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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: Carol Mack on Tuesday 19 February 08 17:43 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone tell me what a Border Riever was? I suspect they were raiders/rustlers but can anyone confirm this? I have a feeling this is what my McVitty ancestors did!!!!!!!!
Regards, Carol
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www.reivers.com
if you click on the link it might be of interest.
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What a great link, many thanks! My lot are there alright - McVitty is supposed to be a derivitave of Beattie and the Beatties are there. It would also make sense that the McVittys turn up in Ireland in the 1600's at the plantation of Ulster - perhaps they fled to escape justice!!!!
Carol.
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Some more info...they were a naughty lot ;D
http://www.sorbie.net/border_reivers.htm
http://www.borderreivers.co.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Reivers
mab
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Hi, and welcome to the reivers - my mother is very proud of her dasterdly lot!! the Erskines. :o
She has a video and books and i saw a review recently for a new book. i will get the details for you - may be later this week when I see mum.
Diddy
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I can't remember was site it was on but they are responsible for a lot of words that entered the language ...such as blackmail....loverly lot....
Mine are Tates/Taits with a few Bells and Carruthers thrown in for heck of it :P
mab
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just googled border reivers video and come up with lots of lovely videos and books - try it. :)
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Cool ;D
Thanks....
mab
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Thank you all very much for all that - I'm well in now, just noticed Kilpatricks and Thompsons!! Must try to get some books,
Carol
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Hiya,
The threads above plus more can be found here...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,202390.0.html
Happy rustling!
Pam
:)
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Great Links....
I ran across this term(rievers) a day or so ago and has been some good reads....I live in the US and not up on the different historical movements throughout the UK....But web surfin is helping that..
Another good read for me was how the Vikings came to play and merge througout Scotland.......Its sorta helped me picture what was going on in the continent while trying to find these family bits of info..A must read for us over the pond folks..
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I have just ordered this book - really good review in 'Your Family tree' mag issue 60.:
Exploring Border Reivers History. by philip nixon
Breedon Books £16-99.
Can also see review at
www.breedonbooks.co.uk :D
Diddy
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Hi Everyone,
Many thanks for all your information and the chat. Might ask for a book or two for my birthday!!!
Cheers,
Carol.
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What a great link, many thanks! My lot are there alright - McVitty is supposed to be a derivitave of Beattie and the Beatties are there. It would also make sense that the McVittys turn up in Ireland in the 1600's at the plantation of Ulster - perhaps they fled to escape justice!!!!
Carol.
Hi Carol,
In 1606 King James resorted to the transportation of many border families to military service in Ireland. www.northeasthistory.co.uk/the_north_east/history/border/6.html
Christopher
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Hey all.
Mcvitty'/McVitties/Mavity's aren't connected genetically with the Beatties.
I did a deep clad DNA test and we aren't anywhere near them. We do however match close with other Reiver families, Glendenning, Elliot, Irvine. These folks were mostly in the Dumfriesshire area.
At some point they went to Ireland. There are Cavan muster rolls for 1630 showing Mawities also.
I'm working with some McVity folks and we are REAL close DNA wise, with both their McVity and my Mavity being in the same time fram but one state apart in the mid 1700's US.
Brian Mavity
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My Kerr's were in the thick of it there too, Wardens of the Middle Marches. The best book I have read
is "Steel Bonnets" by George McDonald Fraser. At the moment it is available at Amazon £8.53 and free post
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steel-Bonnets-Anglo-Scottish-Border-Reivers/dp/0002727463
James.