. They had at least ten children:

John, Adam, Peter, Elizabeth, John, Euphemia, Margaret, Archibald, James and Agnes Dudgeon.

Euphemia Lees married Andrew Sanderson 18 Jun 1862 in Edinburgh Parish. They were my great(x3) grandparents.
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Friday 13 March 09 04:33 GMT (UK)
Interesting. I have an Elizabeth WHITE who married a David LEES b. 1830. Date and location of marriage unknown at the moment.

He was son of Robert LEES and Margaret COWAN. Robert was born in Dunfermline Fife in 1784.

Robert's parents were David LEES and Marion/Mary HAY, who had 10 children including Robert. The majority born in Dunfermline, Fife.

Do you know who your John LEES' m. 1794 parents were? Where is Whittinghame I am not familiar with it.

Jamie Lees
CANADA
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: JAP on Friday 13 March 09 05:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Jamie,

A Google for:
GENUKI + whittinghame
finds
http://www.clerkington.plus.com/GENUKI/ELN/Whittinghame/index.html

This has a brief and a lengthy description of the parish (and the village), a map of where the parish is within East Lothian/Haddingtonshire, and a link to a modern day map.

Regards,

JAP
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Friday 13 March 09 06:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks. Difficult to get my head around the areas... as they seem so close to other areas. Anywhoo, close to Dunbar?

Jamie
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: JAP on Friday 13 March 09 07:08 GMT (UK)
Again, Google is your friend.  :)

From the previous search, I find that East Linton is probably the nearest present day village/town to where Whittinghame village was (according to GENUKI).  Looking on a modern day map site (e.g. streetmap uk, multimap) for Dunbar, I see that Dunbar is about 10km ENE of East Linton.

And zooming out on the map, I see that Dunbar is some 50km or so from Dunfermline, Fife (as the crow flies westwards from Dunbar across the Firth of Forth).

JAP
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Friday 13 March 09 12:12 GMT (UK)
Again, I understand maps and Google. Nice to discuss with someone who is from there to get an idea of distance from their perspective. When you live in a country where it takes a week or more to drive from one end to another, difficult to wrap your head around short distances.

Thanks for you help.

Jamie Lees
CANADA
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: JAP on Friday 13 March 09 12:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Jamie,

Hate to tell you but I am Australian.  All my ancestors arrived here between (as far as I know) 1841 and ca 1890.

Depending on how much of a lead foot one is, it takes a pretty long time to drive from one side of Aus to the other. ;D  Especially observing present day speed limits.  >:(

Best of luck with the genealogy.

Regards,

JAP
PS: Have to admit that I've driven in many countries including Scotland and Canada.  :D
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: jamielees on Monday 16 March 09 03:38 GMT (UK)
Well Jap didn't mean to discuss with you necessarily, thought someone else might lead the conversation, someone who has done the driving in Scotland.

Anywhoooo

Jamie
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: JAP on Monday 16 March 09 05:06 GMT (UK)
 ???

Incidentally, re your post at reply #3.

My understanding is that Bo'ness was in the county of Linlithgow/West Lothian.

I wish you well in your future research,

JAP
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: twiggypig on Sunday 05 April 09 09:57 BST (UK)
BETT/BEAT (1680s-1770s) - Crail, Aberdour, Dunfermline (John married Isabell Norrie 1709)

The furthest back I have been able to track so far is that I have a John Beat (b.1806) from Kingsbarns who later married a Janet Thomson in 1827.

Regards
Cheryl
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: AVWilson on Monday 14 June 10 06:30 BST (UK)
Have connection to James Lees from Bo'Ness- James daughter, Mary married to a Simpson in Coatdyke. One of their son's David Lees Simpson migrated to Dunedin, New Zealand in 1862, married with eleven children. Moved to Sydney and died in 1888. David with his brother, Alexander were noted Civil Engineers. David is my great grand father. Cheers-Vicki
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 18 June 10 22:30 BST (UK)
Sutherlands of Fife are in my family 

Robert shoemaker 1855

xin
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: ostler on Friday 18 June 10 23:02 BST (UK)
Where in Fife were your Sutherlands, xin?
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 18 June 10 23:06 BST (UK)
Well  mostly Dunfermline,  but moved around a little  Glasgow/Edinburgh/
I have Robert 1832 Glasgow - his son Robert born Kirkaldy - His son John born dundee - but the other children of that marriage were born Kirkaldy/Dunfermline.


xin
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: ostler on Friday 18 June 10 23:15 BST (UK)
Oh, not likely to be any relation to my lot then... unless you can connect them to Caithness?
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Finley 1 on Friday 18 June 10 23:38 BST (UK)
Sorry no.  Well not as yet.. You just never know..

 ;D

xin
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: bridgewaterwolfie on Saturday 09 April 11 22:08 BST (UK)
hi i believe i have a connection

that ties in with you and anglebaby69nz

its possible this is how it goes

william taylor b 1775 kirkcaldy fife md 3feb 1798 - isabel allan

children.
1john 11 feb 1799
2jean 5 sep 1801
joseph 7 jun 1803
euphans 1 jun 1806
william 11 may 1809
allan 28 jun 1811
elizabeth 13 apr 1815(my connection-md george birrell)
walter 1818
james  1821(your connectio-md agnes gold)

john taylor b 1784 ceres fife md 22 nov mary fyfe


obviously there is more than just william and john-as naming patterns go williams john
was named after his brother and john's was named ater the father david taylor/elizabeth smart

please pass this on-and keep me in the loop as well

regards
adrian
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Canada03 on Sunday 10 April 11 19:43 BST (UK)
Adrian - I have a John Taylor marrying a Helen Fife/Fyfe in 1784.  Their daughter is Mary, christened 1785 Dysart.  Mary went on to marry Lawrence Lennie in 1807 (Edinburgh) and are my 3xg grandparents.

I know Taylor is a common name (coincidentally my surname today) but thought I would throw it out there anyway.

Sharon
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: peterg42 on Tuesday 26 April 11 23:10 BST (UK)
I have in my tree  a Christen Kinnell born Kinghorn, Fife 1708 to James Kinnell and Elsbeth Beatsone. She was mt great grandmother x5.
In 1730 she married James Gray and their son Robert was born in Kinghorn in 1737.
Robert married Kathrine Moffat and their son David was born in 1769. He married Elizabeth Darney and they had a son Robert born 1797.
Robert's second marriage was to Henrietta Paterson of Aberdour in 1841 in Burntisland. My great grandmother Maggie was the last of their children born in Burntisland in 1851.
She died in Hereford England in 1932.


Hope this is of some interest.
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Sheena-Ann Brown on Thursday 03 December 15 15:22 GMT (UK)
We have ROBERT HUNTER and MARGARET KIDD - MARRIED 20 SEP 1829 AT ABBOTSHALL, KIRKCALDY, FIFE. THEY ARE MY THIRD G.GRANDPARENTS.

Sheena-Ann Brown
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Sheena-Ann Brown on Thursday 03 December 15 15:25 GMT (UK)
i currently live just around the corner from Abbotshall in Kirkcaldy (less than 100 yrds away from the area!)
I also do family history and have several family trees back to 1500's - unfortunately haven;t worked on this line but will now!
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Finley 1 on Thursday 03 December 15 18:00 GMT (UK)
hello,

I have Kidds and Hunters... but haven't worked them all yet.  maybe will have time one day :)

xin
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: firstgenpiper on Tuesday 06 July 21 05:06 BST (UK)
I hope there are people who are reading this forum. My parents were James and Martha Currie (nee McDonagh) who emigrated to the US in 1949. They and the rest of my family lived in Methil and Buckhaven. I'm trying without the aid of documents to go back a few more generations. To the best of my knowledge, my father's parents were Patrick(?) and Elizabeth (Forbes) and my mother's parents were Michael McDonagh and Mary (Anderson?). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Fife Surname connections
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 06 July 21 13:52 BST (UK)
I'm trying without the aid of documents to go back a few more generations.
You should be able to find all the documents you need at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

James Currie and Martha McDonach were married in Buckhaven in 1937. You can download a copy of the marriage certificate, which will tell you their ages when they married and the full names of their parents including their mothers' maiden surnames.

Then you can work back from there.