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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: lochlass on Thursday 21 February 08 04:45 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for possible birth date and parentage of Thomas Falconer who was born c. 1757 & married Helen Simpson. They had a daughter Grizel who went on to marry Donald (Daniel) McLeish. I'm hoping someone out there has been researching the same line. Any help appreciated. Thank you.
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Where about in Perth is Helen Simpson from?
I also have Simpsons in Perthshire but I only managed to trace back as far as the 1800s.
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According to what I've got, Helen was born in Edinburgh, Midlothian, on 21 Sep 1767. Her parents were Richard Simpson & Ann Deans.
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There are a couple of baptisms on Scotlands people, 1/1/1757 Kirkmichael, Perth, parents James Falconer & Melvil the second one is 15/1/1758 , Leith South, Edinburgh Midlothian parents James Falconer & Elizabeth Lightbody. Checked between 1752 and 1762, if you are sure it's in Perthshire then the first one looks pretty good.
All the best
Shirl
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Forgot to mention Grizel's baptism record shows:
12 Jan 1792 Thomas Falconer ,Smith, and Helen Simson had a daughter born and baptised 12th her name Grizel
Smith I assume means blacksmith or similar
Shirl
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I too am interested in Thomas Falconer and Helen Simpson, their ancestors, and their descendants. I lean toward James Falconer and Melvil Millar as the parents of Thomas (m. Aug. 25, 1747), and James Simpson and Grissel Duncan as the parents of Helen Simpson.
Thomas and Helen had the following children as far as I know: Grizel (b. 1792), George (b. 1793), Thomas (b. 1794), William (b. 1796), John (b. 1798), Duncan (b. 1801), Christian (b. 1804), George Baird (b. 1806), Isabel (b. 1807).
Any more information or corrections on any of these people will be much appreciated.
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hi Lochlass
I have Grizel falconer and Donald (Daniel) McLeish in my family tree way way back Donald (daniel) is 1 st cousin 5 times removed his father William is my 4th great grand uncle.
all linked back via a headstone in Little dunkeld, where grizel is buried in the memorial inscriptions in little dunkeld church handbook headstone no 486 east face 1788 here lyes in hope of a glorious resurrection the bones and ashes of Will(m) Mcleish, late tennant in Meikle Trochry in Strathbrand, who diee in 1740 aged 58 years, also his spouse Margret McFarland who died in 1771 aged 62years, their son John McLeish in Knowhead died in 1806 aged 80 and his wife Kathrine Young died in 1790 aged 60 years, Daniel McLeish died 18th Feb 1879 aged 96, Grizel Falconer, his wife, died 14th may 1867 aged 76years.
i have attached a photo of this head stone Grizel name is near the bottom
i hope this helps fred
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Since my last reply in 2008 about Thomas Falconer, I've found out a bit more about him and his wife Helen Simpson, but his parents, birthdate and death info are still speculative.
Thomas eloped with Helen from Edinburgh to Dunkeld, Perthshire, where they married. He was a gunsmith, as was their son Duncan. He became a burgess and guild brother in Edinburgh in 1804, by right of his wife's father, who was Richard Simpson, a grocer.
Among possible parents for Thomas, besides those mentioned in previous posts, are George Falconer and Janet Thompson, of St. Cuthbert's Parish in Edinburgh (Thomas named his first-born son George). George and Janet's son Thomas was born in St. Cuthbert's in 1769. There are other candidates, such as a Thomas born in East Lothian.
My current knowledge of Thomas and Helen and their descendants, including Grizel and Donald McLeish, is at http://dunkeldfalconer.tribalpages.com.
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Re John McLeish son of John (b. 1726) and Kathrine Young. in my tree i have him born in 1767 between Katrin and Jean.
he Married Elspeth Elizabeth McLeish. this is the side that eventually came to NSW in the 1877 by way of John's grandson Daniel.
John's Brother Donald (Daniel) McLeish husband of Grizel Falconer line came to Victoria, Australia around 1848/49 many of Donald and Grizel's 11 children died in victoria.
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Hi! Re parentage of Thomas Falconer, husband of Helen Simpson. My line comes from their Grizel. Through DNA, I've discovered Thomas was married previously to Margaret Barty in 1780. They had at least 2 children, Elizabeth and Alexander. This would discount 1769 as dob.
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For those interested: Donald aka Daniel 1784-1879, spouse of Grizel aka Grace Falconer 1792-1867 was the son of William and Margaret Stewart, according to his death certificate on ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk